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FernandoDuarte

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Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« on: December 19, 2008, 07:10:24 PM »
Hello guys!

Here are my two current projects, with a help from a luthier friend:

Warmoth L5S body going deep set neck... (Pics of it original attached in the end of the post)
Specs:
Body: Black Korina w/ Birdseye Maple Top
Neck: Brazilian Rosewood with Ziricote fingerboard and matching head cap
Pickups: The Mules AIV







Modern shapped Telecaster for my friend Daniel "Britadeira"
Body: Mahogany with Spalted/burly Maple (forgot to take pictures, as soon as I get I'll post)
Neck: Wenge set-thru ('till bridge) with Ziricote Fingerboard and spalted veneer on headstock.
Pickups: Will try to find a used set of BKP as the guy will buy the parts and has not much money :? Tim suggested Crawler bridge with Storm Monday neck






Won't be very fast as he lives in São Paulo and I work in shifts, so I need to have a free day that matches with the day he is all day in the workshop (he also works on a guitar making school), but hope we finish it by January, March... Then will think about a Spalty Randy Rhoads or Black Korina Bass or........ :lol:
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tomjackson

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2008, 09:40:59 PM »
Modern shaped telecaster :(

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Blaspemy!!!!!!!!

Wood looks nice though :D
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FernandoDuarte

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2008, 09:48:32 PM »
:D hehehehe
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Philly Q

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2008, 10:22:54 PM »
Nice!  So will it be a glued neck on the L5S, Fernando?
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dave_mc

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2008, 10:27:20 PM »
really like the L5S- reminds me a little of a carvin.

Undecided about the tele...

:)
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FernandoDuarte

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2008, 11:04:40 PM »
Quote from: Philly Q on December 19, 2008, 10:22:54 PM
Nice!  So will it be a glued neck on the L5S, Fernando?

Yes! :twisted:
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rohlfo

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2008, 11:08:59 PM »
looks sweet  :D
never really heard of Ziricote fingerboards before!? What are they like!?
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FernandoDuarte

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2008, 11:15:44 PM »
Quote from: rohlfo on December 19, 2008, 11:08:59 PM
looks sweet  :D
never really heard of Ziricote fingerboards before!? What are they like!?

Tonewise it's in between of Ebony and Brazilian Rosewood, this is the Warmoth's description:
"This dark gray to brown to black wood is similar to ebony in weight and density. Some pieces have gorgeous striping and spider web grain patterns. The feel is buttery smooth and slick. The density translates to great sustain and the tone is considered to be much like Brazilian Rosewood. Limited availability and a bit expensive."

Look wise, it's fantastic... You can see on the 4th picture mine and others:




Mind that these pictures are kind like 5A figuration :D
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Jonny

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2008, 11:49:42 PM »
When you glued the headstock on. Aren't the pieces going to slide?
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rohlfo

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2008, 12:14:45 AM »
wow! yeah, I guess the "and a bit expensive" might be why I hadn't heard of it!
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FernandoDuarte

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2008, 12:31:28 AM »
Quote from: Jonny on December 19, 2008, 11:49:42 PM
When you glued the headstock on. Aren't the pieces going to slide?

Here this friend uses to hammer on a small nail in the part of the headstock that will be cut off... Don't know how Jonathan and Wez do it... Perhaps they do it in a better way...

Quote from: rohlfo on December 20, 2008, 12:14:45 AM
wow! yeah, I guess the "and a bit expensive" might be why I hadn't heard of it!

A back/side set is about US$200, fingerboards are US$20... not cheap, it's more expensive than 5A flamed and birdseye maple... but it's ok... So nice 8)
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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2008, 01:21:52 PM »
It's a bit difficult (for me that is) to think of a solution, but you just have to make a block of wood that will stop any force (inc. gravity) that would push it over the time that you let it set for.

I'm no genius (but I like learning this stuff) but hopefully Wez or Jonathan can chip in on how they do it.
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FernandoDuarte

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2008, 01:59:00 PM »
The biggest problem isn't gravity in my opnion (mind that it's the first time I did it), is the force of the clamps... the glue make it as slippery as KY :lol: when you go tightening the clamps it makes an angular force (the headstock is anguled and you can only put it streight to the neck OR the headstock) and this is the problem... Looking forward to see how prof guys do it! :D
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rohlfo

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2008, 02:20:34 PM »
It should be ok I think.... :? I believe a lot of acoustic guitars are done like that? I just get a thicker piece of wood so that I can naturally get the angle for the headstock out of the wood...
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FernandoDuarte

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Re: Guiltar Building and Modifying!
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2008, 02:55:06 PM »
Quote from: rohlfo on December 20, 2008, 02:20:34 PM
It should be ok I think.... :? I believe a lot of acoustic guitars are done like that? I just get a thicker piece of wood so that I can naturally get the angle for the headstock out of the wood...

Yes, it's... We are talking about when you glue it... the glue is slippery and you've to take care to make sure it's hold tight while the glue is still wet... After it dries, it's just fine :D
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