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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Twinfan on November 09, 2008, 09:11:21 PM
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...I'm a PRS fan boy :lol:
I've been playing a few of my guitars this evening, trying some stuff out, and nothing sounds or feels as good to me for gigging in my rock band as my PRS McCartys. My maple top in particular is a belting guitar. My Mira is great for a brighter, thinner, rock tone but I love the 'chunk' of the McCarty more. The McCarty Korina is a more focused tone and is better for bluesier stuff.
Only my CS Tele gets a look in these days from my non-PRS stable as that just smokes for Fender tones. My SG only gets used for 'DC gigs, as does my LP Special (backup for the SG).
I'm seriously considering chopping in some guitars and getting the ultimate production PRS - a Modern Eagle. Based on the McCarty, they have a Brazilian Rosewood neck and top spec maple/mahogany. I've got bad GAS for this one.....
(http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2347.jpg)
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:cry: :twisted: :wink:
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I'm seriously considering chopping in some guitars and getting the ultimate production PRS - a Modern Eagle. Based on the McCarty, they have a Brazilian Rosewood neck and top spec maple/mahogany. I've got bad GAS for this one.....
Wew all know what happens when you start "seriously considering" things... :wink: I was expecting the thread to be about something you've already bought!
I have to say, though, the Modern Eagle does nothing for me, sorry. I don't like the mix & match gold/nickel hardware or that "faded blue jeans" finish. Or the birds. It's too blingy.
How many arms and legs would that cost?
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It's very blingy yes, I agree. Too blingy for me if I'm honest. I'm really curious about the tone though, is it THAT much better than anything else? I'm planning on taking a trip to Guitars4You in the near future with a few guitars and trying a Modern Eagle out in comparison to my McCarty maple top.
That particular ME is a used 2005 model and it's up for £3899 :o
If I bought one, I'd be gigging it too. MartinW would approve of that part at least ;)
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As I've said before, I think the fact that you actually gig "justifies" your guitar spending more than mine. :oops:
But £3,899!!! :o That's crazy money, I'd never get over the guilt if I spent that much. And I'm not even Catholic. :lol:
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Get the modern eagle. Satisfy your gas. They're insanely good guitars I'm sure.
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:lol:
I'm just mulling it over, trying to justify it to myself in a way. If they really are THAT good, they would be worth the cost. Heartwood East Coast maple top, South American mahogany body, Brazilian rosewood neck and a nitro finish. Doesn't get much better than that...
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Two points:
1. You can't possibly justfy £3.9k for a guitar. :(
2. You don't have to; If you want it and can afford it, get it. :D
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diminishing returns and all that! the more you spend the less extra you get for your money
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Treat yourself and get a good luthier to do a custom build. Everyone should at least once.
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diminishing returns and all that! the more you spend the less extra you get for your money
Yeah, that's true. But people are prepared to pay through the nose for that extra 5%, or 1% or whatever it may be - that's what the luxury goods market is all about really.
I'm the sort of person who buys things to just "do the job". I wear clothes until they fall apart. And I wear a 25 year old Casio watch - because it still works, so why replace it?
I wish I could apply the same logic to guitars...
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not my style at all, and i'd never play it... but i do think that guitar looks really amazing, as it should for the money.
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Whereas I'm the sort of person who wears clothes until they fall apart. And I wear a 25 year old Casio watch - because it still works, so why replace it? I wish I could apply the same logic to guitars...
i think we may be the same there. unfortunatly my 70's seiko has just bitten the dust. still ticking away but i am unable to set the time anymore . currently its 1 hour 5 minutes ahead and 11 days behind
i just wanted to point out that the modern eagle isnt going to be £2.5k better than the PRS's twinfan has. at most it may be 5 - 10% better... which you obviously have to pay a hell of a lot more for.
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That's the problem isn't it? Diminishing returns. I'm fairly old-skool when it comes to tones, as I have some really nice valve amps and a few simple pedals. The basic guitar into amp tone really comes across in my rig, so I would notice the difference more than someone who was very effects heavy (for example). However, that difference comes at a high price :(
With regard to custom builds, they're just not my thing. I like to see and try before I buy.
