Les Paul with Tele Bridge...? + hamer discussion apparently

[sambo]

^another korina mention eh...
hmm


and yer Paduak is anootheeer one i've briefly looked at...

again- i dont know much about its properties though...

AGH! i need a tonewood expert here!!!

[Philly Q]

Korina is an interesting idea- hadnt thought of that...

did you mean as a top specifically or perhaps even the body itself?

I was thinking korina for the whole thing - korina and mahogany are so similar I don't think there's much point mixing them, unless it's just for looks.

[sambo]

i getcha.

hmmm NEVER considered that before, even though i've heard of korina countless times...

hmmmmmm

ok so what about this-


Korina body, with Spalted maple top?

or is that unnecessary do you think?

what really is the extent of the difference between Korina and Mahogany...?


cheers for this by the way guys,  :lol:  :D

[Philly Q]

Sam, here's a great guide to tonewoods from the Warmoth site:

http://www.warmoth.com/guitar/options/options_bodywoods.cfm

It hasn't got every wood under the sun, but it's pretty comprehensive.

(Turns out spalted maple is soft and "punky", only suitable for thin veneer decorative tops.  So its tonal effect would be minimal.)

[Kilby]

(Turns out spalted maple is soft and "punky", only suitable for thin veneer decorative tops.  So its tonal effect would be minimal.)

As far as I am aware spalted maple is maple wth a fungal infection (guess there where too many thrushes in those trees (sorry)).

As fungi breaks down wood, I suppose it makes sense that the wood would be softer.

The Ibanez Prestige S2170FW http://www.ibanez.co.jp/eg_page_2007.php?AREA_ID=3&PAGE_ID=498&COLOR=CL01 uses a figured Poplar top, but it's only for show (but they do look pretty).

Rob...

[sambo]

thanks for the link philly.

and hmmmmmmmm

if spalted maple is meant to be mainly decorative...

then an all-korina guitar might give me the general sound im after, with the ebony helping, and maybe a spalted maple top just for show...

or even something like the top on that ibanez in robs link...

that is very, verrrrry nice rob.

and yer- i heard something about it being fungi or something.

hmm

okay... second draft-


All Korina (including neck), LP, with spalted maple top.

now to get some luthiers opinions on that combo lol  :)

[noodleplugerine]

thanks for the link philly.

and hmmmmmmmm

if spalted maple is meant to be mainly decorative...

then an all-korina guitar might give me the general sound im after, with the ebony helping, and maybe a spalted maple top just for show...

or even something like the top on that ibanez in robs link...

that is very, verrrrry nice rob.

and yer- i heard something about it being fungi or something.

hmm

okay... second draft-


All Korina (including neck), LP, with spalted maple top.

now to get some luthiers opinions on that combo lol  :)

I'd go for a Padouk body with a Bubinga top actually - With a 5 piece Maple/Walnut neck thru and an Ebony Freboard.

Hopefully the brightness would be reduced by the Padouk body and it should have quite nice sustain.

(Bubinga just cos it looks pretty :> - No idea about it's tonal properties.)

[sambo]

hmm well, according to the warmoth guide (not that i want to be a warmoth fanboy)... padouk is more similar to maple...


i don't want to stray too much from the mahogany... just wanted an alteration to it...



also- my neck plans have just gone flying out the window as i've just seen this:

http://www.warmoth.com/showcase/sc_guitar_necks.cfm?type=guitar&start=1&menuItem=4&itemNumber=TN1151&subMenuItem=0&subMenuItem2=0&neckWood_filter=28,29


i would marry that thing if it was possible....

[PhilKing]

Totally off-topic, but lovely Hamer, Phil!  :D

It isn't mine!  I needed a shot to show the bridge and found it on the web.  Mine has a natural top, not the sunburst.  Other than that it is the same.  I you had an 81, did it have SD pickups?  Mine had DiMarzios, which they only used for a couple of years.

Being completely anoraky, I'm interested in the bridge - my '81 had the same type, but there was a problem with the spacing - the saddles were too wide for the bridge, so the high E saddle was pushed out to the side by the others.  I also had a Hamer Vector without that problem, but with extremely narrow spacing - it was 48mm or something stupid.  Maybe they changed suppliers a few times.

Mine has no spacing problems but they are the original saddles and I have a feeling they are closer spaced than Fenders, so if someone changed them that would push them out.

[Philly Q]

If you had an 81, did it have SD pickups?  Mine had DiMarzios, which they only used for a couple of years.

Mine had DiMarzios too, cream and zebra as in the pic - and unpotted, I think.  I still have them somewhere.  I replaced the bridge with a Kahler in 1985.  :oops:  Wish I hadn't done that...

I keep meaning to fix the guitar up, it's a total wreck at the mo.

[PhilKing]

I keep meaning to fix the guitar up, it's a total wreck at the mo.

I really like mine with the Abrazas, they sound great in it.  I was having a problem with finding a guitar where I was getting the best out of them, my old LP is very light and they weren't working in it (but the Black Dogs sound great in it), and I had tried them in my Goldtop, which is heavier, but again I knew they could sound better (having heard them at LGS in 2006).  Once I put them in the Hamer, they had exactly the sound I wanted.  I would definately fix it up if I was you, they are really nice guitars, and pretty underated too.

[noodleplugerine]

I you had an 81, did it have SD pickups?  Mine had DiMarzios, which they only used for a couple of years.

And there was me thinking that the 81 WAS a pickup  :roll:

[Mr Ed]

Speaking of Hamer guitars, the Talladega features that same bridge nowadays.

[plastercaster]

what about koa for the body?

[Mr Ed]

what about koa for the body?

Nowt wrong with it. My Tokai SG is made of Koa and some people complain of it being too "soft".

THe phrase "my arse" springs instantly to mind, some folk just like trashing cheap guitars.