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Title: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on July 15, 2008, 11:53:05 AM
On HC theres a "heaviest amp contest" thread so I did a track for it with my GH. Drums done in EZDrummer as usual and ran through a low pass to make them a bit darker sounding which seems to sound better to me. Guitar was Epi LP w/Mules > Keeley Rat (gain about halfway up) > GH50L (gain on 6) > G12H speakers. Its not the full track so it stops a bit abruptly toward the end, I might just fade it out instead.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=493678&songID=6720417

Sorry for the noodling at the end I got a bit carried away :lol: Bass was done by a HC user called pir, it sounds so dirty :D Making me want a bass now.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: sgmypod on July 15, 2008, 12:17:39 PM
Not heard of sleep before looked it up..and that Is perfect sound for that song
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: indysmith on July 15, 2008, 12:33:27 PM
Great as usual!
Not sure you'll win that 'heaviest amp' contest with this though!
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on July 15, 2008, 01:13:57 PM
True but its a heavy riff :) I'm gonna have to re-record when I get my pig 90, I bet it'll be perfect for this.

I think this one the guy who did the bass did on his Matamp is way heavier

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=854231&songID=6718536

Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: Crazy_Joe on July 15, 2008, 04:23:36 PM
True but its a heavy riff :) I'm gonna have to re-record when I get my pig 90, I bet it'll be perfect for this.

I think this one the guy who did the bass did on his Matamp is way heavier

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=854231&songID=6718536



Personally i think that Matamp sounds like cr@p, the Laney wins!
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: indysmith on July 15, 2008, 05:12:49 PM
I reckon Matamps are very much an acquired taste. I never used to like them, but recently it's just sort of clicked
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on July 15, 2008, 05:19:28 PM
Same here, I dont know if I'd buy one because they only really seem to do that really dry but heavy stoner rock tone well, I havent heard many other clips I liked much except the odd minimat one.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: Elliot on July 15, 2008, 08:53:18 PM
Tom you are shite hot!

When you doing your first session and who for? :P
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on July 15, 2008, 09:21:35 PM
haha it wasnt that good of a track was it? Not exactly the most challenging riffage.. thanks :D I dont think I'd get any session work because I dont know anything about theory and each time I sit down and try and learn some I give up because it seems to make music more of a chore than something enjoyable :P :?
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: il˙ti on July 15, 2008, 10:59:12 PM
Good stuff. I just love that open tone the Mule has even under high gain. Beautiful.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: HTH AMPS on July 15, 2008, 11:27:48 PM
Sleep have some HEAVY riffs and you got that vibe down Tom, nice work.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on July 16, 2008, 10:10:18 AM
Indeed they do :) I cant stand Dopesmoker though, so overrated. Holy Mountain is way better imo!

Yeah ilyti the mules always have a great tone for anything. Still my favourite pickups out of those I've tried.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: TomW on July 16, 2008, 11:45:05 AM
Sounds brilliant!

I reckon Matamps are very much an acquired taste. I never used to like them, but recently it's just sort of clicked

Aye I've started really liking the sound of matamps, the one in that clip sounds great. Seems perfect for that style
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: HTH AMPS on July 16, 2008, 12:06:19 PM
Holy Mountain is the only Sleep album I have, sounds like I got lucky and picked the best one  :D
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on July 16, 2008, 11:26:38 PM
The track sounds great _tom_!  I don't want to jack this thread, but after listening to your clip I went on youtube to listen to more of this Supernau...I mean Dragonaut and it angered me how much they wanted to BE Black Sabbath.  The second riff is almost exactly like the main riff in Sabbath's Lord Of This World but changed just enough so they wouldn't get sued.

Sabbath - Lord Of This World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msmXmGXlSi0

Sleep - Dragonaut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj9IAvv32wE

There are more similarites too.  In the Sleep video the singer is dressed exactly like Ozzy used to with the same hair and also played a Rickenbacker like Geezer used to.  Then you have the Laney amp and a Gibson, I was fully expecting an SG I really was.  I like Sabbath too but I think if you go that far with it you might as well be a cover band.  You can be influenced by a band and play in the "style" of that band without sounding exactly like them.  I haven't listened to any of Sleep's other stuff so I don't know if it's all this way but that video hit the hot button for me.

Again sorry for the hijack, I just want to know if I'm the only one that this angers. :shock:
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: HTH AMPS on July 17, 2008, 12:03:28 AM
The track sounds great _tom_!  I don't want to jack this thread, but after listening to your clip I went on youtube to listen to more of this Supernau...I mean Dragonaut and it angered me how much they wanted to BE Black Sabbath.  The second riff is almost exactly like the main riff in Sabbath's Lord Of This World but changed just enough so they wouldn't get sued.

