Author Topic: Gibson Les Paul Custom (Read 19931 times)

Woogie · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2007, 04:56:26 PM »

Slash has his made by a luthier called "Max".

Gibson used to be good but they are like Marshall now, knocking out pricey gear which isn't top quality like it used to be.

I`m sure Gibson do produce some good guitars but surely the customer shouldn't have to go through 10 les pauls to find a good one they want. They also stopped making lefty guitars.

Dazza1004 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:01:02 PM »

Quote from: Woogie

I`m sure Gibson do produce some good guitars but surely the customer shouldn't have to go through 10 les pauls to find a good one they want.

Is that really the case ?

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:08:59 PM »

Quote from: Dazza1004

Quote from: Woogie
I`m sure Gibson do produce some good guitars but surely the customer shouldn't have to go through 10 les pauls to find a good one they want.

Is that really the case ?

Really, really, really, yes.

Woogie · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:12:04 PM »

A few Gibson owners I know have had to go through a few instruments to find one that they like. They seem to be very inconsistent with the stuff they produce. Have you seen the picture of a newer Gibson Les Paul standard without the maple cap? It has 9 (yes 9!!) gaping holes in it because Gibson are trying to lower costs etc. From what I`ve heard also, it only costs about $400 - $500 maximum for Gibson to make a Les Paul because they buy in such big bulk. Feline or Legra (not to mention countless other guitar builders) will make you a Les Paul that wipes the floor with a Gibson for about £1700 - £2000. To get a Gibson to those standards think about what would need upgrading. You would need pickups, nut, tuners, swish neck joint (possibly), a new bridge, volume and tone pots and possibly inlays. Plus with them you`d be getting superior customer support and you know your getting a quality instrument that is built with some of the finest materials available and you know that it will be individual to you with lots of love put into the building of it.

I`m not saying all Gibson guitars suck because they don't. I`d love a really old Les Paul but the prices aren't realistic and I`d be worried about taking them on the road. Gibson make great guitars if your name is Zakk Wylde but they aren't gonna make hundreds of mass produced guitars like that are they.

Take it all with a pinch of salt

lulusg · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:17:09 PM »

I lust for a Les Paul Silverburst , we went to see all kind of custom Gibson and Fender guitars while in Atlanta , hand picked, we ended up buying a custom 62 reissue telecaster though. But that Silverburst stood outthere, it has a darkness to it. Holydivers or Crawlers seem the way to go.

Catalyst77 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:30:27 PM »

I had considered Feline, and still intend on get somethin made,but I liked the idea of a well worn in guitar with a bit of history. Maybe the name does appeal a little bit - even if its just psychological, but to be honest I am impatient person and I dont think I could wait 9 months to have one built! especially as this is a 30th B day present (and unfortunately my 30th b day is not 9 months away!)

Woogie · « **Reply #21 on:** June 21, 2007, 05:33:23 PM »

My Legra has taken only since like March, should be ready anytime soon. We are just sorting the bridge out at the moment. Then I`ll send Bob the final payment (shouldn't lighten my wallet too much!!). They can make you a worn in guitar too. Why not make its history yourself? The guitar may have been round the world twice but surely its better if you went with it!!

PhilKing · « **Reply #22 on:** June 21, 2007, 06:06:19 PM »

I used to have a great 72 Les paul custom, it weighed about 8lbs (3.5 kg for all you youngsters), and played great. I worked in a music shop and had my pick of what came in, whihc was how I picked it out. I was young and stupid though and sold it....

Then in 1991 I decided to buy a Custom Plus. I had a friend who worked at Sam Ash in New Jersey and she let me go through all of the ones that they had (about 10). I liked 2 of them and in the end the colour sold me (even though the 'bookmatch' was under the D string instead of between the D & G). I traded it in 1996 for a 1972 reissue black beauty (with the Alnico & P-90), which I still have. Most of my other Les Pauls are all either vintage, or custom built replicas. However in 2000 I found a 1986 limited edition Darkback Goldtop, which is a great guitar (it has a set of PG Blues in it now and sounds incredible). If I could find the 1972 Custom, then I would buy it in a heartbeat, but since I doubt that I will find it, I am thinking of getting a Greco or other Japanese make.

I can also tell you that buying a custom one is well worth it, as you will get exactly what you want and can specify the neck size, weight, nut width, finish, etc.

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #23 on:** June 21, 2007, 07:13:37 PM »

I think this internet gospel of new Gibsons has gotten out of hand - I've played plenty of Gibsons off the rack and have never played a real dog yet. More people should make decisions based on their own thoughts and not popular concensus.

:twisted:

Woogie · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2007, 07:19:06 PM »

Maybe you were lucky HTH?? I`m going by what I have seen in the flesh.

My local guitar shop has LP Standards for sale @ £2500 which is a bit overpriced.

Bob Johnson · « **Reply #25 on:** June 21, 2007, 07:26:12 PM »

Quote from: Mr Ed

Quote from: indysmith
tip: don't get a gibson one, lol. Unless yu got money to waste.

My Greco LP custom cost £180, has mahognay body, maple top, mahogany neck, rosewood fretboard, long neck tennon, stock SD '59s, a big fat 50s style neck.
It's a cracker.

Too the words right squaa out of my mouth. To reiterate:

FORGET GIBSON!!

The build quality on a lot (note: not all) of them, even the Customs, is appalling. Take this for example, it's been around for a few years:

The shoddy one at the top is an actual example - provided by Gibson themselves - of the neck joint on current Les Pauls. The one at the bottom is on historic models and custom shop (ie, specially made) ones. Note the difference in how much wood is in contact and to think, that's supposed to aid that "legendary" Les Paul sustain.

If you want a Les Paul, I suggest as already said - lawsuit models:

Greco
Burny
Orville
Edwards ESP
Fernandes
Yamaha

You'll pay 3-4 times less and get an all-round better instrument. As long as you don't care about what's on the headstock, you'll scoop a bargain and a half.

In fact, do what I just did as I was typing this (by pure coincidence) - go to eBay and just simply search for "japan" under musical instruments and filter it to show guitars. Behold the bargains!!

That looks like it's been done to adjust the neck angle (the set) to the body to overcome manufacturing tolerances. It's not shoddy it's definitely deliberate.I've never seen anything like it!! Just imagine what that does to the tonal qualities of a "set neck" if only the sides of the neck are glued to the body. A cheap bolt on is gonna sound better.

Woogie · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2007, 07:28:45 PM »

Woah Bob, you lost me there...

Are you saying the top one is better tonally?

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2007, 07:34:09 PM »

Quote from: Woogie

Maybe you were lucky HTH?? I`m going by what I have seen in the flesh.

My local guitar shop has LP Standards for sale @ £2500 which is a bit overpriced.

are you sure they're standards and not VOS spec or something? - that sounds VERY expensive.

:twisted:

Woogie · « **Reply #28 on:** June 21, 2007, 07:37:05 PM »

It is a stupidly expensive shop, just normal LP standards!! My friend asked "How much for an SG Standard?" and the tit said "Too much for you!!" and then he walked off laughing. 1 minute up the road is a better shop with much better prices and its way more friendly also!!

Catalyst77 · « **Reply #29 on:** June 21, 2007, 07:38:28 PM »

Your friend needs to go back in that shop with guitars hanging of his body; pretty women style.