Pig-90 in Humbucker-form?

[sambo]

Right, seeing as you can get a BK-p-90 of some sort in th form of an MQ humbucker.... is it possible to have a pig-90 in the same format?

thing is, for this (potential) custom i'm lining up... i want a bridge pickup with 100% roar... aggressive with lots of bite, but not in terms of a bucket-load of output... i loved my BKP91... but it was a very vintagey sound (still with nice bite and roar- but not enough  :twisted: )

so two questions really:

1.) im assuming the pig-90 is basically a super-hot p-90... retaining the properties (lots of nice bite e.t.c) of a standard p-90, but taken further... is this the case? if not... what exactly ARE pig-90s like?

2.) would it be possible to incorporate one into a humbucker format e.g. Mississippi Queen style? has anyone heard of this being done?


the reason i want it in humbucker form, is that i'm looking into the idea of having a custom humbucker made of coupled single-coils for the neck, to handle all my clean and some lead tones... but i'd rather have a p-90 in the bridge than another humbucker.... and i dont want to have an actual p-90 in the bridge with humbucker in the neck, 'cause it would just look odd.

what do we think?

cheers for any info.

[HTH AMPS]

PIG90s are exactly as you describe, super-hot Warpig-inspired versions of a P90.

Why not go with a set of P90s in the guitar - if you want two output levels at the neck why not go with a tapped P90 that will give a stock vintage P90 tone when tapped and a hotter tone with the full wind.

You could do the same with the PIG90 too - dual output levels.

 :twisted:

[sambo]

cheers HTH.

so do the Pig-90s still retain evidence of them actually being a p-90? that was the one issue that i was a little concerned about; getting that much aggression into it without it losing all its p-90 properties.

and just how warpig-inspired is it? is it extremely heavy/high output?

i really don't know much about them- just the rough concept behind it.

good idea just having a set of p-90s i suppose... i hadnt even considered that

probably because having the single p-90 in my Gibson for so long has got me associating p-90s with bridge pickups only...

the main task of the neck pickup is cleans... i have NO idea what a neck p-90 sounds like clean... i tried a PRS tremonti SE about 3 years ago, but needless to say i can't really remember that at all.

can any provide me with some kind of benchmark of a neck p-90 clean tone?

strat-esque at all?

[dave_mc]

i do believe the solo in another brick in the wall by floyd is a neck p90. don't quote me, though. EDIT: arg, that's not particularly clean.

i'd say closer to LP than strat to be honest... neck positions fatten things out a bit.

[sambo]

cheers for that dave, i'll give it a careful listen anyway.

and closer to humbucker is interesting.

also.

on a side note: im stuck.....  :lol:

i cant decide on a finish/wood for the body i would have...

two options, both same shape- PRS singlecut

1.) one-piece swamp ash body, finished with a very dark 'trans-black', to show faint grain through, with the 'back' being finished in a dark, rich cherry/rosewood colour, with faux binding separating the two.

2.) one-piece mahogany body, finished with a dark brown satin stain all over.

a rough example of this would be:

http://www.prsguitars.com/singlecutstandardsatinsoapbar/index.html

i cant find an example of option 1 as it would be a total one-off. but if anyone has seen the PRS' with cherry backs and vintage yellow tops... it would be a similar principal, but with black and deep red.


any views or alternatives much appreciated!!!

cheers,

sam.
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[HTH AMPS]

Another Brick In The Wall solo was Gilmour's P90 Goldtop DI'd into the board then reamped.  It's quite a pingy sound imo - think of a single coil with slightly less of a focused attack and a fatter overall tone, P90s sound great in the neck position imo.

The PIG90 is a hot wind no doubt, think early Sabbath - thick as a whale omelette    :lol:

 :twisted:

[dave_mc]

^ ^ i have no idea, sam. might be worth asking tim which tones you're after, and which pickups would work best with those woods, etc. also bob can give some great advice too.

[sambo]

yer an email to tim might be worthwhile...


Bob is most probably sick of my questions... the subject title of the last email he sent me, (after i changed some spec), was "Version 93"  :lol:  :lol:  :oops:

he has a good sense of humour thankfully  :)

HTH- early Sabbath... hmmm.. cool. i'm definitely a fan of theirs... im tempted.

cheers.

[Woogie]

Hey Sambo, I felt that way when I was sorting my strat out with him. I must of sent over 50 emails!! Luckily hes a patient man. Our customs should be pretty sweet ;)

[Tricalibur]

I asked Tim about this a while back and he said it was completely possible. I imagine it would sound the same as a regular Pig-90.

[sambo]

ahh! awesome!!!! thats excellent cheers.

have you thought about actually getting one then?


and woogie- if 50 is accurate.... JESUS!  :o  :lol:

and just the word 'custom' itself makes me drool...  :D

[Twinfan]

I'm sure you can't get anything hotter than an MQ in humbucker size.  Tim told me there's no room to get a hotter wind in there, hence no P-91 or P-92 spec MQs.

[sambo]

ahhh i see.... bugger...

so im gonna have to go for one or the other really then...

humbuckers or p-90s.... tough decision.

[Tricalibur]

ahh! awesome!!!! thats excellent cheers.

have you thought about actually getting one then?


and woogie- if 50 is accurate.... JESUS!  :o  :lol:

and just the word 'custom' itself makes me drool...  :D

Yer, im sort of in the procees of saving for on to go with my ceramic pig into the mid position of my 3 pup sg.
 
When I emailed he said you could just go through the regular checkout process with a MQ and then in the comments box request the Pig-90. Same price and everything.

If I get one ill be sure to do a full review and soundclips.

[gwEm]

maybe i got this totally wrong (put this together from other posts), but here goes:

i believe bkp-90,91,92 use a thicker vintage spec wire

because the p90 bobbin has to be filed down to fit in a humbucker cover, the maximum number of turns possible is less than a normal p90 bobbin.

bkp-91 is possible with such a modiffied bobbin, and i think that a small overwind is still possible.

now, furthermore i understand that a pig-90 uses thinner wire to fit more turns on the bobbin for high gain action... so i think an MQ pig-90 is actually possible even if a MQ bkp-92 isn't

now i'm sure tim or someone from bkp will correct me if thats utter rubbish ;)