Les Paul with Tele Bridge...? + hamer discussion apparently

[sambo]

lol.

yer Koa seems to be pretty suitable as well.

but from what i've been reading on here and else where, White Korina does sound like exactly what im after...

then again- that all ebony neck in my last post could mean i just go for an all mahogany body to balance it out...


(im not gonna buy that actual warmoth neck- just the idea of an all ebony one in general really appeals to me...)

does anyone know much about how all-ebony necks behave with different body woods?


cheers.

[ToneMonkey]

If it's a korina guitar you're after.  You could be a lot less better off (in all senses) by getting a Nik Huber Junior.  There's something wrong with their site at the minute, but check out the neck joint when it's all fixed.

[plastercaster]

what about koa for the body?

Nowt wrong with it. My Tokai SG is made of Koa and some people complain of it being too "soft".

THe phrase "my arse" springs instantly to mind, some folk just like trashing cheap guitars.

MIK or MIJ?
I never knew they did a koa model

[sambo]

If it's a korina guitar you're after.  You could be a lot less better off (in all senses) by getting a Nik Huber Junior.  There's something wrong with their site at the minute, but check out the neck joint when it's all fixed.

Nik Huber eh..?

the name rings a bell...

i'll look into them.

cheers.

[Philly Q]

Les Paul with Tele Bridge...? + hamer discussion apparently

Oops, sorry 'bout that!  :oops:  :lol:

[Kilby]

I would point out that ebony tends to make things brighter.

I have a maple & walnut necks tend also to make for a brighter sounding guitar (maple & walnut are used across the whole Rickenbacker range).

For what Sam seems to want I'd tend to think that all mahogany with perhaps a maple cap would be the best option. Korina would also be a good body woood

I have only met Koa on acoustics so I can't judge.

Bubinga tends to be used by bass builders to give more top end according to bass playing friends (and some bass sites).

Walnut & maple neck, ebony fingerboard and a bubinga top would probably be heading in the wrong direction.

Sam I'm not sure what style of guitar you are really letching after but theres a PM on the way for ya.

Rob...

[sambo]

Les Paul with Tele Bridge...? + hamer discussion apparently

Oops, sorry 'bout that!  :oops:  :lol:

:lol: and so you should be!... i mean... its not like you'll ever find ME hijacking anyones thread....

:roll: :oops: :oops: :lol:


and rob- interesting about bubinga... didnt know that.


and yer- the ebony thing is annoying... i love ebony fretboards in terms of feel, and aesthetically love the look of all-ebony necks in general... but i dont want it too affect the sound too much....

any idea just how much of a difference it would make? maybe with mahogany it would be alright, but korina being a bit brighter, im starting to think an all-ebony neck would be too much...

hmmargh!

i'll have a looksie at that pm when it arrives rob, cheers.
 :)

[PhilKing]

I have a walnut guitar with a flame walnut and ebony neck and can tell you that it is bright, however it still has a full sound, not just top end.  I wouldn't pick it for death metal drop tuning though :shock:

Mahogany with maple/ebony bolt on has quite a dark tone depending on the body size.  The more mahogany the darker it seems.  I have a black korina Warmoth Moockingbird with a one piece Aframosa neck that has a great sound.  I also have a Warmoth VIP (PRS clone), with a flame maple cap on black korina body and a rosewood neck with ebony fingerboard.  I have a Miracle Man set on it and it sounds great (Wilkinson trem and Sperzel machines).  The sound is not to clinical but still has a tight bass and the neck tones are very sweet.

[Kilby]

Personally I have a preference for bright sounding guitars (obviously balanced), and found my 360 wasn't all topend (though I still have to get around to getting the neck pickup improved)

Up to a couple of months ago I hadn't actually realised quite how much difference body size made to how bright a guitar sounded.

I just thought it wise to recomend caution with some of the woods being put forward for consideratoin as they seemed to be heading in a different direction to what Sam seemed to be looking for.

Rob...

[sambo]

"I have a walnut guitar with a flame walnut and ebony neck and can tell you that it is bright, however it still has a full sound, not just top end"

interesting, that is.


" also have a Warmoth VIP (PRS clone), with a flame maple cap on black korina body and a rosewood neck with ebony fingerboard. I have a Miracle Man set on it and it sounds great (Wilkinson trem and Sperzel machines). The sound is not to clinical but still has a tight bass and the neck tones are very sweet."


thats close-ish to the ballpark i was aiming for.
cheers for the detail phil- its much appreciated... im really starting to get an idea of what im going for now.



and rob- interesting you should mention body size as well... does it have a significant effect then? thats another reason why my Gibson has a snappy, bright tone- its slim (for an LP.) - i guess?

im starting to think im not cut-out for this custom malarky... its bloody confusing...  :lol:

[ToneMonkey]

Can we have a recap on what you're after. Sounds like you need the Patrick Eggle that I was selling.  Not selling it now though  :P

[LazyNinja]

and yer i guess the thru-neck would be a way of solving it... and that is a feature i would ideally have... although price might restrict me there...

maybe mahogany and korina as through neck, to ensure that theres no risk of the maple taking away too much of the mahogany qualities that i like... ?

i dont think ever seen a thru-neck LP actually now that i come to think of it...

Sorry to quote an old post but the closest thing to a thru neck LP would be Yamaha SG2000. I think the neck is maple though. Try one if you come across one.

edit: I remembered another, BC Rich Mockingbird.

[Dreichlift]

A maple neck with maple/ebony fingerboard helps give a les paul a marginally brighter tone, but to be honest with that expanse of mahogany in the body there's not a lot that'll make it brighter by way of adding a bridge. The biggest difference you'd hear would be changing the body wood for alder or ash maybe...or if you've got the back and neck muscles a solid maple les paul?

Try out some of the cheaper les paul copies like Westfield, Stagg, Tokai etc, many of these have alder bodies and sound noticably twangier and brighter played acoustically, beware plugging them in though as the pickups are.....well, not BKPS

[Philly Q]

...or if you've got the back and neck muscles a solid maple les paul?

God, you'd have to be the The Incredible Hulk to play a solid maple Les Paul.

[sambo]

Can we have a recap on what you're after.

sure-

- LP style guitar, preferably flat-bodied.

not after any spangly quilt/flame maple tops- something with a more natural/raw look is preferred.

sound wise im wanting typical mahogany chunk, but livened up a bit basically... hence why i was looking at alternatives such as korena, which are meant to be a bit brighter whislt retaining similar properties to mahogany.


its almost like im caught between off-the-shelf guitars and a full custom build;

i want something specific enough to not be easily found in a production line guitar, but dont really know every single detail clearly enough for a custom build. grr!

Sounds like you need the Patrick Eggle that I was selling.  Not selling it now though  :P

damn! lol, dont think i ever saw that.  i'm looking at some eggles at the moment actually, heard very good things about them. what was it you were selling exactly?


Dreichlift- i used to have a westfield actually, pity i was too young to really remember what it was like :lol:

but i think your right in general- my mates Tokai is brighter indeed.

im interested in this all-maple idea though... Phil- you reckon it would be that extreme?

also, wouldnt that be almost excessively bright for what i want?

tell me more dreichlift!  :)


cheers guys!