After doing some simple calculations this morning, I'd have to lose some nice guitars to buy the Eagle, so it's probably not going to happen. I will have to try one out though, for curiosities sake :)
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I will have to try one out though, for curiosities sake :)
and we all know what normally happens when you 'try one out' :lol:
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True! But I don't have £3899 just 'lying around' :roll:
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More importantly, can you afford £7798? Because we all know you'll end up buying two of them ;)
Roo
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Fair enough but your GAS is pretty much an unstoppable force!
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After doing some simple calculations this morning, I'd have to lose some nice guitars to buy the Eagle, so it's probably not going to happen.
TBH, I thought you already had your collection pretty much stripped to the bone after getting the Tele! You must be having to make some tough decisions.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRS-Modern-Eagle-in-slate-blue-Brazilian-Rosewood-NEW_W0QQitemZ220305346236QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220305346236&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
So me sending you details of this one at a mere £2,999 will not help then?
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRS-Modern-Eagle-in-slate-blue-Brazilian-Rosewood-NEW_W0QQitemZ220305346236QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220305346236&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
So me sending you details of this one at a mere £2,999 will not help then?
It's a snip! He's open to offers too! :)
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(http://i20.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/16/6b/a033_1.JPG)
Very tasty guitar that. I like. Haven't got the cash though!
TBH, I thought you already had your collection pretty much stripped to the bone after getting the Tele! You must be having to make some tough decisions.
Not quite to the bone, I've still got 20 guitars :lol:
But when you break it down:
Two Martin acoustics (one six and one twelve string)
Epi SG and LP Junior Lite ('DC guitars)
McCarty maple top / Gordon Smith SG-1 / Kramer Baretta (Doppelganger guitars)
JV Squier Strat (my first electric, going nowhere)
CS Tele / McCarty Korina #1 (going nowhere either!)
Ibanez RG20th / RG550 #1 / RG550 #2 (all in Road Flare Red, and staying!)
And then I already have for sale:
McCarty Korina #2
Signature LP
So that leaves possible guitars to sell:
Jackson Dinky with VHIIs
Ibanez RG770DX in Laser Blue
Les Paul Junior Special singlecut in red
Squier CV Tele
PRS Mira
That would give me about £3500, but I would lose the Mira and Jackson Dinky which I would rather not part with...
Looks like that's the decision made!
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Will keep an eye out on eBay for some bargains!
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Custom :)
Roo
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If I had money I'd help your funding by taking your Dinky and CV Tele away :D
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That would give me about £3500, but I would lose the Mira and Jackson Dinky which I would rather not part with...
I'd be well interested in that Mira if it had a Regular neck :) ... and I had the money :( .
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That would give me about £3500, but I would lose the Mira and Jackson Dinky which I would rather not part with...
I'd be well interested in that Mira if it had a Regular neck :) ... and I had the money :( .
and i'd have been interested in the dinky :) doing my superstrat thing now though, not that its for sale ;)
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There's certainly some Dinky love isn't there?? :lol:
It's a great guitar, but maybe I should sell it...
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This may be fighting talk to a PRS fan, but have you tried an Eggle? Some people prefer them to a PRS and some don't. You could buy loads of them for that sort of money :lol:
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Yep tried one. Didn't like the smaller than PRS body shape ;)
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Managed to try out a Modern Eagle and record a clip for YouTube...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jWvpfJcaZIU
(Sorry, I know it's not fair on the guy...................... :oops: )
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how long ago was it that you hated PRS and maple tops, dave? :twisted:
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Err :oops:
I think I discovered the 25" scale length and a 'good' mahogany and maple guitar.......
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:D
no worries, we all change our tastes, there are plenty of guitar things i hated a while ago which i love now, too. :)
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Now, I admittedly I am not at all a fan of PRS, so take this with a pinch of salt by all means, but;
There's a Modern Eagle in the Brum Soundcontrol/Reverb/Whatever, or at least there was. I think it was an awful guitar, outclassed by pretty much every other higher end guitar in the shop. Maybe it was a cr@p example, but I was startled at how embarrassingly overpriced a guitar could be. The £15,999 Setzer Gretsch was better value for money imo.
and it's got gold AND silver hardware! Buhuh? :?
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Interesting comment. I've read a few reviews and done some research, and there are really mixed opinions on the MEs. Also, I don't know of any artist signature guitar that has a rosewood neck.
Coincidence?
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Managed to try out a Modern Eagle and record a clip for YouTube...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jWvpfJcaZIU
(Sorry, I know it's not fair on the guy...................... :oops: )
PLEASE tell me that's not you? :X
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PLEASE tell me that's not you? :X
That's what I thought - until I listened to the clips on the Martamp site. I then knew it wasn't.
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Managed to try out a Modern Eagle and record a clip for YouTube...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jWvpfJcaZIU
And here's me on my McCarty Korina.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r57-PMZdzIk&NR=1 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r57-PMZdzIk&NR=1)
(Bet you didn't know I had an American accent)
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Managed to try out a Modern Eagle and record a clip for YouTube...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jWvpfJcaZIU
(Sorry, I know it's not fair on the guy...................... :oops: )
PLEASE tell me that's not you? :X
Just to confirm - it's NOT me! That's why I apologised for taking the mick out of the guy who recorded it :oops:
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PLEASE tell me that's not you? :X
That's what I thought - until I listened to the clips on the Martamp site. I then knew it wasn't.
Clips on the Martamp site?????? There are none!
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If there are, no-one told me about it! :o
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wow and I thought I was bad at playing Little Wing :o
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If there are, no-one told me about it! :o
Whoops! My mistake! Somehow I got confused with the guitarist, also called Dave, in the ACDC tribute band. How silly of me!
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Interesting comment. I've read a few reviews and done some research, and there are really mixed opinions on the MEs. Also, I don't know of any artist signature guitar that has a rosewood neck.
Coincidence?
I don't think that has any relevance to be honest, not many people have experience using rosewood for necks, and alot of these signature guitars are made based on the tried tested haves of the guitarist in question.
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Surely some famous guitarists wil be like us and try everything though? Especially the PRS ones when they visit the factory? And no-one has chosen to have one?
I read that rosewood necks seem to work better with P90s and clean to crunch tones as they can give a slight mid 'scoop'. Would make sense. That may have cured my GAS...
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Talking of rosewood I do like this:
http://guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail_huge.asp?id=6996&catid=71&quantity=1&manid=125&product=Fender+Telecaster+%28USA%29++Masterbuilt+Custom+Shop+Rosewood+Tele+%2707%2C+Natural%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case+COA (http://guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail_huge.asp?id=6996&catid=71&quantity=1&manid=125&product=Fender+Telecaster+%28USA%29++Masterbuilt+Custom+Shop+Rosewood+Tele+%2707%2C+Natural%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case+COA)
I imagine Roo would like this.
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I've never really been a fan of PRS although some of them do look the sex. That said, I really like the sound that the guy from Opeth gets from his, and I have been curious about trying one of the Korina body PRS just for tonal research. :)
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I think the Opeth guys use a variety of models, possibly even the Modern Eagle.
You're welcome to buy my spare McCarty Korina in the name of 'research' ;)
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As a man who lives constantly in his overdraft, I'm afraid I must respectfully decline. :P
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Talking of rosewood I do like this:
http://guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail_huge.asp?id=6996&catid=71&quantity=1&manid=125&product=Fender+Telecaster+%28USA%29++Masterbuilt+Custom+Shop+Rosewood+Tele+%2707%2C+Natural%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case+COA (http://guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail_huge.asp?id=6996&catid=71&quantity=1&manid=125&product=Fender+Telecaster+%28USA%29++Masterbuilt+Custom+Shop+Rosewood+Tele+%2707%2C+Natural%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case+COA)
I imagine Roo would like this.
WOWWW!
Sod Roo - he can get his own!!! (to pour scorn over no doubt) :lol:
That is the sexiest looking guitar pic I have seen in many a long month...
A rosewood tele is what I wanted for many many years before I actually owned a tele, or any guitar at all possibly, not sure when this was, but I was small... (something to do with Beatles I suspect, but I'm not sure...).
It is NOT worth £3,299.00 to me though :lol:
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That is the sexiest looking guitar pic I have seen in many a long month...
A rosewood tele is what I wanted for many many years before I actually owned a tele, or any guitar at all possibly, not sure when this was, but I was small... (something to do with Beatles I suspect, but I'm not sure...).
Never actually wanted one, but I've always thought they look great. Apparently it's like hanging the QE2 anchor round your neck, though...
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That is the sexiest looking guitar pic I have seen in many a long month...
