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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: JMP2203 on April 23, 2009, 07:39:21 PM

Title: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: JMP2203 on April 23, 2009, 07:39:21 PM
i got 3 BKP bridge pickups in the last months, MiracleMan, Nailbomb and Warpig, all 7-string and ceramic magnet.

the thing is that i have ordered all with ceramic magnet but when they arrive the manual?, i mean the paper with the intructions and spec says its alnico v.

and all the time i got the same responce, "dont worry, it must be a typo, Tim mislabels things"

how can i be sure? its this a common thing?

why a respetable company mislabels importan info?

its disgusting not to be sure  :x
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: MDV on April 23, 2009, 08:10:33 PM
Its never happened to me (I've owned or handled more than 20Bks, as in each sperate pickup, probably closer to 30).

I very much doubt the pickup is wrong. If youre in doubt I'm sure they'd be happy to check it. (But if you cant hear a problem, whats the problem? Does it sound ceramic?)
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: Twinfan on April 23, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
It happened to me when I ordered a non-standard magnet.  Happens all the time apparently  :)
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: Denim n Leather on April 23, 2009, 09:41:43 PM
^ Same here.

I guess the my main point is: who cares?!
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: JMP2203 on April 23, 2009, 09:52:33 PM
i care, what the problem with that?
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: MDV on April 23, 2009, 10:06:06 PM
i care, what the problem with that?

Nothing.

I think what bens trying to say is the pickup will be fine, its just the label.
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: JMP2203 on April 23, 2009, 10:54:03 PM
well thanks anyway.

now im going to instal my new warpig and i hope its a ceramic one

Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: MDV on April 23, 2009, 11:01:41 PM
well thanks anyway.

now im going to instal my new warpig and i hope its a ceramic one



:twisted:

Enjoy!
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: WezV on April 23, 2009, 11:03:32 PM
yeah.  i think the issue is that custom pickups sometimes ship out in the same boxes with the same instructions as the standard models

if you ask for a C-pig you will get a warpig box and warpig instructions... but you asked for a C-pig so that will be in the box


have faith that the pickups are custom and made to order - but the label and instructions are not.

maybe next time BKP have some labels printed for the side of the box they can add magnet type to the tick boxes along with the 6 current options
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: dheim on April 24, 2009, 08:30:25 AM
it happens, it happened to me too, but pickups are ok.
if you had an alnico MM it would be a true rarity, i'd say...
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: MDV on April 24, 2009, 02:49:40 PM
Uh, maybe I've just been lucky
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: dheim on April 24, 2009, 10:46:40 PM
Uh, maybe I've just been lucky

i don't know... i think it happened just once... i ordered a mixed set of mules (A5 bridge, A4 neck), and the spec sheet claimed they were both A4... i asked Tim just for curiosity (well, they sounded good anyway, i'm not the kind of person that would send back something he likes just for a detail) and he told me that they were as i oredered and that sometimes who writes down the specs does it the way he's accustomed to, and so some error can happen with custom pickups...

don't really care, anyway.
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: Bradock PI on April 24, 2009, 11:13:03 PM
Its for things like this that aftersales service is there, just ask! I am sure you will get a clear and curteous response and all doubts will be removed.
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: Ivan on April 24, 2009, 11:54:35 PM
Its for things like this that aftersales service is there, just ask! I am sure you will get a clear and curteous response and all doubts will be removed.


I agree; the after sales (and pre sales) service is one of the great things about this company.

If you want to be know for certain, I'm sure you could send them back and have them verified.

Also, forgive my ignorance, but if they're supposed to be ceramic as opposed to Alnico IV... can't you just install them in your guitar and listen to them?

Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: indysmith on April 26, 2009, 10:34:54 PM
You've got to remember that asking for different magnets in your pickups is a 'non-standard' option and as such they might not print the paperwork to go with it, but I'd be very surprised if BKP sent you the wrong pickup.
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: ericsabbath on April 27, 2009, 04:33:33 AM
just check the magnet side and height
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: JMP2203 on April 28, 2009, 04:52:54 AM
just check the magnet side and height

can you elaborate that please
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: CaptainDesslock on April 28, 2009, 05:06:55 AM
^ Same here.

I guess the my main point is: who cares?!

If you order PRODUCT A and what you receive is labeled PRODUCT B its a legitimate concern, I respect BKP as a company and their product but its childish just because you like the product to give a free pass on their mistakes.
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: ericsabbath on April 28, 2009, 07:48:16 AM
just check the magnet side and height

can you elaborate that please

ceramic usually looks dark gray on the sides
alnico 5 looks shiny and metallic
and alnico bars used on pickups aren't as thick as the ceramic bars used by Tim


Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: Bradock PI on April 28, 2009, 08:45:02 PM
Could always take a picture and post it here I am sure people will be able to cofirm the type?
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: ailean on April 28, 2009, 09:06:04 PM
^ Same here.

I guess the my main point is: who cares?!

If you order PRODUCT A and what you receive is labeled PRODUCT B its a legitimate concern, I respect BKP as a company and their product but its childish just because you like the product to give a free pass on their mistakes.

Mistakes happen, I'd be mildly ticked off if I got a mis labeled product, but not much. If I got the wrong product I'd be more annoyed.

I don't think anyone gives a 'free pass', but if you like a product and think it is good then you'll tolerate a mild annoyance, and of course the more highly you rate a product the more willing you are to tolerate.

JMP has a point, he has a reason to doubt what he received, and that undermines your faith in something. I think disgusting is a bit strong :) but hey, if that's how he feels.

I hope you get the answer to your question easily JMP :)
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: Dr. Vic on April 30, 2009, 07:16:12 PM
^ Same here.

I guess the my main point is: who cares?!

If you order PRODUCT A and what you receive is labeled PRODUCT B its a legitimate concern, I respect BKP as a company and their product but its childish just because you like the product to give a free pass on their mistakes.

+1
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: JMP2203 on June 01, 2009, 02:32:27 PM
update:

my warpig WAS actually an alnico v, my local luthier looked the magnet an confirm to me its alnico v not ceramic, this its not Tim problem since i order the pickup from an north-america dealer.

but i contact Tim and he is now changing the magnet and send it the pickup back for free, also mod it the feet to triangular(Ibanez style)

conclusion, i recommend wherever you live order the pickups DIRECT from Tim.

sorry for my poor english
Title: Re: mislabels specs on pickups?
Post by: Rocklobster93 on November 03, 2010, 11:09:29 AM
i got 3 BKP bridge pickups in the last months, MiracleMan, Nailbomb and Warpig, all 7-string and ceramic magnet.

On an unrelated note... How do they sound? Which one do you prefer? I've been looking at these exact three for a project.