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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: rimsky on November 19, 2008, 05:07:21 PM

Title: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: rimsky on November 19, 2008, 05:07:21 PM
Hello there!
I'm a new BKP tone soldier. :P
Just loaded my 1978'SG with WARPIG and now waitin' for my PIG-90 to complete the  piggy gibbo)
For a few times I wanted to start a topic about pickups but...whatever..so now is the time.
I'm looking to get a new amp for my rehersal room and i'm in the sad blace between the Rivera KR-100 and Krank Rev.
So I wonder what you guys have to say about this.

P.S.Amp Is for:1) Sabbath\Crowbar\Down oriented stuff 2)some bluesy stuff too
P.S.S Thanks for your kickass clips and helpful topics!
I'm from Russia so you have to forgive me for my lame english :)
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: MDV on November 19, 2008, 05:45:14 PM
Is

Niether

And

Bogner Uberschall

An acceptable answer?
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on November 19, 2008, 05:55:54 PM
Is

Niether

And

Bogner Uberschall

An acceptable answer?
You read my mind, lol
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 19, 2008, 07:39:55 PM
Pah! Up with the Koch!
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: MDV on November 19, 2008, 07:42:44 PM
Great minds and all that!

Johnny, I only suggested the Uber because its got an ultra-heavy-marshall vibe thats perfect for those bands. I'm sure, as always, that you Koch is wonderfull, and if you say it can deliver the goods, I believe you, but I'm afraid I've had no experience of your Koch, so I couldnt possibly comment!
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: noodleplugerine on November 19, 2008, 07:52:09 PM
Johnny's koch is alot more flexible.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: MDV on November 19, 2008, 07:53:17 PM
Johnny's koch is alot more flexible.

I hear it can go pretty much anywhere you want it.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: noodleplugerine on November 19, 2008, 11:19:37 PM
Johnny's koch is alot more flexible.

I hear it can go pretty much anywhere you want it.

Yep. But its too big for bedroom use.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: MrBump on November 20, 2008, 06:45:29 AM
PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE don't let this degenerate into a "Koch" thread..!

Welcome, Russian friend - please ignore the childish penis jokes...
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on November 20, 2008, 08:03:29 AM
Penis jokes!? PDT_023

You've got it all wrong.  The Koch is a very flexible unit that can go anywhere but unfortunately has too much headroom for the bedroom(isn't that a Jason Becker song?:P).

However:

"Concerns
Right side of rear panel is only secured to the chassis with double-stick adhesive, and is vulnerable to separation when the chassis is out of the cabinet."

I too would be concerned if the rear panel of my Koch was only secured with adhesive!  Johnny is this a problem for you or do you just never take the chassis out of the cabinet?
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: MDV on November 20, 2008, 09:49:45 AM
Welcome russian dude!

Dont ignore the Koch jokes. Join in! Johnny likes it when people talk about his koch.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: the_bleeding on November 20, 2008, 05:41:17 PM
down, sabbath and crowbar?

ubershall would be a great idea.

I've also heard a jcm900 get VERY close
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: Johnny Mac on November 20, 2008, 08:57:23 PM
I've never had to dismantle my Koch's chassis from its cabinet. Dissected I must say from photographs, it does look mighty impressive. It can also be modified to take 6L6 valves or others and is a breeze to bias from a DIY point of view, so I understand it. Yes my Koch's flexibility is incredible going from very soft clean & pleasant  to rock hard and tight as f*ck gaining aggression as I turn my Koch's knob. For the harder Marshall sounds my Koch can achieve these by simply using a Marshall Cabinet if the Koch's cabinet  of these requirements are not to your liking. Koch's speakers are made by Jensen with input by Koch. My amps headroom is massive for my bedroom running 120w rms into a 4 x12 cab at 4ohms is something to behold. Such is the power of my koch I can feel it plummeling my liver. So an attenuator is in order. Trust me you will love it.
It also does the bluesy stuff real nice. Two different gain channels you see. With lower output pickups the differences are stark but units like war pigs and miracle mans they drive them into huge amounts of gain, the normal gain channel which is more like a marshall has a massive low end kick to it.

http://www.koch-amps.com/upload/documents/PDFs/Powertone-II-manual.pdf


The new Koch Supernova is very well specced
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: rimsky on November 22, 2008, 10:31:02 AM
Thanks a lot.I'll check out a bogner this week.I saw some youtube vids and it sounded too modern(for my ear).
Is there any owners of RIVERA KR-100?
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: Jonny on November 22, 2008, 04:49:52 PM
There's lots of KR 100 videos on YouTube

Having looked up the Uberschall on YouTube too, blimey! :o
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: rimsky on November 22, 2008, 06:36:51 PM
yup,you could get the "idea" of the sound from youtube vids..nothin more.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: hunter on November 22, 2008, 10:00:00 PM
Obvious choice would be a Marshall, wouldn't it?

Or what about a Bogner XTC?

Personally I am no big fan of Riveras (once owned a Knucklehead), but would take one over a Krank.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: broken cord on November 23, 2008, 03:37:28 AM
I'll have to back Jonny up here with a nod towards the Koch. I only have the Koch Studiotone, which is only
18-20 watts but is has a unique sound. However, I still like my 65 Amps London 18 , which has a Marshall sounding side and a AC30 sounding side: Rock versatile but not brutal.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: the_bleeding on November 23, 2008, 03:46:18 AM
its funny because down and mastodon use jcm800 and jcm900's.

Bloodmountain however was done with mesas.

For remission, lifesblood and leviathan, it was just a tubescreamer into a jcm800. Thats IT.
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: Jonny on November 23, 2008, 12:16:24 PM
Obvious choice would be a Marshall, wouldn't it?

Or what about a Bogner XTC?

Personally I am no big fan of Riveras (once owned a Knucklehead), but would take one over a Krank.
Why didn't you like the Knucklehead, hunter? Too heavy?
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: rimsky on November 23, 2008, 12:23:52 PM
Obvious choice would be a Marshall, wouldn't it?

Or what about a Bogner XTC?

Personally I am no big fan of Riveras (once owned a Knucklehead), but would take one over a Krank.

Yep,It would be great if you'll share some details :)
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: hunter on November 23, 2008, 11:07:09 PM
It was too tight and harsh in the high frequencies. I kept getting buzzing ears after rehearsal, but had the feeling I hadn't heard myself well while playing.

It's just in the face, not in the chest/stomach, as I prefer...
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: Jonny on November 23, 2008, 11:41:41 PM
It's just in the face, not in the chest/stomach, as I prefer...
:lol:
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: MDV on November 24, 2008, 08:07:40 AM
It's just in the face, not in the chest/stomach, as I prefer...
:lol:

And the bar lowers further still

Good work that man!!

:lol:
Title: Re: Krank Rev vs. Rivera KR-100
Post by: rimsky on November 25, 2008, 10:30:55 AM
It's just in the face, not in the chest/stomach, as I prefer...

What's about Rivera M-100(S-120)?