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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 06:44:34 PM

Title: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 06:44:34 PM
for example:

http://jacksonstars.fender.jp/catalogue/category/detail.php?gid=3&cid=14&iid=00104&stid=1243878129 (http://jacksonstars.fender.jp/catalogue/category/detail.php?gid=3&cid=14&iid=00104&stid=1243878129)
(http://jacksonstars.fender.jp/js_item_img/00104_main.jpg)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: sgmypod on June 01, 2009, 06:47:59 PM
Body yes neck no
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: AndyR on June 01, 2009, 06:57:40 PM
ummm...

That particular one qualifies as a "pointy guitar" for me :lol: (ie the Japanese is welcome to keep it :lol:)

But I do kinda know what you mean :)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 07:03:32 PM
ummm...

That particular one qualifies as a "pointy guitar" for me :lol: (ie the Japanese is welcome to keep it :lol:)

But I do kinda know what you mean :)
:)

i bet theres more than a few AndyR friendly Jap-specials out there though...
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Oli on June 01, 2009, 07:09:07 PM
Body yes neck no

I'll go halves with you then? I don't like the look of the body- looks like the top of a cheap desk (with pickups on)!
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: AndyR on June 01, 2009, 07:18:28 PM
ummm...

That particular one qualifies as a "pointy guitar" for me :lol: (ie the Japanese is welcome to keep it :lol:)

But I do kinda know what you mean :)
:)

i bet theres more than a few AndyR friendly Jap-specials out there though...

Exactly.
And right at the moment, I really don't want to see them :lol:
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: _tom_ on June 01, 2009, 07:23:09 PM
I think your definition of "cool" is much different to mine, gwEm :P
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Philly Q on June 01, 2009, 07:27:18 PM
Body yes neck no

Neck yes, body... not sure.

Is this inspiring a project, gwEm?
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 07:52:48 PM
Body yes neck no

Neck yes, body... not sure.

Is this inspiring a project, gwEm?

in a way philly - i fancy a rhoads V, but i don't fancy paying alot for it... i'm saving up for a couple of other things more important, so i can resist.
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: badgermark on June 01, 2009, 07:57:51 PM
the japanese fenders are super awesome. more interesting finishes on their mustang and jaguar models than you can shake a stick at.
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Adam.M on June 01, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Japan get all the cool stuff, wish I knew where to look to find them!
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 08:06:59 PM
I think your definition of "cool" is much different to mine, gwEm :P

you love a bit of maple fingerboard action tom - you know it!
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: WezV on June 01, 2009, 08:07:17 PM
i quite like that
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 08:08:37 PM
but the thing is why japan gets such cool stuff - is it a massive market for the electric guitar, the wild japanese tastes, or that they are high-quality guitar producers themselves
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Philly Q on June 01, 2009, 08:15:52 PM
but the thing is why japan gets such cool stuff - is it a massive market for the electric guitar, the wild japanese tastes, or that they are high-quality guitar producers themselves

Probably all of the above.  But it is interesting that there are so many Japanese-market-only models.  Quite a few of them would sell internationally, I think, and wouldn't infringe any Fender or Gibson trademarks.
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: WezV on June 01, 2009, 08:42:48 PM
thats because its the japanese distributors that get to say what they order.  the uk distributors rarely request models in the same way, but then we dont have the buying power of the japanese guitar market
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: JDC on June 01, 2009, 09:44:01 PM
oooo that's pretty!

take the pick guard off, gimme a floyd and a nicer piece of wood for the body, make some pinstripes out of ebony ;)

I'm quite surprised the body is made from ash, all the jackson rhoads Vs I've seen have been alder
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 09:52:09 PM
oooo that's pretty!

take the pick guard off, gimme a floyd and a nicer piece of wood for the body, make some pinstripes out of ebony ;)

I'm quite surprised the body is made from ash, all the jackson rhoads Vs I've seen have been alder

they've also done mahogany, swamp ash, popular and walnut...

you might like the walnut actually - in the same series as the one i posted
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: _tom_ on June 01, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
you love a bit of maple fingerboard action tom - you know it!

Nothing wrong with that, its the rest of the guitar that I dont like!
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 11:30:11 PM
you love a bit of maple fingerboard action tom - you know it!

