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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2006, 01:24:18 PM »
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I can't believe the ignorant and harsh comments in this thread and I thought the people on this forum were such down to earth people. Threads started just for bashing are just plain stupid why bother?


Good point Muso
I happen to think that the two players are very able players
Herman has a lot of skill
I just feel that the music they play in their band holds no appeal for me, whilst others in the same genre amaze me

I do think that the title "Bet you can't play this" is a bit smug and offputting to beginners whilst it is intended as a throwing down the gauntlet to get us all practising
Some of the players on these clips come across as smug whilst others blow you away and inspire you at the same time

I found the Michael Romeo inspiring like I did when I heard Uli Roth, Michael  Schenker, Yngwie Malmsteen, Randy Rhoads, or even Ralph Santola
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2006, 01:31:21 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2006, 01:33:07 PM »
Sound like an OLD record here but said it before and will say it again.
Bash ALL ya want but they (band/player in question) have reached such status that they HAVE affected you! Yes they have, or ya would'nt be talking about them. Like them or not (whatever topic) they have contracts and therefore making a living doing what they want.

Having said that, was bored whilst shopping (yes with females) so popped into a record shop. Not much caught my eye so saw a Dragonforce CD on prominent display. Never heard of em but read the sticker affixed to front (plaudits from many people/publications). Ok give it a try I thought. Get in car to come home and whack it in. Suffice to say, listened to little and gave it away next day, NOT my 'cup of tea', however, talent is talent wether like it or not.

Bash away, but they STILL got ya attention  :lol:
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2006, 01:35:27 PM »
just says to me they should be practicing a bit more before shooting a video which is meant to show them as virtuoso's.. Because they did just make a fool of them selfs..

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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2006, 02:20:50 PM »
:D Again i think people are jumping the gun with this. My comments about them where based on Quality control issues not about wether  they could play or not. As Johnathon [ Feline ] said they can & very obviously can play but with this Vid they`ve made pratts of themselves.

My comments about there music are based on the fact that IMHO there not very good. Again i`m not opposed to the type of music or style they adopt i just don`t think they do it very well, which was why i mentioned Power Quest who imho do it better.

As for banging away, your right at least there doing something, & putting it up there  to be shot at.  Its up to the players on this forum to get themselves thus far but when they do to exercise Quality Control & not to turn up to do lessons for guitar mags with pissy uninterested attitudes for something most of the rest of us would kill to be asked. It shows disrespect for other players imho

 :D  8)

PS Johnathon loved the link great player, speed, tone & it was musical.
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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2006, 04:11:00 PM »
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Dragonforce make me laugh, I think they're great. A lot of people make the mistake of over-analysing them and in doing so completely miss the point! Listen to their lyrics, read their interviews, they don't take themselves particularly seriously so why is everyone else doing so?! They are just having huge amounts of fun and are lucky enough to have engineered themselves into a situation where they can make a living doing this, if you are looking for artistic merit then you will not find it with dragonforce. You will, however, find people enjoying themselves and this is what really creates their appeal.

For what it's worth, their guitar playing pisses all over most other guitarists abilities it's just that they have reached the point where they recognise that there are far more enjoyable and satisfying things to do in life than attempting to be the most inovative guitarist since satch or vai!  :lol:


thats what i was getting at! nice one

and Muso 'n Nick... well said.

Jt. i still agree with you entirely about theyre attitudes and everything... well said to you also.

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« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2006, 05:04:57 PM »
i for one am not arguing about them "doing it" or however you want to call it, i'm arguing the gimmick of theirs.. overusing a whammy and making them sound like they are doing that stuff with their ability to control the instrument. i wont go into their guitar sound cos that's a farce in itself.

if you check youtube for that friedman and rolly vs dragonsuck video, you'll see that they are just about slightly over an average guitarists skill, but are hiding that behind MASSIVE ammounts of compression, distortion and a whammy being used 50 times in a solo.

