Author Topic: Set Neck / Bolt on (Read 5156 times)

Will · « **on:** July 11, 2007, 11:29:28 PM »

Right, Hi - just joined
Am ripping apart an old guitar
Just curious about what tonal effect gluing a bolt on neck in, aswell as bolting it in would have?

Thanks

Twinfan · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:37:43 AM »

I would say none whatsoever. The socket you're gluing it too won't be a very tight fit (like a set neck is) so there'll be no benefit.

indysmith · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:13:15 AM »

I'd say the effect would be a negative one rather than a positive one. Surely the glue between the wood of the neck and wood of the body would absorb some of the vibrations, not allowing it to resonate so well.
I'd say the advantage to it would be added strength... but then if the neck did break it would be harder to replace.

WezV · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:32:33 AM »

a bolt on join is much stronger than a glued in neck - if in doubt take a few over the head swings with a nice vintage strat and a LP onto a solid concrete floor - the strat might survive, the lp wont.

I wouldnt glue the neck in place because chances are you have finish on the neck and in the pocket - thats going to stop you getting a nice clean glue join so you cant garantee a strong join - even if it is nice and tight. Even if you strip it it will never be as good a join as you would get on fresh wood.

Will · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:40:09 PM »

thanks
oh well, won't do that then
while i am here... any other weird things i can do to my guitar???? :D
its a cr@p stagg 'gothic' flying V

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:44:27 PM »

Quote from: Will

thanks
oh well, won't do that then
while i am here... any other weird things i can do to my guitar???? :D
its a cr@p stagg 'gothic' flying V

How about upgrading the pickups? PDT_008

WezV · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:27:22 PM »

simple stuff like getting a nut that isnt plastic, doing a fretdress - stuff like that will get you so far but after a certain point it becomes like polishing a turd

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:33:45 PM »

New bridge, new neck, new machine heads, new pickups, new pots, new frets, new nut, new body.

Transcend · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:39:41 PM »

Quote from: noodleplugerine

New bridge, new neck, new machine heads, new pickups, new pots, new frets, new nut, new body.

what about new jack input..... and wires????

gingataff · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2007, 03:54:59 PM »

Quote from: WezV

a bolt on join is much stronger than a glued in neck - if in doubt take a few over the head swings with a nice vintage strat and a LP onto a solid concrete floor - the strat might survive, the lp wont.

I wouldnt glue the neck in place because chances are you have finish on the neck and in the pocket - thats going to stop you getting a nice clean glue join so you cant garantee a strong join - even if it is nice and tight. Even if you strip it it will never be as good a join as you would get on fresh wood.

So take that, Mr Blackmore!! PDT_023

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:28:41 PM »

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Quote from: noodleplugerine
New bridge, new neck, new machine heads, new pickups, new pots, new frets, new nut, new body.

what about new jack input..... and wires????

Anyone tried a Neutrik jack?

Do they work?

Will · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:42:40 PM »

definately need a new nut - the old one broke in half while i was playing
i was heading in the direction of some BKPs for it, but i just bought an acoustic...
i was thinking of putting a carved top on it randomly, anybody heard of a carved top V ?

WezV · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:38:23 PM »

Quote from: noodleplugerine

Quote from: hate_growth
Quote from: noodleplugerine
New bridge, new neck, new machine heads, new pickups, new pots, new frets, new nut, new body.

what about new jack input..... and wires????

Anyone tried a Neutrik jack?

Do they work?

I have used the locking ones with the red button on a few guitars, stopped using them because they stick out too much for my tastes and even people who know hot to use them pull funny faces when removing the jack - that tells me they are unneccisary.

I solved the sticking out thing on a recent bass by recessing it:

But that creates the problem of a thin bit of wood on the front - which is obviously a weak spot - but the jack was a client request so had to be incorporated.

I suppose i should show the rest of the bass now - i rather like this thing.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2007, 07:15:10 PM »

That pinstripe is GORGEOUS!

So you say they're pretty useless?

I allways wondered - Surely if you trip or catch the lead of something it's better that the lead falls out than the jack being pulled out of the wood?

WezV · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2007, 07:30:41 PM »

not useless - just completely unneccisary.

I agree that its probably better if the jack pulls out when stepped on rather than rip out all the jack socket with it - and suddenly it takes two hands to safely remove your jack which increases the likelyhood of you dropping the guitar

Author Topic: Set Neck / Bolt on (Read 5156 times)

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