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Title: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: PeteyG on February 23, 2009, 12:51:10 PM
Howdy,

I just recorded a clip of an idea me and Nolly are working on, it's based on the same clip I posted here a while back but recorded on Logic using Impulses with my ENGL Invader 100. The Impulses used emulate a Soldano SLO Power amp and a Diezel 4x12 on one side, and a Framus power amp and 4x12 on the other.

Enjoy, and feel free to leave feedback, it will be much appreciated.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=722173&songID=7362646
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on February 23, 2009, 08:28:50 PM
Yep, you and Nolly are definitely the mayors of Groovey Town.  I can't stop listening to this clip, especially the groove that starts at 1:24!  FUUUUUUU
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: yellowv on February 24, 2009, 01:02:07 AM
Awesome dude. What tuning were you in? I can't wait for my Painkiller.
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: sebby123 on February 24, 2009, 02:49:57 AM
I can see alot of sikth influence i like :)
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: ChunkyMunky on February 24, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
As said, brilliant stuff!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Hybrid_Child on February 24, 2009, 01:03:44 PM
Wow sounds great.... Nice riffs.

What guitar and pickups?
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Adam.M on February 24, 2009, 04:50:25 PM
I really owe it to myself to learn this Impulses shiz.... this immediately sounds brilliant!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Roobubba on February 24, 2009, 05:36:54 PM
This, this I like. Nice work!

Roo
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: yellowv on February 24, 2009, 06:37:09 PM
Wow sounds great.... Nice riffs.

What guitar and pickups?

Read the thread title.
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on February 25, 2009, 06:16:42 AM
Awesome dude. What tuning were you in? I can't wait for my Painkiller.
+1

Sounds like B standard to me(on a six string obviously), but I'm slightly inebriated so I don't fully trust my ear!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Nolly on February 25, 2009, 07:36:29 AM
Close, it's E-standard with the sixth string tuned to B ;)
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Gooby on February 25, 2009, 08:47:54 AM
Awesome tone, playing and composition.

There, said it five words  :D


Martin  8)
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Lazy_McDoesnothing on February 25, 2009, 08:51:30 AM
Close, it's E-standard with the sixth string tuned to B ;)

Haha sweet, thanks Nolly!  Despite my previous post I actually have two ears.  They just don't always work correctly!  :shh:
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Hybrid_Child on February 25, 2009, 02:33:45 PM
Wow sounds great.... Nice riffs.

What guitar and pickups?

Read the thread title.

Doh  :oops:
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: bobthemerciful on February 27, 2009, 01:34:31 PM
I normally avoid profanity in forums, but that's $%&#in awesome!!

edit
I see it's avoided it for me  8)
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: jpmaxxy on March 01, 2009, 03:33:37 AM
So awesome.. thanks for the clip and eargasm   :D

EDIT: Could I ask if you programmed the drums what did you use for it? Cheers!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Nolly on March 01, 2009, 08:39:39 AM
Pete and I programmed the drums ourselves (mainly Petey for this one), and the sounds are courtesy of the standard Logic drum software which we're hoping to be able to ditch for Superior 2.0 in the very near future.
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: zf on March 01, 2009, 10:46:14 AM
Seeing as I already have the Invader 100, there's no way I could NOT buy some PKs for my Ibanez after this ;)
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: zf on March 01, 2009, 06:18:38 PM
Btw, would you guys mind giving some pointers on how you actually record using these impulses? Where do you get the IRs, what software do you need etc? I'd really like to give it a shot myself :)
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: JDC on March 05, 2009, 05:05:02 AM
that legato bit at 2:28... how did you get that to sound like that?!!! right now I'm half asleep and can't decide if it's tone or technique
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Twaddlefish on March 05, 2009, 02:27:22 PM
I rocked my socks off. Now my feet are cold. Grand job, sir!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Nolly on March 05, 2009, 02:35:03 PM
Btw, would you guys mind giving some pointers on how you actually record using these impulses? Where do you get the IRs, what software do you need etc? I'd really like to give it a shot myself :)

Well, first you need a suitable VST/AU program. If you're using a mac, I recommend LA Convolver, if you're on windows then I think Voxengo Boogex is what most people go for. Both are free. The scout around for some cabinet impulse files, lots of people upload them on forums. www.guitarampmodeling.com is a good place to start.
Then hook up your preamp to your interface, and load up an impulse of your choice.

that legato bit at 2:28... how did you get that to sound like that?!!! right now I'm half asleep and can't decide if it's tone or technique

Do you mean 1:28? 2:28 is practically the end of the clip, definitely no legato there. However, Petey did make a vid of him playing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sgGFE38nYQ

EDIT: shite, I didn't realise Petey had updated the clip!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: PeteyG on March 05, 2009, 02:52:03 PM
I've only just spoken to Nolly for the first time in about 3 days, and I updated this 2 days ago to an extended version with a solo. The bit at 2:28 you mean is supposed to be a sweep pattern, but I'm pretty new to sweeping, and didn't want to just skimp out at the end of it, so I recorded each note, trimmed it down to the right length, and placed them in the right position, so it sounds like an absolutely mind blowingly perfectly played sweep. I'm not one for cheating when recording, but in this case I had no other choice.
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Nolly on March 05, 2009, 02:59:47 PM
I've only just spoken to Nolly for the first time in about 3 days, and I updated this 2 days ago to an extended version with a solo. The bit at 2:28 you mean is supposed to be a sweep pattern, but I'm pretty new to sweeping, and didn't want to just skimp out at the end of it, so I recorded each note, trimmed it down to the right length, and placed them in the right position, so it sounds like an absolutely mind blowingly perfectly played sweep. I'm not one for cheating when recording, but in this case I had no other choice.

This is bollocks. Pete sweeped them with his face at twice the speed, then time stretched it back to the correct tempo.
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: zf on March 05, 2009, 06:38:21 PM
Well, first you need a suitable VST/AU program. If you're using a mac, I recommend LA Convolver, if you're on windows then I think Voxengo Boogex is what most people go for. Both are free. The scout around for some cabinet impulse files, lots of people upload them on forums. www.guitarampmodeling.com is a good place to start.
Then hook up your preamp to your interface, and load up an impulse of your choice.

Thanks for the tips!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Metalbrainsurgery on March 09, 2009, 04:20:33 AM
Holy santa clause shite this is amazing.

This is instantly in my top favorite songs from the forums I post in. Good sirs this, IMHO, sits uppon the same pedistal that I hold Bulb.

Also, amazing tone. I'm looking into buying a set of BKP's for my 7string and I might just have to consider the Painkiller now.
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: DrunkenMonkey on March 09, 2009, 11:05:27 PM
Bad-asses indeed! Nice work there Boys.
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Nolly on March 12, 2009, 09:33:30 AM
Glad you chaps like it!  :D
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Nadz1lla on March 15, 2009, 07:51:39 PM
It's all already been said, awesome clip, awesome tune, awesome tone!
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: noodleplugerine on March 20, 2009, 10:22:29 AM
Incredible clip.

Now how long do we have to wait till RSF release something?
Title: Re: Painkillers doing low tuned metal, ENGL Invader & Jackson DKMG
Post by: Nolly on March 20, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
Incredible clip.

Now how long do we have to wait till RSF release something?

Hopefully not too long matey, we obviously won't be releasing anything officially till we find a vocalist though.