their music is catchy, but so is all power metal that is out there and there are ridiculous numbers of bands that are better musicians and have better music, that dragonforce, but dont have an annoying gimmick to propell them forward.
everybody can do that.. but most chose not to make a complete ass of themselves when it comes to actualy walk the walk.

what humours me, is when the same people that praise dragonforse, slam malmsteen for doing what he does. yet they dont realise malmsteen has more skill and tallent in his ass hair than them.

if you think they have "untouchable" skill, you shouldnt be calling yourself a guitarist, lock yourself in a room for a year and practice your ass off and you'll be better than both of em combined.
believe me, it's a LOT more fun, if you know what you're doing and have a certain ammount of control over the instrument, than just noodling away in the key of Eminor, which is basicaly what they're doing all the time.

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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2006, 05:08:53 PM »
i personally am not a fan of them at all..

but i totally disagree with you... jsut cause theres a load of people better than them... does not mean theyre bad (skill-wise)... and i also dont think theyre hiding behind gimicks at all... as ive already said i dont like them at all... just saying what i honestly think...

i still think theyre very good skill-wise... just my personal opinion.

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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2006, 05:22:39 PM »
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i personally am not a fan of them at all..

but i totally disagree with you... jsut cause theres a load of people better than them... does not mean theyre bad (skill-wise)... and i also dont think theyre hiding behind gimicks at all... as ive already said i dont like them at all... just saying what i honestly think...

i still think theyre very good skill-wise... just my personal opinion.


They are gimmicky, this is because, as I said before, they are just having a laugh and taking the piss. Marty Friedman may be able to outplay them but I'd rather go out on a pub-crawl with dragonforce!  :lol:
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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2006, 05:23:52 PM »
:lol: agreed... i wasnt saying they werent gimicky.. i was just saying they werent hiding behind theyre gimicks... as in... they can still play well too...

although like you said... theyre obivously not the best msot amazing players out there... but still... the point stands.

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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2006, 05:30:53 PM »
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:lol: agreed... i wasnt saying they werent gimicky.. i was just saying they werent hiding behind theyre gimicks... as in... they can still play well too...

although like you said... theyre obivously not the best msot amazing players out there... but still... the point stands.


Agreed, I like them it's just that many people miss the point. Also, a lot of people have only become vehemently anti-dragonforce since they made certain comments about Trivium in jest. These have also been completely mis-understood by many people with no sense of humour!  :lol:

Seriously, I used to be of the "lock yourself away for half your life practising" school of thought, then I got laid and discovered beer. My quality of life has improved radically in the years since then but my guitar technique does suck now though. Musical ability is good but there's far more important stuff in the world!
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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2006, 05:31:58 PM »
:lol:  :lol:

good philosophy...

yer that trivium stuff was stupid... theyre all mates anyway...

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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2006, 05:33:47 PM »
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:lol:  :lol:

good philosophy...

yer that trivium stuff was stupid... theyre all mates anyway...


innit, it's amazing how much that whole situation blew up, even though it's fairly likely that both bands were just pissing themselves laughing the whole way through!  :lol:
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2006, 05:37:45 PM »
exactly! lol  :lol:

its cause of all the hype around most famous bands nowadays... any event is dramatised to the extreme... so stupid

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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2006, 05:44:21 PM »
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:lol: agreed... i wasnt saying they werent gimicky.. i was just saying they werent hiding behind theyre gimicks... as in... they can still play well too...

although like you said... theyre obivously not the best msot amazing players out there... but still... the point stands.

can you watch that first video and SERIOUSLY say that it is good? i mean skill vise?

when they play slow it's pretty ok, but when they speed it up, it's TOTALY sloppy.. besides tottman cant even hit the strings without a dud note while slow. i was playing that stuff within the first year of picking up the guitar AND doing it better


i for one dont miss the point. i LOVE power metal, i think it's pretty safe to say that i'm one of the biggest power metal fans on this forum and i know what it is about. dragonsuck do not belong on the list, period. they arent good players, period. besides, if you do a show off video, at least do your homework about what you're gonna play.

them, avenged 7fold and trivium should be locked away in a gas cell.