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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2007, 10:29:46 PM »
now we are getting there!!  i suppose i could do a bookmatched fretboard with one of the neck laminates but really i prefer either light or dark rather than the somehwere in the middle like zebrano.

so if you dont like the top horn would you rather it was more les paul shaped on the upper bout with the sharper lower hornof the shape i posted????

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2007, 10:30:57 PM »
vote 6 - finish:

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2007, 10:47:00 PM »
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now we are getting there!!  i suppose i could do a bookmatched fretboard with one of the neck laminates but really i prefer either light or dark rather than the somehwere in the middle like zebrano.

so if you dont like the top horn would you rather it was more les paul shaped on the upper bout with the sharper lower hornof the shape i posted????


The bottom horn is very nice - But I think the upper horn isn't as pretty - I think it's a bit too bulbous in some way.

But don't let me overstep my mark - This is your guitar, and your business!

6: I'd say if using the spalted then do an oiled finish - And if using the maple a transparent burst - Either blue/red/purple etc - A vibrant colour.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2007, 11:16:22 PM »
Hey man! use the Spalted Maple! It rules! :twisted:

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2007, 11:28:25 PM »
Should go for the original shape, with the spalted top, and the Ziracote fingerboard :)

That Bocote fingerboard looks really nice, i may have to get a piece for when i get round to building a fretless bass! :)
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2007, 11:29:01 PM »
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But don't let me overstep my mark - This is your guitar, and your business!


but thats the point, i always want to listen to what other people want from a guitar otherwise i may as well just stick to making them for myself - and i seem to be getting a little beyond that now and thats the way i see my future going!!!

plus, if i am documenting it here - it might as well be something thats for the BKP people!!  it should make it more interesting for you all to watch.

If tim wants to input as well that would be great, but no expectations - i would really like to know what he would like from a guitar that the only sure design decision at this stage is that it will definately feature his pickups!!!

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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2007, 11:52:34 PM »
1: spalted top
2: Can be the shape you show
3: Neck should be fat tone like mahogany/rosewood... the fingerboard shall be Ziricote!
4: Tunomatic with string thru body or hardtail
5: That's very particular, what kind of souond do you seek? (put 2 humbuckers or Mississippi Queen - BLACK!)
6: clean finish!

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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2007, 12:13:43 AM »
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5: That's very particular, what kind of souond do you seek? (put 2 humbuckers or Mississippi Queen - BLACK!)


well thats the question!!  most of the guitars i make now i end up selling which is why i asked for people opinions on what is most versatile...  Its almost like i am trying to remove what i want from the equation - because being able to build what other people want is a much better skill to have!!!  

if you take something like a normal guitars with standard pickups it should be able to do a whole range of stuff - thats what i am after - but something that is still distinctly WV!!!  so i am not looking for something completely high gain or something completely clean - just something that shows my guitars off to there full potential

Even if i end up keeping this for myself when its finished, i am the sort of player that no guitar is wrong for - just different....  i am fairly obsessed with guitars and generally like all of them!!!  which is why i am willing to except suggestions from the BKP froum on this matter

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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2007, 03:19:32 AM »
Bocote fretboard man, all the way!
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2007, 09:45:28 AM »
1. Spalt, most definately spalt. I love it.

2. I quite like the shape, it reminds me of something I was looking at in the guitar shop yeterday. Although Firebirds kick arse man (got a rebranded Ibanez Lawsuit Firebird that may be up for grabs if anyone wants it)

3. Bloodwood:Zebrano:Bloodwood neck with the fingerboard blank cut off the same neck blank (after glueing) so it just carries on through the neck on fretboard.

4. TOM bridge, trems cover too much wood  :lol:

5. Haven't heard enough BKP's to give an opinion, but the blend pot betwwen a coil tap (as used on Vintage guitars) is apparently really versatile.

6. Just harden the spalt and leave it natural.  Spalt is it's own decoration.
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2007, 10:12:40 AM »
i';m going to go against what everyone else has said;
I don't like the bottom horn; It looks to weedy and pointy. It makes me want to snap it off...
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2007, 12:26:18 PM »
I love chevron flame tops (one of my LP's has one), and I really don't like spalted wood - basically you have fungus holes in it!  A very clever marketing trick though - let's not throw away this piece of cr@p, let's pretend it is a jewel and price it as such.

I don't mind the body shape - looks like the Aria PE's if it will have a carved top.  Firebirds are great, but they really need a neck through to be 'right'.  

Having 2 bloodwood necks, I am somewhat biased.  However I think the bloodwood fingerboard on the bocate or rosewood neck would look great.

For me the best bridge is a wrap around, or the hardtail strat.

Pickups are more a case of what sound are you going for.  Without hearing the finished guitar and not knowing what woods you are going to use, I think it is really hard to say what pickups to go for.  At this point I think 2 humbucker cut outs is all I can pick, although if you are going for the more basic look, what about 2 P-90's?

The purple you had on the tele was great looking.  Tell you sprayer back and you should get a great finish again  :lol:
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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2007, 12:26:49 PM »
Ok, here goes

1. Anything but spalt maple (looking at it makes me feel ill) preferably the flame maple

2. The shape is a difficult one, but  I really like the BC Rich Eagle :P  (Picture here for those who may not have seen one)

3. My preferred neck/ fretboard wood is, and always will be, maple on maple - although from the choices you gave, I'd take the Zebrano, with that Bocote board (i like the grain pattern on that)

4. TOM - String thru, no question lol

5. I'd take either a pair of Abraxas, or Abraxas/MQ

6. GREENBURST! :D

Ooo, I'm getting myself all excited now - any chance I could pay you to build what i've just come up with there? :P
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2007, 12:41:01 PM »
vote 1:
Plain korina body with no top

Vote 2:
firebird!! - although maybe make it something slightly differet


Vote 3
brazilian rosewood looks nice

Vote 4
tune-o-matic
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Bridge - mini mule
mid - MQ
neck - mini mule
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2007, 02:33:23 PM »
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3. Bloodwood:Zebrano:Bloodwood neck with the fingerboard blank cut off the same neck blank (after glueing) so it just carries on through the neck on fretboard.


i like the idea of mixing bloodwood and zebrano in the neck, but i really dont like the idea of mixing fretboard woods.  it can look great but seems a little wrong to me - you might get the strings sounding differnt from each other because of the tonal characteristics of each peice of fretboard wood!!

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I love chevron flame tops (one of my LP's has one), and I really don't like spalted wood - basically you have fungus holes in it! A very clever marketing trick though - let's not throw away this piece of cr@p, let's pretend it is a jewel and price it as such.


Phil has a good point here, as much as i like spalt it is only for decoration and doesnt add anything to the guitar tonally - in fact if used unwisely it can detract - mouldy wood isnt the most vibrant stuff.  wheras the other maple top i have shown is thicker and will bring some nice top end sparkle.  Matched with the korina  it would give a very rich and complex les paul sound - but less muddy!!

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brazilian rosewood looks nice


i dont have to do another rant about the current state of brazilian rosewood do i, i am sure i have bored enough of you with that :wink:   Although the ziracote i am getting is very close to good braz RW in looks  and sound except for its more grey - dark brown- black rather than the purples and reds you can get in braz RW.  I like the idea of having 3 pickups but that might be limited by money!!  I have just been to the tattoist today to book in and i need to save £250 for a huge arm tattoo


thanks for the ideas guys - keep them coming!!!