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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Bradock PI on April 22, 2009, 10:15:48 PM
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Harlequin vs Romany ?
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i am not sure any valve amp is very suitable for bedroom use in reality....
i dont own an amp above 5w but they are still more than loud enough to shake the house and annoy the neighbours
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I think I'd go for a Matamp Minimat... wish I'd got one last year when I had the chance of a bargain.
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I have a minimat for home cranked valve tones, it's great!
If it were between the two C's i'd go Cornell, i've tried the Romany Plus and loved it, his Plexi was plain awesome too.
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i had a cornell romany plus which i loved. having a 12' speaker made a big difference if you can push the price i would go for that one. also has reverb which is nice. im gna say go with cornell simply because i owned and loved one, but i hear the harlequin is very good too...
best of luck,
morgan
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I have a Romany Plus and the power scaling (from 10 watts down to 1/8 watt) does make it very suitable for domestic use. I think it sounds wonderful: classic Fender amp tone, more tweed than anything else. It has some lovely break-up as you turn up the wick and an EQ cut that really adds some dirt albeit with a little more volume. If you want to play anything heavier than late 60s rock then I don't think it's the amp for you but it does everything from clean spanky country sounds through to ZZ Top "La Grange" filth with aplomb. I may actually like it more than my Cornell Plexi Seven now and I didn't think that would ever happen.
It's such a versatile amp that it encourages you to experiment with tones. This evening, for example, I found that running it with the EQ cut on, a tubescreamer and my Strat set to bridge only and the tone almost wide open gave me a very passable "tear your face off" Albert Collins tone. A couple a knob twiddles later and you can dial in a Curtis Mayfield/Hendrix "Little Wing" sound. Just a lovely, lovely amp. If you do get one, I'd suggest getting the Plus model as the reverb is top notch and I think you'd regret not having it in the long run.
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in sound clips much prefered the romany
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thought i would also mention,
denis cornell is a great guy, i had a couple of questions and he spent half an hour answering them in great depth over the phone, which i was not expecting. he's known for being very good with his clients. any issues, and he'll sort you out lol
morgan
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Hasn't feline got his Cornell Stinger/romany for sale still
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I have a Romany Plus and the power scaling (from 10 watts down to 1/8 watt)
didnt realise it went that low... i guess that would be crankable at home volumes
my amps are a matamp little rock (4w clean) and a champ kit (5w approx). they go through a 12" speaker and can be cranked for home use .... but only at certain times of the day and less since i got neighbours with a baby.
valve amps are generally not at their best when used for low volume stuff
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i used to crank the romany plus when using 2w at 4 in the morning lol
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i've tried the cornell romany plus, and the carrera, so the two more upmarket versions of those two amps. I want both of them at some point, basically... :lol:
anyway, the cornell is very fendery in tone, much more of a vintage tone. the variable wattage would be good for home use. pretty versatile, but it's a vintage-style amp so you're not getting modern metal out of it without some serious pedals.
the cornford can get a lot more modern (80s metal without a boost), and again is pretty versatile, but the cleans aren't amazing.
both very nice, but do very different things.
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I have heard the Fender blues deluxe reissue which looks similar to the cornell but is 40w is this the sorta sound the romany gets as I did like the tone?
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The Cornford's are much more suited to a bit of overdrive/distortion than the Romany.
The Harlequin and Carrera are both stunning amps IMO. If you're looking for some decent, refined distortion in a small amp the Cornfords are completely in a league of their own, for the price, IMHO.
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:lol: both amps are very good. they are different beasts though.
i have to agree with dave_mc. I own a cornford carerra and its a great amp, It does slightly heavier stuff and blues stuff v well but i still yern for a rich fender sound and would like a cornell in the future as well. If you can pick up a new mint carerra for @600 or harly for 350-400 id get one.
If you want the more fender type sound for home use the cornell is the best around and worth the extra for the plus for larger speaker etc.
Have your tried them yet?
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The Fender Blues Deluxe reissue sounds brittle in comparrison to the Cornell.
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Although I have no experience with either Cornford or Cornell, I'd check out the Blackstar HT5. It's the best bedroom tone I've had and it's half the price of the amps you're considering.
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Hasn't feline got his Cornell Stinger/romany for sale still
Yes - got it up at £399 but would be open to near offers
Mine is an older one that doesn't have the power reduction
Blooming great sounding amp - and another class A single ended amp (those who know me know I have an obsession with the tone of these)
(http://www.felineguitars.com/images/shop/shop_amps/cornell-stinger-525.jpg)
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I have heard the Fender blues deluxe reissue which looks similar to the cornell but is 40w is this the sorta sound the romany gets as I did like the tone?
yeah, i think so. it's a while since i tried the blues deluxe, but the cornell is certainly "fendery". But better, if you ask me, anyway.
