Chambered or weight relieved?

[Yamhammer]

Hi,

I have a question about my 2006 LP Studio Premium Plus:

Chambered or not?

[Ratrod]

This is how a chambered Les Paul looks like on the inside.


When the top is mounted, the chambers are permanently sealed. Anything that gets trapped inside like wood splinters or little pieces of solder will never get out.

But I don't think your's is chambered. Take off all the cover plates and pickups, shake it around and see what falls out.

[Yamhammer]

Yeah, but that stuff inside the guitar is weird for a 'not-chambered' Les Paul.

[Philly Q]

Your LP isn't chambered, but (as you've indicated in the title of the thread) it may well be weight relieved.  Instead of large chambers like the pic above, the weight relief is basically just holes drilled most of the way through the body to remove some wood.  Hidden, of course, by the maple top.

Chambering affects the tone, giving the guitar a semi-acoustic quality, but the weight relief holes don't have much effect because the "cavities" are too small to resonate.

I've read that most (maybe all?) newer, non-Custom Shop, LPs have 9 weight relief holes drilled in the body.

But yeah, it's more likely just a little bit of solder in the control cavity or something.

[WezV]

have you not all heard about gibsons revolutionary 'toneflakes', garanteed improvement in tone!!

Philly has the right information, it is possibly a weight relieved body rather than a chambered one

[Yamhammer]

Your LP isn't chambered, but (as you've indicated in the title of the thread) it may well be weight relieved.  Instead of large chambers like the pic above, the weight relief is basically just holes drilled most of the way through the body to remove some wood.  Hidden, of course, by the maple top.

Chambering affects the tone, giving the guitar a semi-acoustic quality, but the weight relief holes don't have much effect because the "cavities" are too small to resonate.

I've read that most (maybe all?) newer, non-Custom Shop, LPs have 9 weight relief holes drilled in the body.

But yeah, it's more likely just a little bit of solder in the control cavity or something.

Thanks for your clarification about the chambering thing.

I also think the LP Studio is weight relieved, but that stuff inside you hear shaking around isn't a bit of solder or a loose electronic thing in the control cavity. I had this 'problem' from the  first day I've bought the guitar and it's still there (even with the new pickups in it). I've looked in the control cavity but I couldn't find anything wrong in it.
It must be something in the holes...and I think that's kinda weird for only a weight relieved LP.

[Twinfan]

I'd take both rear cover plates off and shake the guitar around a bit.  There may be something in the toggle switch cavity, or in the channel between the two cavities, that's rattling around.  Have a listen and see if you can work out where the sound's coming from too...

[WezV]

yeah - definately check first, but this is a common issue on newer gibsons.  Check out one of the BFG's!!!

[Philly Q]

If it is something in one of the weight relief holes, you're going to be stuck with it.  :(

I'd have thought they'd be glueing the tops in a nice clean dust-and-lint-free environment, but you never know with Gibson.

[WezV]

apparently with the BFG's they purposely dont hoover them out to add to the badly made feel of the guitar.

With the normal LP's i guess they try and keep them cleaned out but are not that thorough - gibsons attention to detail is not great is it.  It could also be a loose bit of glue that is left over from glueing the top on.

if it is this then it cant easily be fixed but isnt really a problem anyway - worth checking everywhere else first like has been suggested

[Ted]

Will Sir have the swiss cheese or the hollow?





I saw these on the Warmoth board, quite interesting...

[Philly Q]

Will Sir have the swiss cheese or the hollow?

I saw these on the Warmoth board, quite interesting...

Very interesting!  :D

So presumably that's an LP Custom with, as they said, 9 weight-relief holes.  And a BFG with chambers.

You can even see the short-tenon neck joint.

[CUBE]

Gibson started chambering in about september of 06 the stuff rattling around is a bit of wood pushed into the cavity of the guitar from the end pin, this problem was fixed on all the new ones

[noodleplugerine]

Gibson started chambering in about september of 06 the stuff rattling around is a bit of wood pushed into the cavity of the guitar from the end pin, this problem was fixed on all the new ones

If that's true then you're just another customer fully satisfied by Gibson's amazing build quality!

[sgmypod]

Sorry to jump in here but where did you get the hollow picks....as have a guild which is chambered ...anyone got one of that *S*