Nothing wrong with that, its the rest of the guitar that I dont like!

prefer this one then? :)

(http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/panther/sexyfinger_v2.jpg)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Philly Q on June 01, 2009, 11:39:11 PM
Is that a real guitar, or a Photoshop mock-up?
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 01, 2009, 11:40:53 PM
Is that a real guitar, or a Photoshop mock-up?

that is the 'sexy finger VII' of course!!

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/panther/index.html (http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/panther/index.html)

:)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Philly Q on June 01, 2009, 11:51:36 PM
that is the 'sexy finger VII' of course!!

I'm sure that name is completely innocent, but it sounds absolutely filthy....

Anyway, it's hideous.

I am, though, fascinated by some of those J-Rock signature models.  I'm sure playing-wise they're pretty standard, but the look is such an important aspect.   And I'm intrigued by the whole world of Visual Kei (probably got my terminology totally wrong there  :roll: ), it seems so completely alien.
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: _tom_ on June 01, 2009, 11:52:59 PM
Oh dear..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/tomr61/0a1fedf1.gif)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: hunter on June 02, 2009, 01:12:53 AM
yeah what about this  one?

(http://www.ikebe-gakki.com/img/goods/1/1/63086_b.gif)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Ratrod on June 02, 2009, 09:58:40 AM
That's a question that has haunted the Gretschpages too. There was a Silver Penguin and a white Electromatic Pro-Jet among others. Very cool guitars.

Japan is huge market for electric guitars and they like the odd ball stuff. I think Japan is also used as a test market.
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Philly Q on June 02, 2009, 10:21:00 AM
If the exchange rate ever improves, I want one of these:

(http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/ishibashi/cabinet/guitar2/sas1500.jpg)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Crazy_Joe on June 02, 2009, 11:46:49 AM
The guitars pictured are bad, but i know what you're saying about the Japs getting exclusive versions of guitars which i drool over daily!
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: mecca777 on June 02, 2009, 12:20:09 PM
I would have one of those "Rhoads-meets-JEM" Circuit V Panther sig models in a heartbeat, I really would. Just for the cognitive dissonance of playing clean-toned post-punk on a guitar that looks like somebody fished it out of CC Deville's recycling bin. :)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Dr. Vic on June 02, 2009, 08:52:33 PM
Yeah it's something odd to see there is always special stuff made for the Japanese :japon: : guitar, CD... For instance there are so much bands who put some additional materials in their releases for a special  "japanese version" that is impossible to find or cost *$%ù!§ thousand billion $$ dollars.
Awful !   :gib:

Anyway the Rhoads is one of my favorite guitar. Angular ? Yes (moderately) but also very high class and confortable to play. Nevertheless I'm not keen on this japanese version...Don't like the ash looking and don't fancy that maple neck w/ black inlays  :lol:

If you don't intend to go for a US model I think the RR5 (very classic Rhoads looking) is the best option AND the fixed bridge design is stunning and that guitar.

(http://www.dv247.fr/assets/products/54517_l.jpg)

 PDT_011
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: gwEm on June 02, 2009, 11:20:55 PM
you know - i wish the gold hardware on the 'classic' ivory rhoads would be black...
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Dr. Vic on June 03, 2009, 07:30:32 AM
Yeah I know.....me too  :lol:

But I think you can get a black hardware set from directly from Jackson, without too much problems, and for an affordable price, and then.......you'll be there !  :twisted:
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Muttley on June 03, 2009, 09:37:45 AM
Anyway the Rhoads is one of my favorite guitar. Angular ? Yes (moderately) but also very high class and confortable to play. Nevertheless I'm not keen on this japanese version...Don't like the ash looking and don't fancy that maple neck w/ black inlays  :lol:

If you don't intend to go for a US model I think the RR5 (very classic Rhoads looking) is the best option AND the fixed bridge design is stunning and that guitar.

I'd love one of those.  :)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: Crazy_Joe on June 03, 2009, 06:51:52 PM
you know - i wish the gold hardware on the 'classic' ivory rhoads would be black...

You can, however you have to have a floyd rose on it.

It's called the RR5FR

(http://admin.jacksonguitars.com/images/products/products/2913003848_md.png)
Title: Re: why does only the japanese market have such cool limited models? :(
Post by: shobet on June 03, 2009, 07:27:59 PM
Jackson also have a custom shop that will build you what you want, at a cost. They used to have a habit of getting the specs a bit wrong on occasion though...