Sabbath - Lord Of This World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msmXmGXlSi0

Sleep - Dragonaut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj9IAvv32wE

There are more similarites too.  In the Sleep video the singer is dressed exactly like Ozzy used to with the same hair and also played a Rickenbacker like Geezer used to.  Then you have the Laney amp and a Gibson, I was fully expecting an SG I really was.  I like Sabbath too but I think if you go that far with it you might as well be a cover band.  You can be influenced by a band and play in the "style" of that band without sounding exactly like them.  I haven't listened to any of Sleep's other stuff so I don't know if it's all this way but that video hit the hot button for me.

Again sorry for the hijack, I just want to know if I'm the only one that this angers. :shock:

it's typical of the doom/stoner genre and the vocal stylings do get on my nerves - we already have one Ozzy (well, almost - about 50%).

Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: FernandoDuarte on July 17, 2008, 01:50:59 AM
Great sound!
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on July 17, 2008, 02:38:49 AM
Yeah they are quite sabbathy but it doesnt bother me that much seeing as sabbath without ozzy is cr@p anyway (imo) :)
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: SG Thrasher on July 22, 2008, 01:30:41 PM
Yeah they are quite sabbathy but it doesnt bother me that much seeing as sabbath without ozzy is cr@p anyway (imo) :)
(http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/ronnie-james-dio-tenacious-d-in-the-pick-of-destiny-los-angeles-premiere-vePEJH.jpg)
He'll 'ave ya.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on July 22, 2008, 01:49:34 PM
:lol: good singer but his style doesnt work for sabbath at all..
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: EEF13 on August 12, 2008, 05:05:54 AM
sounds heavy
can the mule handle metal?
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on August 13, 2008, 09:24:57 PM
Yeah probably. I dont really have the best setup for metal so I cant really tell though. I'm useless at dialling in metal tones :\ With a boost its tight enough for anything I've tried to play on it. I think tim used mules in his ozzy tribute band so that says a lot. I'll have a go tomorrow if theres any track in particular you'd like to hear with the mule?
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: sambo on August 14, 2008, 09:48:15 AM
Sounds awesome Tom. In the guy's Matamp version  the bass sounds huge, BUT- your playing and guitar tone is far better.


Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on August 14, 2008, 12:25:39 PM
Cheers sam, I used the same bass track he used but I guess didnt mix it in as much as his. I just listened to the original and it sounds really awkward now after getting used to playing along with these drums, like its slightly out of time, kinda annoys me! Dont people play to a click or anything?
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: Ted on August 14, 2008, 09:26:10 PM
F U C K I N G spot on Tom. Excellent work.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: Ted on August 14, 2008, 09:28:03 PM
I reckon Matamps are very much an acquired taste. I never used to like them, but recently it's just sort of clicked

Ha ha ha  :P
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: aethyria on March 28, 2009, 05:40:57 AM
great clip man! I am a big fan of SLEEP...I wish they were still together. I saw them live in around 1993 or 1994...I had the Holy Mountain album on tape back then...I have it on CD these days...

So you recorded this stuff with the Mules huh?

Sounds great... Do you think you can get the same tone with the abraxas, black dogs or even the cold sweats...
or is the mules the be all end all for this tone?

This reminds me I had a great Sleep t-shirt from when I saw them live but I lost it many years ago..I wish I still had it...it had an astronaut plugged into a bong on it and it glowed in the dark.../

Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: Ian Price on March 30, 2009, 12:34:16 AM
Great stuff Tom. Never heard of Sleep before I listened to this. I may well look them up. The main riff reminded me of Money - not sure what came fist though!
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: _tom_ on April 02, 2009, 10:47:47 AM
Aethyria, I would say the Pig 90 is better for stoner rock stuff. Slightly looser and more stoner rock sounding. Clip of the Pig 90 doing Dragonaut here - http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=493678&songID=6737692

:)
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: aethyria on April 03, 2009, 07:26:52 AM
When you say pig90 do you mean the Mississippi queen p90 or do you mean another p90 that is also available?
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: Madiac on April 03, 2009, 07:58:37 AM
When you say pig90 do you mean the Mississippi queen p90 or do you mean another p90 that is also available?

Hes referring to a more powerful p90 version thats not up on the site, but is available if you ask for it. Its a p90 wound like a Warpig, so its a very hot p90. You can have it both in humbucker format (as a Mississipi queen) and normal p90 format.
Title: Re: Mule bridge doing Dragonaut by Sleep!
Post by: aethyria on April 03, 2009, 09:10:31 AM
OK cool thanks for the information