Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: FernandoDuarte on December 19, 2008, 07:10:24 PM
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Hello guys!
Here are my two current projects, with a help from a luthier friend:
Warmoth L5S body going deep set neck... (Pics of it original attached in the end of the post)
Specs:
Body: Black Korina w/ Birdseye Maple Top
Neck: Brazilian Rosewood with Ziricote fingerboard and matching head cap
Pickups: The Mules AIV
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3116/3116496233_5d050663da.jpg?v=0)
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Modern shapped Telecaster for my friend Daniel "Britadeira"
Body: Mahogany with Spalted/burly Maple (forgot to take pictures, as soon as I get I'll post)
Neck: Wenge set-thru ('till bridge) with Ziricote Fingerboard and spalted veneer on headstock.
Pickups: Will try to find a used set of BKP as the guy will buy the parts and has not much money :? Tim suggested Crawler bridge with Storm Monday neck
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Won't be very fast as he lives in São Paulo and I work in shifts, so I need to have a free day that matches with the day he is all day in the workshop (he also works on a guitar making school), but hope we finish it by January, March... Then will think about a Spalty Randy Rhoads or Black Korina Bass or........ :lol:
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Modern shaped telecaster :(
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Blaspemy!!!!!!!!
Wood looks nice though :D
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:D hehehehe
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Nice! So will it be a glued neck on the L5S, Fernando?
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really like the L5S- reminds me a little of a carvin.
Undecided about the tele...
:)
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Nice! So will it be a glued neck on the L5S, Fernando?
Yes! :twisted:
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looks sweet :D
never really heard of Ziricote fingerboards before!? What are they like!?
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looks sweet :D
never really heard of Ziricote fingerboards before!? What are they like!?
Tonewise it's in between of Ebony and Brazilian Rosewood, this is the Warmoth's description:
"This dark gray to brown to black wood is similar to ebony in weight and density. Some pieces have gorgeous striping and spider web grain patterns. The feel is buttery smooth and slick. The density translates to great sustain and the tone is considered to be much like Brazilian Rosewood. Limited availability and a bit expensive."
Look wise, it's fantastic... You can see on the 4th picture mine and others:
(http://sheppardguitars.com/Ziricote%20Back%20%20small.jpg)
(http://sexauerluthier.com/lutepics/Woodlocker/ziricote1.jpg)
Mind that these pictures are kind like 5A figuration :D
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When you glued the headstock on. Aren't the pieces going to slide?
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wow! yeah, I guess the "and a bit expensive" might be why I hadn't heard of it!
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When you glued the headstock on. Aren't the pieces going to slide?
Here this friend uses to hammer on a small nail in the part of the headstock that will be cut off... Don't know how Jonathan and Wez do it... Perhaps they do it in a better way...
wow! yeah, I guess the "and a bit expensive" might be why I hadn't heard of it!
A back/side set is about US$200, fingerboards are US$20... not cheap, it's more expensive than 5A flamed and birdseye maple... but it's ok... So nice 8)
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It's a bit difficult (for me that is) to think of a solution, but you just have to make a block of wood that will stop any force (inc. gravity) that would push it over the time that you let it set for.
I'm no genius (but I like learning this stuff) but hopefully Wez or Jonathan can chip in on how they do it.
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The biggest problem isn't gravity in my opnion (mind that it's the first time I did it), is the force of the clamps... the glue make it as slippery as KY :lol: when you go tightening the clamps it makes an angular force (the headstock is anguled and you can only put it streight to the neck OR the headstock) and this is the problem... Looking forward to see how prof guys do it! :D
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It should be ok I think.... :? I believe a lot of acoustic guitars are done like that? I just get a thicker piece of wood so that I can naturally get the angle for the headstock out of the wood...
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It should be ok I think.... :? I believe a lot of acoustic guitars are done like that? I just get a thicker piece of wood so that I can naturally get the angle for the headstock out of the wood...
Yes, it's... We are talking about when you glue it... the glue is slippery and you've to take care to make sure it's hold tight while the glue is still wet... After it dries, it's just fine :D
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It should be ok I think.... :? I believe a lot of acoustic guitars are done like that? I just get a thicker piece of wood so that I can naturally get the angle for the headstock out of the wood...