A rosewood tele is what I wanted for many many years before I actually owned a tele, or any guitar at all possibly, not sure when this was, but I was small... (something to do with Beatles I suspect, but I'm not sure...).
Never actually wanted one, but I've always thought they look great. Apparently it's like hanging the QE2 anchor round your neck, though...
There was one (might still be) in the Brum SC, now, admittedly I'm a man who gigs Parker Flys bt jesus, it was not a gigging guitar! :lol:
Sounded fandabydosy though, if not very Fendery.
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Dude, you want this, and after 6 months sell it to me for 60%
:O)
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Nah, I don't like hollowbodies!
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But my question is would you put BK p/us in if you ever got one, or leave it like it is.? And which ones would match i t best?
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I haven't put BKPs in my PRSi, and have no intention to either. I like the stock PRS pickups :oops:
VHIIs would work well though I think...
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That is the sexiest looking guitar pic I have seen in many a long month...
Bah Humbug!!
something to do with Beatles I suspect, but I'm not sure...
Ahhhh, it all makes sense ;)
Roo
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I haven't put BKPs in my PRSi, and have no intention to either. I like the stock PRS pickups :oops:
VHIIs would work well though I think...
Yes, it's been mentioned on the forum many times that VHIIs are a good match for PRS guitars, but there's nowt wrong with the PRS pickups unless you want something drastically different.
Having said that I am thinking of beefing up my Mira with a Cold Sweat set :P . Or maybe a CS bridge and something a bit warmer in the neck, to compensate for the 24 frets.
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MQ would work well Phil? I find the Mira does lack some warmth, but it takes gain really well. A vintage styled and feeling guitar for modern tones - that's how I find it.
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RE: BKPs in PRSi
I can vouch for the Abraxas set in a PRS :D
With a 3-way toggle and a push/pull coil tap for the neck humbucker only, 5 very nice tones available :)
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MQ would work well Phil? I find the Mira does lack some warmth, but it takes gain really well. A vintage styled and feeling guitar for modern tones - that's how I find it.
Yeah, that's a good description. I think I want to rock the Mira up a bit, since the McKorina covers vintage tones so nicely. And most of my guitars are in the vintage/vintage hot bracket, come to think of it.
MQ in the neck with the CS bridge? That could be good! :)
Then again, I was thinking of wiring it with a 5-way superswitch (the 3-way-plus-miniswitch annoys me a bit) so a neck humbucker would give the most versatile wiring. Everyone raves about the CS neck, but I suspect it may be a bit too "modern" for me - I might go back to the Abraxas neck, as Brow has mentioned. Shouldn't have sold the one I had...
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Apparently it's like hanging the QE2 anchor round your neck...
Just looking at the Warmoth site and came across this Rosewood tele body. Check out the weight!
http://www.warmoth.com/showcase/sc_guitar_bodies.cfm?type=guitar&itemNumber=PT1047&menuItem=2&subMenuItem=0&subMenuItem2=0
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Apparently it's like hanging the QE2 anchor round your neck...
Just looking at the Warmoth site and came across this Rosewood tele body. Check out the weight!
http://www.warmoth.com/showcase/sc_guitar_bodies.cfm?type=guitar&itemNumber=PT1047&menuItem=2&subMenuItem=0&subMenuItem2=0
Ouch!!! :x :o
That would be around the 12 pound mark with a neck and pickups!
I was looking at Tele bodies on there yesterday. I usually sort them by weight - I obviously gave up long before I reached that one! I'd be wanting about half that body weight.
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That Tele is stunning but what a waste of rosewood!
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Oh don't you start dissing Teles and all :lol:
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You called, m'lud?
:D
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aaaagh, I am off to the cricket club for a pint and a game of pool.
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there's an all rosewood les paul in the showcase too!
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Not wishing to sound like a tree hugger but....
Rosewood is meant for fingerboards and inlays and pretty fings and stuff - not Tele bodies!
Mike
PS - I like Teles!
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Not wishing to sound like a tree hugger but....
Rosewood is meant for fingerboards and inlays and pretty fings and stuff - not Tele bodies!
Mike
PS - I like Teles!
And here was me thinking it was a tree! Guitars are relatively young instruments, and I've seen rosewood bodied acoustics often. No reason why it shouldn't be used in guitar bodies other than it's weight.