Celestion g12h - got to love it!

[kevincurtis]

Hi All

Just treated myself to a new G12H for my JCM800 combo. Well happy - the tonal balance is so much better, fatter bottom and much smoother mids - really does my Crawler'd strat justice :)  

I did an a/b recording just so i had a reference for it using an sm57 straight onto the amp (at bedroom volume), slightly offset (not its sweet spot, but easier to replicate) which Ive posted here  - i found celestions site slightly annoying in that none of the clips are the same so you couldnt do a direct comparison of how the sound changes from speaker to speaker.  I thought i would post them for anyone thinking about changing speakers.

http://www.theaxemancometh.co.uk/resources/g12h.mp3

http://www.theaxemancometh.co.uk/resources/g75.mp3

K

[DeanS]

Good comparison and fine tone.

You can really hear the extra detail in the upper mids from the G12H. I'm a G12M man myself but I'd love to try a mix of M's and H's in 2X12

[_tom_]

The G12H sounds so much better! G75 sounds boxy and nasal to me. I'm a fan of G12Hs as well, though I may still swap one of them in my 2x12 out for a v30 as the Laney could do with a bit more upper mids. Just before I sold my old cab (with eminence in) I tried it out quickly and it sounded awful compared to the G12H cab.

[indysmith]

i got a g12h and a v30 in my jcm800 combo - they work so much better than the stock shitee; i was amazed

[hunter]

My biggest nightmare G1275s - however I love all the others; G12M25, Vintage30, 12H30, G12-65 are all great speakers.

I used to have a mix of V30/H30 and now run 12M25/12-65, I dig both but prefer the latter.

[Bob Johnson]

That's a really useful comparison; it's not often you hear exactly the same input though two different speakers.

I know that the G12-75 comes in for a lot of stick sometimes but it has it's place in the general scheme of thing otherwise Celestion wouldn't continue making it.

If, for instance, you play a Les Paul from the really shitety period when Gibson, and Epiphone; by association, were overly obsessed with muddy middle and bass tones the extended top of the G12-75 could be the answer to a maidens prayer

[everton_fc]

Good recordings dude - actually liked 'em both!

[kevincurtis]

As ever it's horses for courses- I didnt dislike the 75, but it doesnt have the tonal balance for me, but of you want more honk then no problem! Down side is, I cannot turn the wick all the way up now, or the speaker will be joining me in the outside world as its only a 30 watter :(  however I am thinking of putting a vintage 30 in my laney AOR30 and so if i ever (unlikely now!) needed to go full out i could spread it across both :)

PS - I'd be very interested in hearing an a/b on a g12h and a vintage30 (or any other speaker for tht matter...)

[Twinfan]

I'd be very interested in hearing an a/b on a g12h and a vintage30 (or any other speaker for tht matter...)

If I could do you clips I would  :(

The V30 needs to REALLY be pushed before it shines.  My JTM-45 (40ish watts) with a 2x12 V30 cab (120ish watts) sounds a bit naff and honky.  The same cab with my 100w "Super Klipp" sounds fantastic!

You always need at least 50% of the speaker's rating being pushed to get them to work as intented.

I have the G12H Heritage / Vintage 30 combo in an X-pattern my 4x12.  A great big fat rocking tone   8)

[kevincurtis]

Ok, I'm jealous as hell! (insert a 'jealous' emotion here!) had to sell my 4x12 as needed the space and I wasn't using it for much. that combo of speakers sounds like it would suit the JCM800 to the T!

[Twinfan]

Yep, I reckon it would.  I've not had chance to crank the Super Klipp with the 4x12 but I think it would be a superb combination.  I'll be interested to try it with the JTM45 too...

[hamfist]

G'day chaps. I'm a noob on here so be gentle with me. Here's some speaker comparison files done by Southbayampworks (hence quite a lot of scumback clips) that I've "collected". They include quite a number of vintage Celestion H and M clips as well as a few current prod heritage H and M  clips. the link is http://www.box.net/shared/palfc0jz7q/rss.xml
  I also remember hearing some great comparative clips on the Matamp forum between H's, M's and V30's. but I can't find them now for the life of me. If someone else can, hopefully they can stick up a link.

Alan

[kevincurtis]

Enjoy stretching out that 4x12, you're getting me to the point of saying stuff the mortgage and getting a V30 to put in my laney so I can have a 2x12 at least!  :)

Hey alan - welcome on board and thanks for the links, some good stuff in there :)

[gingataff]

however I am thinking of putting a vintage 30 in my laney AOR30 and so if i ever (unlikely now!) needed to go full out i could spread it across both :)

I'd be very interested to to hear that as I've got an AOR30 lurking around. Have you upgraded the valves in it at all?
The JCM clips are great by the way, I like the bite of the g75 and the smoothness of the g12. Something in between would be perfect for me.

[kevincurtis]

however I am thinking of putting a vintage 30 in my laney AOR30 and so if i ever (unlikely now!) needed to go full out i could spread it across both :)

I'd be very interested to to hear that as I've got an AOR30 lurking around. Have you upgraded the valves in it at all?
The JCM clips are great by the way, I like the bite of the g75 and the smoothness of the g12. Something in between would be perfect for me.

Ive just revalved the Laney, but with bog standard valves - I could do you a clip of the laney through the G12 if you wanted (in fact Ive just had a play with it through the g12 - sounds pretty darn good). What style do you like?! ;)