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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Crazy_Joe on February 08, 2009, 01:42:20 PM
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As you may have guessed, i am bored. But yeah i was thinking about this and decided that the acoustic singer songwriter thing gets the most. If you play a girl a tune on an acoustic and sing to it then you're officially in.
BTW the poll excludes mainstream pop stuff because girls will obviously go for that just for the money.
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The one reason I'm GASing for an acoustic.
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You forgot Indie. If you're dedicated enough dress like a girl and sings songs about how 'loverly' girls are then you deserve all the action you can get. Unfortunately you also deserve a kick in the balls.
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I feel a bit "old" for this now, but when I was gigging, playing blues/rock in pubs did attract wimins, but the singer/songwriter thing in the bedsit was far more effective :lol:
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This reminded me of a lovely little quote at the end of the DVD documentary / tutorial ' An Evening With Joe Pass' :
You see the little old guy himself enjoying a cigar outside the theatre he had just been playing at - and he jovially / paternally shouts out to this young 'shredder' :
" learn a few tunes , son - you won't get a girlfriend playing scales "... :wink:
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Sensitive singer-songwriter stuff, undoubtedly. :)
It sure as hell ain't insane guitar w**kery.
Goth and Emo probably aren't bad either, but you're more likely to bond over a bit of self-harming than get any red hot trouser action. :|
And don't "LOL" too much over Country... I reckon you'd do OK if you're into attractive but care-worn single-mom waitresses who upped sticks and moved to a trailer park to get away from their abusive mean-drunk ex-husbands.
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:lol: that's class Fourth Feline - if I wasn't already happy with my sig/etc, I'd be nicking that...
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Singer songwriter definatly! Chicks seem to flock to that stuff. If you can play hallelujah and sing it, you're in!
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For a certain age ('fraid it's us Philly), you don't need to play even, just put some smart casual on and go to a Donny Osmond concert - there is LOADS of wimin there and you can take your pick, on the basis of just showing up!
I took the wife a few years back, Hammy Apollo - it was actually really good, btw. During the interval she wanted a loo break, so I stood in the upstairs foyer waiting - twas a wonderful experience, it was packed, I was the only male there, and I was the complete centre of attention :lol: (Of course, if I'd been single it would have been entirely different :roll:)
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This reminded me of a lovely little quote at the end of the DVD documentary / tutorial ' An Evening With Joe Pass' :
You see the little old guy himself enjoying a cigar outside the theatre he had just been playing at - and he jovially / paternally shouts out to this young 'shredder' :
" learn a few tunes , son - you won't get a girlfriend playing scales "... :wink:
God, Joe Pass was so cool. I don't really enjoy listening to that kind of music but I would love to be able to play it. Wouldn't have the slightest idea where to start, though.
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For a certain age ('fraid it's us Philly), you don't need to play even, just put some smart casual on and go to a Donny Osmond concert - there is LOADS of wimin there and you can take your pick, on the basis of just showing up!
I took the wife a few years back, Hammy Apollo - it was actually really good, btw. During the interval she wanted a loo break, so I stood in the upstairs foyer waiting - twas a wonderful experience, it was packed, I was the only male there, and I was the complete centre of attention (Of course, if I'd been single it would have been entirely different )
D'you know what Andy, I never would have thought of that. Seriously, that is a revelation :o . Almost a case of "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." (not that I'm comparing you with a one-eyed man, or Gordon Brown, or.... sorry, blind charity people... :oops: )
They'd be a bit old though, wouldn't they? :lol: I try to be a sensitive, non-superficial type but (like most of us, I suspect) I still tend to be looking at young, pretty girls women even though I am (scarily) old enough to be their dad :( . Guess I need to re-align my sights.
Couldn't turn up to see Donny or David Cassidy on my own though, could I? That would be creepy. I'll have to sound out some of my female friends...