The Cornford's are much more suited to a bit of overdrive/distortion than the Romany.
agreed. well, a more modern distortion- the romany sounded pretty sweet cranked up, from what i can remember. just a completely different style of overdrive. :)
:lol: both amps are very good. they are different beasts though.
i have to agree with dave_mc. I own a cornford carerra and its a great amp, It does slightly heavier stuff and blues stuff v well but i still yern for a rich fender sound and would like a cornell in the future as well. If you can pick up a new mint carerra for @600 or harly for 350-400 id get one.
If you want the more fender type sound for home use the cornell is the best around and worth the extra for the plus for larger speaker etc.
Have your tried them yet?
also agreed (even though you agreed with me :lol: you added a bit more useful info, though). I'm not sure if the cornell is the best around, but it's the best I've tried.
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add the Cornell plexi 7 to your list
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I am half looking her to advise a friend now and me in the future, also keeping an eye out for bargains for now my wife has a HT5 and I have a Vox AC4TV which both are great little amps but my friend needs to replace a Marshall AVT 50.
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i am not sure any valve amp is very suitable for bedroom use in reality....
i dont own an amp above 5w but they are still more than loud enough to shake the house and annoy the neighbours
Nonsence Wez I use my Koch in the bedroom all the time! :D
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oh no Koch jokes again
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oh no Koch jokes again
But i do, its fine through an attenuator :P
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you need to attenuate the size of your koch?
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add the Cornell plexi 7 to your list
i was not a massive fan of the plexi 7, found it dident overdrive as nicely as i would have expected to... matter of opinion i suppose. its a very different sound to the romany series, so i suppose its down to weather he wants a fender or marshall type sound...
morgan
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you need to attenuate the size of your koch?
The volume Dave, it's huge for bedroom use.
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The Plexi 7 vs the Koch sounds like a mid morning discussion amongst bored housewives
(no offense intended to any housewives on line - phew I covered the PC bit well)
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you need to attenuate the size of your koch?
The volume Dave, it's huge for bedroom use.
:lol:
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The Plexi 7 vs the Koch sounds like a mid morning discussion amongst bored housewives
(no offense intended to any housewives on line - phew I covered the PC bit well)
plexi 7 yup sounds like a powertool...er for women..or some men
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had the opportunity to take my cornford carrera to my guitar teachers tonight. he's just moved to a house with no neighbours so had a chance to see what my amp could do.
so impressed. tbh i think tube amps arent really suited to the bedroom. i know people say this all the time and people keep buying them, then try to find ways to make them more quiet because they have to have a tube amp, but the sounds were huge and so impressive at volumes im not going to be able to replicate often. the cornford's cab is heavy and thick pine. its a large cab and is designed to sound huge. it has amazing bass response but this is not going to show through unless you can get it running past 10am minimum (whilst gain is on full) and ideally past 12 noon is when it shines. the cornford will sound good in comparison to most amps at low volume. it has the ability to sustain and overdrive so sweetly.
The cornell is designed with the bedroom much more in mind. with high levels of attenuation and smaller cab + speaker will make a massive difference in the amount you can turn it up but it wont sound as good as the larger cornford cab nor will the the range of sounds be as good.
very impressed with the cornford and won my guitar teacher over. he would be very happy mic'ing this up for gigs as he could get it hitting the sweet spot as apposed to his large amp at 3.
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add the Cornell plexi 7 to your list
i was not a massive fan of the plexi 7, found it dident overdrive as nicely as i would have expected to... matter of opinion i suppose. its a very different sound to the romany series, so i suppose its down to weather he wants a fender or marshall type sound...
morgan
Yea, it sounds like a plexi.
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Yea, it sounds like a plexi.
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thats the thing, im not sure it does... certainly did not seem to when i tried it.
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thats the thing, im not sure it does... certainly did not seem to when i tried it.
I certainly think mine does but I will qualify that statement. For me, the Plexi Seven sounds great with a humbucker loaded guitar cranked (think early Van Halen) and with a Strat you can get Robin Trower type sounds too. The one thing it doesn't do so well on the heavily attenuated settings are the guitar volume backed right off clean-ish Hendrix type sounds. At the full 7 watts it can do this too but that's not a bedroom acceptable volume. I love my Plexi Seven and it does things that the Romany Plus can't; however it is a more limited amp, in my opinion, than the Romany. I would not want to lose either though.
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thats the thing, im not sure it does... certainly did not seem to when i tried it.
I certainly think mine does but I will qualify that statement. For me, the Plexi Seven sounds great with a humbucker loaded guitar cranked (think early Van Halen) and with a Strat you can get Robin Trower type sounds too. The one thing it doesn't do so well on the heavily attenuated settings are the guitar volume backed right off clean-ish Hendrix type sounds. At the full 7 watts it can do this too but that's not a bedroom acceptable volume. I love my Plexi Seven and it does things that the Romany Plus can't; however it is a more limited amp, in my opinion, than the Romany. I would not want to lose either though.
you have clearly spent more time with it than i did, so perhaps i gave up too quickly...
morgan