Hey guys, I heard from a 'source'...

[Marooned Messiah]

well several actually that you can get a some sort of better tone with a higher output p'up in the neck, is that true?
And the pickups in question would be the Warpigs, unless someone else can suggest a better neck (or even bridge pickup) to replace one of them.

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

I wouldn't say better, just different. It all depends on the type of music you play and what you want from the pickup and of course the person playing it! Low output pickups will always have a cleaner more open tone with less compression. A miracle man with an alnico V mag (DC17.6K) and a Nailbomb neck (DC10.2K) are as high as we go with neck pickups.

[Marooned Messiah]

I wouldn't say better, just different. It all depends on the type of music you play and what you want from the pickup and of course the person playing it! Low output pickups will always have a cleaner more open tone with less compression. A miracle man with an alnico V mag (DC17.6K) and a Nailbomb neck (DC10.2K) are as high as we go with neck pickups.

Well how high an output does the Warpig neck have?

[Marooned Messiah]

PS - what I meant to say was a higher output p'up in the neck than the bridge.

[TwilightOdyssey]

PS - what I meant to say was a higher output p'up in the neck than the bridge.

This is a technique favoured by shred guys, like Vai, Gilbert, etc.

[Marooned Messiah]

PS - what I meant to say was a higher output p'up in the neck than the bridge.

This is a technique favoured by shred guys, like Vai, Gilbert, etc.

For what purpose?

[TwilightOdyssey]

I think it has to do with the sustain you get from the extra output ... I'm not a shred guy, so I couldn't tell you. I actually prefer a lower output neck pup b/c I love that bell like tone you get.

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

the warpig neck has a DC of 18K

[FELINEGUITARS]

It is not unlike the Zakk Wylde  set with the EMG 81 & 85
The 85 is a fuller and some might say louder pickup than the 81 and in the neck position it sees a lot more string movement.

Think about how much more the string moves over the neck pickup compared to over the bridge pickup.
Its like a skipping rope - it moves a lot more closer to the midddle than it does at the ends. And string movement translates into millivolts in some way.

The Emg85 in the neck has what Ozzy calls the cow tone!!

[Marooned Messiah]

It is not unlike the Zakk Wylde  set with the EMG 81 & 85
The 85 is a fuller and some might say louder pickup than the 81 and in the neck position it sees a lot more string movement.

Think about how much more the string moves over the neck pickup compared to over the bridge pickup.
Its like a skipping rope - it moves a lot more closer to the midddle than it does at the ends. And string movement translates into millivolts in some way.

The Emg85 in the neck has what Ozzy calls the cow tone!!

I don't know much about EMGs, but are you saying a higher output Warpig would be better in the neck or not?

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

It is not unlike the Zakk Wylde  set with the EMG 81 & 85
The 85 is a fuller and some might say louder pickup than the 81 and in the neck position it sees a lot more string movement.

Think about how much more the string moves over the neck pickup compared to over the bridge pickup.
Its like a skipping rope - it moves a lot more closer to the midddle than it does at the ends. And string movement translates into millivolts in some way.

The Emg85 in the neck has what Ozzy calls the cow tone!!

I don't know much about EMGs, but are you saying a higher output Warpig would be better in the neck or not?

Better for what? if you want a more cutting lead tone for shredding yes, probably. Either that or a NB neck.

[Marooned Messiah]

It is not unlike the Zakk Wylde  set with the EMG 81 & 85
The 85 is a fuller and some might say louder pickup than the 81 and in the neck position it sees a lot more string movement.

Think about how much more the string moves over the neck pickup compared to over the bridge pickup.
Its like a skipping rope - it moves a lot more closer to the midddle than it does at the ends. And string movement translates into millivolts in some way.

The Emg85 in the neck has what Ozzy calls the cow tone!!

I don't know much about EMGs, but are you saying a higher output Warpig would be better in the neck or not?

Better for what? if you want a more cutting lead tone for shredding yes, probably. Either that or a NB neck.

And if I have a regular Warpig neck in then what qualities will that have over the higher output one tone-wise?
And the same question applies to the NB neck alongside a Warpig.

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

It would probably give you a more cutting lead tone, Tim will be back on saturday, he will be able to confirm.

[carlaz]

It all depends on the type of music you play and what you want from the pickup and of course the person playing it! Low output pickups will always have a cleaner more open tone with less compression. A miracle man with an alnico V mag (DC17.6K) and a Nailbomb neck (DC10.2K) are as high as we go with neck pickups.

This is all really useful info for a clueless person such as myself -- I hope this kinda thing goes into a FAQ update somewhere! :)

Definitely not being a shredder dude, and wanting to keep those "more open, less compressed" tones in the neck pup, I'm thinking I'll want to preserve in my eventual BKPs the kind of "bridge about double the neck" output balance that exists between my stock pickups now (and so put in a relatively hot bridge, too).

Now I'm really keen to see how the Abraxas, particularly the neck, turns out.  Ah, well, waiting is good for me!

[Bowks]

PS - what I meant to say was a higher output p'up in the neck than the bridge.

This is a technique favoured by shred guys, like Vai, Gilbert, etc.

Eh?!  THe Evo neck has a much lower output compared to the Evo Bridge and PG tends to run a Tone Zone in the bridge with a lower output PAF Pro in the neck position.