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For a certain age ('fraid it's us Philly), you don't need to play even, just put some smart casual on and go to a Donny Osmond concert - there is LOADS of wimin there and you can take your pick, on the basis of just showing up!
I took the wife a few years back, Hammy Apollo - it was actually really good, btw. During the interval she wanted a loo break, so I stood in the upstairs foyer waiting - twas a wonderful experience, it was packed, I was the only male there, and I was the complete centre of attention :lol: (Of course, if I'd been single it would have been entirely different :roll:)
HA ha - happened to me too - 10 years ago or so
Girlfriend at the time dragged me along to see Keanu Reeves Dogstar band
I swear I was the only guy there
Nearly got mobbed in the foyer!
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I seem to have followed the herd. If you can write a song about being broken-hearted and not sound too cloying well they are probably putty in your hands. I say "probably" because I have yet to succeed.
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Singing stuff girls want too hear.
Like that guy who sings "yah beatifahah" in that high pitched voice. My memory tucked his name somewhere because af the audial trauma.
Oh yes, James Blunt. (Just threw up a little)
Or you could rap. Call 'em bitch n' ho and rap about all the nasty stuff you want to do them and just use a guitar as a fashion accessory instead of a musical instrument.
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The reason i put guitar w**kery there is because I imagine some girls like insane guitar w**kery as it means your skills will always get you a good job somehow so you won't be poor haha.
But if you spend your time practising scales all day you won't get to put the girl to good use, so i think we can forget that.
All i need now is an acoustic and a girlfriend (that doesn't hate me for finding out i cheated on her :lol: :( )
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this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN0oDnoc3-c
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this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN0oDnoc3-c
Oh yes !!!!!!!! - very close to the mark !! :?
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How do you reckon Norwegian black metal fairs in attracting fanny? :lol:
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I chose rock, as thats what hair metal is probably classed as now. Stuff like Motley Crue's titty cam is just evidence
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Yes......but it won't get you the ladies! If you want respect from every guitarist in the room, playing at a million notes a minute (whether you like it or not) will get you interest from the guitarists in the room, but your average Joe Public won't be very impressed.
I play acoustic at my gigs, just a Larrivee LV-19E and my voice.......nothing more and nothing less, but in my youger days I did a lot of open mike nights.
One night I was on in this Irish pub, with a couple of other guys warming up prior to going on. One was this shredder with his backing tracks on his little rig and he was merrily taking the piss out of me for my less than 'leet' guitar skills whereas he was super speeding up and down the scales like a mad man.
He went on before me, and came off to good applause and literally turned to me and said "That crowd will chew you up and shitee you out after that performance from me" and walked off safe in the knowledge that he would be the guy asked to come back for an encore.
I'm not a confident guy, and walked out with my old acoustic under one arm absolutely shiteeeting myself. I perched myself onto my stool, and then started with a Crowded House song I always start with. The crowd applauded politely and I fell into a good patch and played my songs including one of my own for 20 minutes. I then ended on 'Halleljuah' as I like to do if I'm not playing the whole night. I came off to great applause and sat waiting for the pub vote to see whether or not I had come second to the guitar w**kery bloke........
I didn't............I won............and I went home with a very nice young brunette that night who came over to talk to me after I finished the encore.
As far as I'm concerned singer/songwriter stuff wins the hearts of the ladies every time!
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Whatever type of music you use to attract the ladies, always have well conditioned hair :P you will always get them stroking it!
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In my experience, the average uber-shredder is usually so far up his own arse, brown-nosing himself about his own "ability", that no-one is particularly interestd in talking to him, let alone any self-respecting female.
- flame suit well and truly ON.
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^ to get to that kind of level though you kind of have to think you suck or you'd never practice.
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this is quite a cynical thread.. but i voted for punk, which is what i'm most comfortable with, and being comfortable with yourself is important.
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^ to get to that kind of level though you kind of have to think you suck or you'd never practice.
I KNOW I suck technically, and I always will ! THat's why I don't practice, and just rely on my other musical qualities to see me through.
