Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on March 05, 2009, 12:30:54 AM
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http://www.gibson.com/en-us/divisions/gibson%20usa/products/gotm/theholyv/
any idea? suspicious of all the holes, maybe it makes no difference though, considering rudolf schenker's ferrari V
would the holes brighten the tone do you think? or something else?
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I'm not too keen on the Holy V. There doesn't seem to be enough wood left to get any response from the wood that's actually there :D
I kinda prefer the Holy Explorer, although I couldn't really say why.
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Explorer/Gibson-USA/Holy-Explorer/Overview.aspx (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Explorer/Gibson-USA/Holy-Explorer/Overview.aspx)
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"holy v" vs "ferrari v"
i love the look, but i worry about the sound
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sort of reminds me of the V-90, I think it was called...I had a righty that I turned upside down-had 1 pup, 24 frets-same neck and fingerboard as this one-I LOVED THE NECK !!!it was killer!!!!I like the looks of the v-90 far more than this one personally-I have always wished they would so the v-90 again(in lefty!)
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They really have ran out of ideas havent they :lol: Looks $%&#ing atrocious.
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Yeah, it is a typical Gibson idea - "we don't know how to refine the sound or features, so we'll just do some stupid gimmick which looks different".
Looks and sound-wise, I don't mind the holes in the wings but I worry about the big boomerang cutout between the neck and bridge. There's very little wood there in the middle. Not sure about the strength of the headstock either, unless it's made of some space-age material.
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it's fuc*in' ugly. and i can't imagine, like Phil said, how that ridiculous hole in the middle can not suffocate the overall resonance... gibson is doing nice things with its "new" les pauls, but its work on the other models can be at least described as unimaginative to be kind... grotesque to be objective.
has anyone got an inverted flying V? :?
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I'd imagine it must sound something like my neighbour's dog, as there's no chance I'd let either into my living room.
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Its ugly and its dumb. Vs dont have very good vibration mechanics as it is - the lack of wood around the bridge kills lows. And now they've chopped a piece out between the bridge and the neck, cutting the main line of vibration transmission? I bet it sounds brash, thin and irritating, and lacks sustain.
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Its ugly and its dumb...I bet it sounds brash, thin and irritating, and lacks sustain.
Ah! So it sounds more like my neighbour's wife than his dog.
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Whatevery you might think of it. Those more unpopular GOM models tend to fall in price a lot because shops are forced to stock them but they get stuck on their shelves.
Happened to many of those before. Wait 6 months at it will be half price or less.
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Whatevery you might think of it. Those more unpopular GOM models tend to fall in price a lot because shops are forced to stock them but they get stuck on their shelves.
Happened to many of those before. Wait 6 months at it will be half price or less.
the weird (and very useful) thing is that many great guitars have fallen in this category and "suffered" of major price drops... i got my two gibsons (wich are very tasty, at least in my opinion) this way!
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Whatevery you might think of it. Those more unpopular GOM models tend to fall in price a lot because shops are forced to stock them but they get stuck on their shelves.
Happened to many of those before. Wait 6 months at it will be half price or less.
That's what's so annoying about Gibson. Whenever they (miraculously) come up with something innovative that fits a gap in the market - like the Nighthawk series - they abandon it after 5 minutes to make another comedy version of a Les Paul, SG, V or Explorer.
It's impossible to find an ES-339 anywhere, but you can buy a novelty self-tuning Les Paul, a V with holes in it or an SG with chrome tailfins and a brake light (or something). It's idiotic.
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It's impossible to find an ES-339 anywhere
Here, they have three in stock:
http://www.maxguitarstore.com/store/index.php?productID=3641
http://www.maxguitarstore.com/store/index.php?productID=3099
http://www.maxguitarstore.com/store/index.php?productID=3135
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OK, OK, I should've said "in the UK". :oops:
Even then, two of those are the ones with figured maple tops so they're a lot more expensive... and don't seem to sell as well.
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OK, OK, I should've said "in the UK". :oops:
Even then, two of those are the ones with figured maple tops so they're a lot more expensive... and don't seem to sell as well.
Yeah that's always the case in the UK after Guitarist Mag do an amazing review.
Same with the PRS DGT, they are always sold in like 2 days when they appear somewhere in stock (nice ones).
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Philly, now you got me back on 339 GAS :(
Actually found a great pic, comparing it to a 335 and Les Paul:
(http://www.guitarworld.de/gwpages/images/gear/2737.jpg)
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that V looks fully horrible, and prone to getting destroyed.
this is a V i found today...
(http://www.normandyguitars.com/images/v/KJJ1-09Cr.cover.small.jpg)
ALUMINUM BODY constructed of aircraft-grade material
WARMOTH HARD ROCK MAPLE WITH ROSEWOOD FRETBOARD
18% NICKEL/SILVER FRET WIRE
TUNERS by Gotoh®
GRAPHITE NUT from Graphtech®
GOTOH TAILPIECE
If i had the choice of only those two V's, id go with the chromed up aluminum one.
