Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: PPPMAT on January 19, 2009, 01:58:47 PM
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For all those about to go for a Gibson of any kind - in the next week or so it will cost you 10% more as the prices are going up. Something to do with Gordon Brown apparently :shock:
So I have the decision to make as to whether I go for the 335 I want now or wait until I can comfortably afford it and shell out another £200.
hmmm
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Same with PRS and Fender as well. Any new USA stock coming over is going to be hit by the fall in the exchange rate :(
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Or buy a 2nd hand one......
Seriously the collapse in the pound against both the dollar and the Euro is having a bad effect on the guitar trade generally. We are finding that the cost of spares has gone up significantly.
Perhaps we should try manufacturing some things in the UK again! That's a novel idea!
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Buy a Legra instead! 8)
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sadly its not that simple, cant speak for bob but most of my suppliers are either in america or getting there stock largely from america. a company like allparts.uk.com for instance has recently increased anything that comes from allparts USA or Mojo musical supply by 10%
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Good job I'm trying to have a no-new-guitars year!
Although I have noticed the increase in the price of parts, unfortunately.
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sadly its not that simple, cant speak for bob but most of my suppliers are either in america or getting there stock largely from america. a company like allparts.uk.com for instance has recently increased anything that comes from allparts USA or Mojo musical supply by 10%
Absolutely. We are having the same problem.
We buy parts from Europe and the US. Virtually no guitar amp parts are made in the UK. We get our custom transformers wound in the UK, but the parts for these will have to come from outside the UK (and M6 EI lams are getting very expensive). We also use a British speaker manufacturer. We use PTFE sheet made in the UK. However all other parts, valves, caps resistors etc are simply not made here.
I suspect most wood for guitars is sourced out side the UK too.
The idea that a low pound helps UK manufacturing because exports are now better priced is weighed against the fact that materials and parts now cost more.
Sadly we just don't make much in the UK anymore. Mind you try getting anyone interested in making anything in the UK is hard.........
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Don't worry, VAT has decreased :roll:
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Well I might have to bite the bullet - I've found a figured top cherry red 335 for under £1700 which is a bargain
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Same with PRS and Fender as well. Any new USA stock coming over is going to be hit by the fall in the exchange rate :(
Bollocks bollocks bollocks bollocks! :x The only 3 things I have GAS for on the guitar front are a US Deluxe HSS Strat, and Jim Root Tele and a PRS Custom 24. Looks like a no-guitar year for me then... :(
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Good job I'm trying to have a no-new-guitars year!
Choking noises...
Mind you, I'm saying the same thing at the moment - and I even believe it when I say it :roll:
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Must be something in this "no new guitars year". I'm thinking the same too.
I wonder who'#ll crack first? :lol:
My money's on Phil.....
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does putting together guitars partly from parts brought last year count as a new guitar?
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^ That'll be Phil's, er, "explanation"
I suspect it might be you Dave :lol:
I have to put in a caveat on mine - this was agreed with Mrs R a while back - a Japanese 62 reissue strat in sunburst, if found, and if gorgeous, is likely to be bought on a whim... otherwise, now I'm actually creating stuff with my little lot, I feel quite satisfied with what I've got...
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does putting together guitars partly from parts brought last year count as a new guitar?
NO, because I'll be doing a lot of that! :lol:
Must be something in this "no new guitars year". I'm thinking the same too.
I wonder who'#ll crack first? :lol:
My money's on Phil.....
Mine's on you Dave! :lol:
I'll only crack if I find one of the following reduced below, oooh, £1,000:
1. Gibson ES-339
2. Fender Heavy Relic Strat or Tele (and it'd have to be a good one!)
3. Feline Emerald Lion (I can dream, can't I?)
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Back in Nov 2007 it peaked at $2.16 dollars per £, today it is around $1.46 dollars per £. I was interested in getting a Ceriatone kit - these are directly priced in US $ - if I bought one today it would be 44.9% more expensive than if I had bought it back in Nov 2007.
I have read that after the Obama 'honeymoon period' the dollar is expected to fall in value. Also America, Canada and Mexico are supposedly well on track to introducing the Amero which will be a common currency which will replace the individual country currencies (i.e. like the Euro) and the value of the dollar is expected to fall before the Amero is introduced. ( Lots of detail on this - search 'amero' in google and youtube ) Apparently Bush has already signed up for this without consulting Congress :twisted:
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I thought the Amero was just a conspiracy theory.
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For years the £ was worth around $1.6 then the $ fell and the £ grew stronger and indeed in the last 18 months it peaked at well over $2 to the £. So in reality things are not far off from where they were up to 2 years or so ago. The Euro has, meantime, been rising against both the £ & the $. The next year will be interesting as there are rumours of some countries leaving the Euro. How they manage that will be very interesting as I think only one country has an exit strategy.
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From what I have read it looks as if it's likely to be introduced - perhaps Obama might want to stop it?
If you look at some of the Youtube videos on the Amero (and the general USA financial system) it is really scary - even if only partly true.
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^ yeah, but if they're the kind of conspiracy videos i'm thinking of, there's a good chance they're 0% true.
back when the exchange rate was good, one explanation given for the high prices of US-made gear was that they "had to hedge their bets against currency fluctuations". It's not that long ago that the pound was at a similar rate versus the dollar as it is now (1:1.5. or so), and i didn't notice the prices falling too much when the dollar fell to two per pound...
:roll:
not talking about the little guys like feline, legra etc., but the big guys seem to want to have their cake and eat it too.
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I don't think it'll be long before Gibson end up like PRS, where you can import CU22/24s and the higher end models, get hit with maximum duty charges and still pay less than what SOUNDCONTROL paid for one at trade.
That was a frightening day when we were trying to price one for a collegue :lol:
EDIT: Admittedly, we worked that out when I was working in the Brum store, so between February and June of last year, when the pound was quite a bit stronger meaning importing was obviously cheaper than now.
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Mine's on you Dave! :lol:
I'll only crack if I find one of the following reduced below, oooh, £1,000:
1. Gibson ES-339
2. Fender Heavy Relic Strat or Tele (and it'd have to be a good one!)
3. Feline Emerald Lion (I can dream, can't I?)
So that's two votes for me cracking then! :lol: I must have a reputation...
Phil - don't look at this ;)
Nash Tele - £999 - http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2564.htm
(http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2564d.jpg)
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Well I just bought Adam's Ibanez MTM2, does that mean I'm the first?
Haven't bought a brand new guitar though. But I doubt I won't be in the top ten of those who crack.
Crikey! - http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2366.htm
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Phil - don't look at this ;)
Nash Tele - £999 - http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2564.htm
I'm not looking!
Well OK I did :wink: . I was never impressed by the (pictures of) Nash guitars I've seen in the past, I didn't think the relicing looked very good. But that's a nice one.
But still, it's basically an Allparts Tele... so there's no reason it should be any better than my (almost-in-progress) Warmoth body/Fender neck contraption. Unless Bill Nash gets to pick out the very best Allparts necks and bodies.
Not cracking yet! :lol:
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Well I just bought Adam's Ibanez MTM2, does that mean I'm the first?
It does if you were planning not to buy any guitars this year! :)
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Well I just bought Adam's Ibanez MTM2, does that mean I'm the first?
It does if you were planning not to buy any guitars this year! :)
I wasn't supposed to, no, but it was a tasty offer, lol
But for the books, I'll say I was looking for a guitar since it doesn't really put a good image down, it should be some ££££ Fender Relic or something, not a MTM2 or even an Ibanez, lol..
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Phil - don't look at this ;)
Nash Tele - £999 - http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/guitars/2564.htm
I'm not looking!
Well OK I did :wink: . I was never impressed by the (pictures of) Nash guitars I've seen in the past, I didn't think the relicing looked very good. But that's a nice one.
But still, it's basically an Allparts Tele... so there's no reason it should be any better than my (almost-in-progress) Warmoth body/Fender neck contraption. Unless Bill Nash gets to pick out the very best Allparts necks and bodies.
Not cracking yet! :lol:
A mate of mine has a Nash Strat and a Nash Tele, and the relic'ing on both is what i'd describe as 'aggressive' - it looks good though, and the attention to detail is fantastic. A bit over the top for me, but of course that's just my opinion :)
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Hopefully the dollar keeps rising. Previously I put a Black Dog bridge covered, Mule Neck covered in the cart, and it would have cost me over $440! Now, it would cost me about $300! I'm definitely going to get some soon.
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I guess that's another plus for Marshall, isn't it?
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Must be something in this "no new guitars year". I'm thinking the same too.
I wonder who'#ll crack first? :lol:
My money's on Phil.....
Aw cr@p. It was me :(