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In all seriousness though i'm interested in doing a singer songwriter thing, i was going to learn the Free Fallin' cover by John Mayer. But the thing that sucks is i can't sing and play at the same time, my voice sucks and i can't fingerpick.
Basically it's an all around fail.
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^ to get to that kind of level though you kind of have to think you suck or you'd never practice.
I'm not sure - to be really "driven" like that you have to have some deep belief in your natural ability and/or potential.
Or just be suffering from an obsessive-compulsive disorder. :wink:
If you really think you suck you'll never be any good even if you practice your ass off, so why bother? That's what I've been telling myself for 30 years. :lol:
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In all seriousness though i'm interested in doing a singer songwriter thing, i was going to learn the Free Fallin' cover by John Mayer. But the thing that sucks is i can't sing and play at the same time, my voice sucks and i can't fingerpick.
Basically it's an all around fail.
Not necessarily. It's all about practice. When i started out playing acoustic, i was 18 (but had been playing guitar since 13), couldn't sing for shite and had almost no sense of rythym. Inside six months, by practicing at both, I could get up at a relaxed open mic night and sing/play for 15 mins. The trick I found helpful was to learn stuff that's very well known, (Hey Joe was the first one for me), don't try new techniques (learn fingerpicking separately from learning your songs) and don't be afraid to use a capo to change the key to suit your voice.
Now (at 27) I'm ok to get up in front of a pub full of people I don't know, armed with nowt but an acoustic, and play for a while. I'm not the best singer in the world, but I can hold a tune ok, and if you're playing songs people recgonise, they'll probably be happy to listen to you.
Hope that's some help anyway.
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This reminded me of a lovely little quote at the end of the DVD documentary / tutorial ' An Evening With Joe Pass' :
You see the little old guy himself enjoying a cigar outside the theatre he had just been playing at - and he jovially / paternally shouts out to this young 'shredder' :
" learn a few tunes , son - you won't get a girlfriend playing scales "... :wink:
God, Joe Pass was so cool. I don't really enjoy listening to that kind of music but I would love to be able to play it. Wouldn't have the slightest idea where to start, though.
Well Philly and Andy, I'm glad that quote from Joe, brought a smile to we 'chaps of a certain age'.
The bit I really wanted to mention Philly, is that I'm at that 'starting all over again but not sure how' stage; - and I was there sitting next to a chord melody book, with a headache, and A.D.D - when Joe answered that same question to some young fan during the ' guitar clinic' interview - AND when talking informally to the journalist about his early life. It went something like this :
" Just play what you think you hear - I only got started because my Father said I had to play some tunes whilst his friends played cards - and fill in the gaps between the chords to make it sound 'busy' . I had to just take the record player upstairs and listen to songs, phrase by phrase - very slowly trying to add extra notes to the melody. I did have a book about that stuff - and it was a very good book, but by page six it got really hard - and I had to go back to the record player and guess. Remember, it was 1947, we had no 'Guitar Institute' - no 'Hot Licks' videos - just guess work- and of course you had to love the songs ".
I mention that Philly, as over the next two days I chose a song ( When I fall In Love ) - and just tried what he said. It worked, I don't know what all the chords should officially be called - but Joe's simple words just broke the back of it for me. Perhaps it might give you some fun too. :)
The whole video turned out to be heartwarming and ( literally ) instructional - but it was not the 'down loadable P.D.F files' - or transcriptions that worked for me, it was just a cameraman and sympathetic journalist / guitarist ( Don Mock ) spending a whole day with Joe - walking around outside, rehearsing, bits of a 'masterclass' - a nice receptive interview about Joe's life and influences whilst Don and Joe sat in the seats of the empty theatre - and finally 4 or 5 clips from the evening show. Now all that is not meant to read like a promo- ad , just to say that it was the casual comments, laughs and Joe chatting spontaniously that began to really break the technical mysteries for me - and of course I am sure that would have been his intention .