I love my Les Paul, id never get a gibson fresh from a store. id always go second hand.
ive been really tempted to save up for a feline lion though after seeing all the photos.
maybe its just gibson taking advantage of idiotic collectors. that robot guitar is horrible. and the darkfire is even worse.
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That V is ridiculous, there's no feckin' body!
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im gonna make the 'ghost V', basically just a neck with no body. the V will be made of air. i just need to work out a hovering electronics systems.
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I think Les Pauls' original Log wasn't too far off that!
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Talking about Vs, what about the Reverend Volcano (Korina)? I think we haven't discussed about this one for a few weeks.
(http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/hi-res/volcano_honey_lg.jpg)
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i don't really like asymmetric Vs unless they are the rhoads shape.
i think the holy v is a great look, thanks for comments though about the possible sound.
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Gibson's designers need to cut down on the crack.
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i quite like the look of the holy v. it is a limited guitar of the month, and they do seem to be using that series to try out some fairly wacky ideas. what's wrong with that? i've no idea what it would sound like, but i like it.
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that V looks fully horrible, and prone to getting destroyed.
this is a V i found today...
(http://www.normandyguitars.com/images/v/KJJ1-09Cr.cover.small.jpg)
ALUMINUM BODY constructed of aircraft-grade material
WARMOTH HARD ROCK MAPLE WITH ROSEWOOD FRETBOARD
18% NICKEL/SILVER FRET WIRE
TUNERS by Gotoh®
GRAPHITE NUT from Graphtech®
GOTOH TAILPIECE
If i had the choice of only those two V's, id go with the chromed up aluminum one.
I love my Les Paul, id never get a gibson fresh from a store. id always go second hand.
ive been really tempted to save up for a feline lion though after seeing all the photos.
maybe its just gibson taking advantage of idiotic collectors. that robot guitar is horrible. and the darkfire is even worse.
that V is quite sexy, even if i don't like Vs and i'm always dubious about non-wooden guitars... i've seen an iron les paul with a wonderful rusty look (not by gibson!), and i was tempted... thanks to god i haven't got all that money.
the darkfire is an awesome looking guitar, the problem is that i'd like a NORMAL les paul in darkfire finish... i hate electronics in guitars, and i hate even more to have the ability of smoothly merging different pickups... i want it as it has always been, damn!
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Philly, now you got me back on 339 GAS :(
Actually found a great pic, comparing it to a 335 and Les Paul:
(http://www.guitarworld.de/gwpages/images/gear/2737.jpg)
I really want one too! Vintage sunburst with 59 neck. I haven't found anywhere in central Scotland that sells them. Guitar guitr are only doing the 359, the blinged up custom version.
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There's a world of difference between the Ferrari and holy V's! The Ferrari doesn't have any holes, and has a wrap around bridge to help sustain. I would think the holy sounds just the opposite - hell comes to mind!
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what gibson should do, is make modern versions of their guitars. models with floyds, ebony boards, AANJs, 24 frets. then they'd actually appeal to the modern crowd.
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what gibson should do, is make modern versions of their guitars. models with floyds, ebony boards, AANJs, 24 frets. then they'd actually appeal to the modern crowd.
They should do that instead of these GOTW stupid models, but I do like the classic models look.
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what gibson should do, is make modern versions of their guitars. models with floyds, ebony boards, AANJs, 24 frets. then they'd actually appeal to the modern crowd.
The eighties is modern? :wink:
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what gibson should do, is make modern versions of their guitars. models with floyds, ebony boards, AANJs, 24 frets. then they'd actually appeal to the modern crowd.
The eighties is modern? :wink:
quite more than being stuck in the late 50's :lol:
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what gibson should do, is make modern versions of their guitars. models with floyds, ebony boards, AANJs, 24 frets. then they'd actually appeal to the modern crowd.
The eighties is modern? :wink:
quite more than being stuck in the late 50's :lol:
i'm not so sure... after all 80s have passed leaving a trail of diehard shredders who still buy pink fluorescent guitars with black pickguards and play them at shoulder height... ;)
classic oriented models are coming back in full glory among the new generations of players, and i'm not speaking of vintage fans... 10 years ago it was quite hard to find a fixed bridge metal oriented guitar, now floyds (this is a simple observation and has got nothing to do with my floyd idiosincracy... :P) are becoming almost a rarity...
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Yeah, I was kidding with my last post but I think superstrats with Floyds, skinny necks, ebony boards etc are just as "retro" as '52 reissue Teles or whatever. It's just that they're retro for a more recent period in history!
They've definitely been making a comeback in recent years, but for a while in the '90s/early '00s they were deeply unfashionable.
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Yeah, I was kidding with my last post but I think superstrats with Floyds, skinny necks, ebony boards etc are just as "retro" as '52 reissue Teles or whatever. It's just that they're retro for a more recent period in history!
They've definitely been making a comeback in recent years, but for a while in the '90s/early '00s they were deeply unfashionable.
Shreddng became unfashionable, but shredders guitars just got used for metal anyway. Darker finishes, not as flamboyant looking but same guitars