Yes, it's... We are talking about when you glue it... the glue is slippery and you've to take care to make sure it's hold tight while the glue is still wet... After it dries, it's just fine :D
yes, that and glue seeping everywhere - so you're trying to get the two bits stuck together and not getting the clamps and such covered in glue (well, at least that's the problem I always have! :lol:)
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To me, if the woods get stuck fine, to hell with the glue on clamps... three pints of glue on it :lol:
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i dont think jonathan does many scarfed headstocks, not sure though
i do them sometimes - havnt for a while though because i am mainly doing laminated necks at the moment
no special tricks for it though, sometimes pin, sometimes wedge shaped clamping cauls... i do have a jig that holds both pieces in place but i am not sure it works much better than the simple methods
personally i think a well done scarf join (i.e, done with a bit more care than the cheapo guitars with scarfed necks) is superior in strength to a neck cut from one piece... but laminating is also stronger and helps stability in the whole neck... and it looks prettier than the other two
PS. Interesting headstock FE, looks like a cross between mine and Ken lawrences - hope you have worked out the string paths and tuner locations
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i dont think jonathan does many scarfed headstocks, not sure though
i do them sometimes - havnt for a while though because i am mainly doing laminated necks at the moment
no special tricks for it though, sometimes pin, sometimes wedge shaped clamping cauls... i do have a jig that holds both pieces in place but i am not sure it works much better than the simple methods
personally i think a well done scarf join (i.e, done with a bit more care than the cheapo guitars with scarfed necks) is superior in strength to a neck cut from one piece... but laminating is also stronger and helps stability in the whole neck... and it looks prettier than the other two
PS. Interesting headstock FE, looks like a cross between mine and Ken lawrences - hope you have worked out the string paths and tuner locations
I had, but then the previous luthier that I asked to cut the woods lost the drawn for me :rock: And the morrow didn't cut it, took about two months and "can't do it now", only did the fingerboard slots and asked big money for it... :evil:
Now will be more like when the nut is done... unfortunatelly... :cry:
Yes, it's kind yours, KL, esp... It's very hard find a new design exclusevely and nice :?
It was supposed to be a neck-thru, but this Wenge I bought here in BR from the only guy who has it and it's 45mm thick... so wouldn't work... next time I'll buy from abroad, then the guys will have it at 6cm or more, but will be damn expensive :( But will be able to do neck-thru and laminates...
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Yes, it's kind yours, KL, esp... It's very hard find a new design exclusevely and nice :?
dont forget the new guitar hero controller!! ;)
it is hard to come up with original shapes... i thought i had done it till i realised it was almost identical to a dan armstrong plexi guitar :? i guess i unconsiously used it as inspiration but i am still willing to cite it as inspiration because i cannot deny being a fan of those guitars even though i hadnt seen one in years when i drew the headstock shape
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That's the original design I sent to my friend, he chosed letter A, it was a couple of days before you posted the finished Ventura, then I saw it looked very like yours and I talked with the guy and tryed to changed it, make it more "slim"...
I'm going to work on it changing it more as it is not that different... Let's see what happens
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Yes, it's kind yours, KL, esp... It's very hard find a new design exclusevely and nice :?
dont forget the new guitar hero controller!! ;)
it is hard to come up with original shapes... i thought i had done it till i realised it was almost identical to a dan armstrong plexi guitar :? i guess i unconsiously used it as inspiration but i am still willing to cite it as inspiration because i cannot deny being a fan of those guitars even though i hadnt seen one in years when i drew the headstock shape
One of the bodies in Guitar Hero is Ravelle-esque shaped.
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looks sweet :D
never really heard of Ziricote fingerboards before!? What are they like!?
They are somewhere between rosewood and ebony in sound (very subtle difference though), but they do have the attack of an ebony fingerboard. I have one on my Wez SG. They also look very nice and the grain is much more obvious than ebony but they can also have some great burl patterns in them. If you check on the warmoth web site they use it and give you a description too.
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After the advice of Wez about the tuners position and how the string would be after the nut (the mate is a little freak about 100% straight strings) I had to change a little the draw of the headstock...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3076/3160922410_6fff5fe1c8.jpg?v=0)
With luck next week I'll be able to apoint the they it will hit the saw :twisted: