Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Dr. Vic on April 29, 2009, 01:15:52 PM
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Which BKP will the the closest to the D-sonic fitted as standard in his music man ?
And with which rig would it combine well to nail the sound of "pull me under" (amp / pedal ?) ?
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I'm not sure whether it's very close to the D-Sonic, but Tim recommended Nailbombs to me for the JP tone (Ibanez RG), lots of muscle but really good cleans. Amp would be Mesa Mark IIC+ or Roadking/Lonestar, an Acoustic Sim or just Chorus/delay would help with the clean tone for 'Pull Me Under'.
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don't know about which BKPs, but if you're talking about the images and words album version of pull me under, I'm guessing he wasn't using a d-sonic then as it's a relatively new pickup, i think.
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And with which rig would it combine well to nail the sound of "pull me under" (amp / pedal ?) ?
I guess he used a tonezone (bridge) and a humbucker from hell (neck)
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quite possibly, I'm not sure of the exact pickups he used, but that sounds plausible. :)
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Petrucci used the steve's special and a humbucker from hell for images and words then moved to the Air Norton (or a variant of) for the neck position in his ibanez JPM model. the cleans are the two hb's split in the centre position.
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Petrucci used the steve's special and a humbucker from hell for images and words then moved to the Air Norton (or a variant of) for the neck position in his ibanez JPM model. the cleans are the two hb's split in the centre position.
I don't think the steve's special is that old
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Tim told me for that petrucci sound you need a ceramic he recommened the painkiller for me!
As for amps and fx Mesa Mark IV, Eventide Time factor , BB preamp , RC booster and Keeley compressor have gotten me the perfect scenes from a memory tone which is my all time recorded tone
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Well.. I realised that I asked for 2 questions in one ! :lol:
so the first one will be : which BKP is the most similar to the Di Marzio D-sonic (ceramic) fitted as standard in the Petrucci musicman guitar ?
the second one is : What BKP would you recommend to nail the riff of "Pull me under" with an all mahogany superstrat (neck thru design) ? I have the 2007 remastered /remix version of this song and the sound is an ABSOLUTE blast. Love it so much. Here is (only) the standard version. The riff starts at 0:17
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/portnoy/video/x2e6zy_dream-theater-pull-me-under_music
Mesa seems to be the amp to consider but....ceramic or not ceramic ?
Tim told me for that petrucci sound you need a ceramic he recommened the painkiller for me!
I'm not sure whether it's very close to the D-Sonic, but Tim recommended Nailbombs to me for the JP tone
:gne:
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Tim recommended the Nailbomb to me for the Basswood RG, but i was also looking at the Ibanez S series (mahogany), which he recommended Painkillers for.
Quote from Tim's email to me:
The Petrucci tone requires a little more power (than Chris Brodericks) and I usually recommend the
Painkiller 7s for that and I'd definitely go that route if you go with
the mahogany S7320. If you decide to go the RG route I think Nailbombs
will give you the versatility to cover Dream Theater to Satch etc and
they always seem to be a staple fav of the 7 string players.
Hope this helps
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nice quote from Tim, thanks ! 8)
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From the clip i would say ceramic
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thanks guys.
Any idea of how the D-Sonic does sound like ? And a BKP equivalent, as far as it is possible to say....(I really had bad experiences each time I've tried a Dimarzio, and there is so many models available...)
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I found it to be rather dark in all the jp6's i played but that could also be the guitar
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uhm... it doesn't sound like something too special (i mean tone, i listened to that song maaaaany years ago an d i remember it was quite cool), nailbombs should achieve it with eyes closed...
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...and i'm not sure that painkillers will. they have got a very different mid response, even if they're both hi-mids heavy.
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And with which rig would it combine well to nail the sound of "pull me under" (amp / pedal ?) ?
I guess he used a tonezone (bridge) and a humbucker from hell (neck)
thats correct for that album he later moved onto Steve Special and Air Norton.. u want that sound u go Miracle Man & Cold Sweat imho..
u want the earlier tones nailbomb combo wud probably be closer with a basswood guitar imho.