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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2007, 11:20:14 AM »
It would be nice if Ozzy went on tour again. He still owes me one. Last time the tour was cancelled because he parked his quad bike against a tree.
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2007, 11:35:00 AM »
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It would be nice if Ozzy went on tour again. He still owes me one. Last time the tour was cancelled because he parked his quad bike against a tree.


Ozzy IS touring - check his website.

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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2007, 04:25:13 PM »
The main riff in that track sounded more like something Rob Zombie would have come out with. I'm not sure it worked all that well.

As for the SGV, it just looked plain weird to me.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2007, 06:48:33 PM »
No regular concert in Holland.  :(

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2007, 02:34:25 AM »
I find it thoroughly depressing how Ozzy has turned into such a shameless self parody. I once idolised the man but it's almost become like he's just someone for people to laugh at rather than accept as one of the greatest frontmen of all time. From what i've heard of the new album it's all seemed quite mediocre and generic. Ok, it's HIS genre really but there's nothing particularly inspiring about his recent musical output. I really wish that he had actually stayed in retirement.  :(

And I'm not even gonna get into the Sharon Vs. Maiden thing either...  :x
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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2007, 11:33:00 AM »
Ozzy once said he still wanted to make his 'Sgt. Pepper'. How long will we have to wait for that.
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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2007, 12:03:53 PM »
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Ozzy once said he still wanted to make his 'Sgt. Pepper'. How long will we have to wait for that.

No disrespect to Ozzy, but it'll never happen.  He's a fantastic bloke and a genuine rock legend but he hasn't got the talent to make an iconic album like Sgt Pepper.  

If he ever did, it would sound like a bad copy of Sgt Pepper, I suspect.  Ozzy loves Lennon and the Beatles, hence the obligatory schmaltzy ballad on every album.  In fact I wonder if his heart's really in the rock stuff nowadays?
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2007, 01:05:25 PM »
I just don't get the ozzy thing...sabbath yes can understand but after that just don't get it(maybe doesn't help....and I am going to get shot for this..but don't get the zakk thing either, think roads etc where better)
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2007, 05:51:48 PM »
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Ozzy once said he still wanted to make his 'Sgt. Pepper'. How long will we have to wait for that.

No disrespect to Ozzy, but it'll never happen.  He's a fantastic bloke and a genuine rock legend but he hasn't got the talent to make an iconic album like Sgt Pepper.  

If he ever did, it would sound like a bad copy of Sgt Pepper, I suspect.  Ozzy loves Lennon and the Beatles, hence the obligatory schmaltzy ballad on every album.  In fact I wonder if his heart's really in the rock stuff nowadays?


In terms of iconic and world changing albums: he's already done it on numerous occassions (albeit mostly in sabath over thirty years ago)! What more does he need to prove? The man should save whats left of his dignity and retire as gracefully as possible.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2007, 06:43:22 PM »
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In terms of iconic and world changing albums: he's already done it on numerous occassions (albeit mostly in sabath over thirty years ago)! What more does he need to prove? The man should save whats left of his dignity and retire as gracefully as possible.

I'm not saying he needs to prove anything, nor am I criticising what he's done in the past, I was referring to Ratty's specific point about "Ozzy's Sgt Pepper".  Yes, he's made lots of great albums, and he was in the band that for all intents and purposes invented heavy metal.  That's a bloody great achievement as far as I'm concerned.  

But HM isn't the Beatles, and Master Of Reality isn't Sgt Pepper (much though I might like it to be).  Sgt Pepper's an album (and an album cover) that would be recognised by billions of people, literally all over the world.  It transcends musical genres, even transcends music altogether.

Ozzy may be pretty famous, but most people only know him as a funny old long-haired bloke who swears a lot.  The "man in the street" wouldn't know a Black Sabbath or Ozzy album from a hole in the ground.

As to whether or not he'll ever make this hypothetical "Sgt Pepper" album - Ozzy's only ever been as good as the people he works with.  In Sabbath he had the charisma, the eccentric personality, but it was Tony and Geezer who wrote the songs.  In his solo career, he's displayed a remarkable talent for finding genius guitarists - especially the first one - and made some very good records, but still the music depends a great deal on his collaborators (no matter what the writing credits may say).  And the people he writes with now aren't anywhere near as good as the people he wrote with then.

It's not a criticism to say Ozzy's no Lennon or McCartney.  Not many people are.
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