Finally I loved it when this really serious young lady( representing us all I suppose ) asked him what the definitive method was for improvising through a II-V , and Joe looked at her impishly and said " what's all this 2 and 5 I keep hearing about ? .....
Give it a go Philly, goodness knows, if I can - anybody can ... :lol:
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In all seriousness though i'm interested in doing a singer songwriter thing, i was going to learn the Free Fallin' cover by John Mayer. But the thing that sucks is i can't sing and play at the same time, my voice sucks and i can't fingerpick.
Basically it's an all around fail.
In regards to finger picking, i had NEVER done it until i got my first acoustic in July. Now i can play most things, bluesy soloing, using only my fingers. I found that if you practice Blackbird by the Beatles, that prepares you for it well.
That may be a total load, but it worked for me!
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The only time I was sad and inadequate enough to play a guitar to a girl to try to pull her was when I was about 15 - she fell asleep and didn't speak to me for years. However, when I met her again aged 25 and mentioned it to her, she apologised and after a few drinks stayed the night!!!!! So be prepared for delayed effect :D
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Is everybody staying away from the fact that the flight of the conchords song is worryingly close :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
"Two minutes in heaven is better then one minute in heaven"......Awesome.
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is it really the genre that has the most influence? (imo no,,,,) but they all have their girls they attract, the question is what type of girls do you wanna attract ;)
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I KNOW I suck technically, and I always will ! THat's why I don't practice, and just rely on my other musical qualities to see me through.
haha, i didn't mean you, i meant the shredder guys. if you already think you're amazing, why would you practice?
though...
I'm not sure - to be really "driven" like that you have to have some deep belief in your natural ability and/or potential.
Or just be suffering from an obsessive-compulsive disorder. :wink:
If you really think you suck you'll never be any good even if you practice your ass off, so why bother? That's what I've been telling myself for 30 years. :lol:
that's also a good point. i guess there's a happy medium where you think you suck enough to practice, but not enough to put you off completely... :lol: seeing improvement when you practice helps too.
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is it really the genre that has the most influence? (imo no,,,,) but they all have their girls they attract, the question is what type of girls do you wanna attract ;)
Not the ugly ones that's for sure.
And cheers to Simon D and Ted 'N' Leo, that was pretty encouraging!
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haha obviously not the ugly ones..... do they count? ;)
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Flight of the Conchords is so annoying :\
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I voted other. For Funk. Girls love dancing, make em dance and they suck your Koch!
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To me, I think this thread only brings stereotypical assumptions.
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Different Folk, Different Genre.
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In my area all the birds seem to want to cop off with the skinny emo/indie/fashioncore lads with the drainpipe jeans, silly hair and checked shirts.
I did have two birds after me on Christmas Eve though (I was dressed up as Santa and playing). Trouble is, they were both 16 and pissed - I would have felt like a dirty old man so I didn't do ANYTHING.
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hey!! not sure about drainpipe jeans, but i'm wearing a checked shirt and have silly hair...
in other news, i'm moving to your area. how much are drainpipe jeans there?
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hey!! not sure about drainpipe jeans, but i'm wearing a checked shirt and have silly hair...
in other news, i'm moving to your area. how much are drainpipe jeans there?
Cheaper than Santa suits.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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long-haired, energetic, naked c--k-rock :P
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Dodgy thrash doesn't, I can vouch for that one.
The whole singer/songwriter thing seems like a good bet if you're after women. I think that the whole 'tortured artist' image has something to do with it! :lol:
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None....never got a date or other from my playing..says it all I guess..or just plain ugly *L*
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Dodgy thrash doesn't, I can vouch for that one.
The whole singer/songwriter thing seems like a good bet if you're after women. I think that the whole 'tortured artist' image has something to do with it! :lol:
I know some lovely girls who go for the tortured artist image. I think they want to make them feel better, then when they do, they dump them! (Probably) :D