Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Jonny on July 14, 2009, 09:26:59 PM
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So for now it's "New Bridge Day", as I just received my Ibanez Edge Pro Cosmo Black from Thomann today. One of the locks for the strings has come off but I think it just came loose and fell off, hopefully.
Got paid today so I instantly dropped an order for Painkillers in black to head my way. I also have tuners and Martin's cabinet to come. Plus some cables from Cleartone. So I'll fill this thread with tons of pics.
So, the Edge Pro for now:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/RG08LTD/IMG_0462.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/RG08LTD/IMG_0463.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/RG08LTD/IMG_0464.jpg)
Replacing:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/RG08LTD/IMG_0467.jpg)
In:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/RG08LTD/IMG_0466.jpg)
More to come :)
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Listening to: Evile - Infected Nation (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/evile/track/infected+nation)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)
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nice :D what's the sustain block like on the edge pro?
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nice :D what's the sustain block like on the edge pro?
Well its not installed as of yet, but physically it's not just a straight block it's more like.. a thicker block then smooths into a thinner block, but thats only on one side.
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nice :D what's the sustain block like on the edge pro?
Well its not installed as of yet, but physically it's not just a straight block it's more like.. a thicker block then smooths into a thinner block, but thats only on one side.
The angled block lets you lower the trem more than a straight block.
I replaced the blocks on my original Edges with www.floydupgrades.com brass blocks. The tone is better but the range of the trem is reduced.
It's a shame that your RG has the modern smaller rout, if it was the older style you could fit an original Edge (and I just happen to have an unused gold NOS one around here I'm looking to sell).
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how much better is the tone, and how reduced is the range?
I mean do you notice the difference? can you still do dimebag squeals? :)
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how much better is the tone, and how reduced is the range?
I mean do you notice the difference? can you still do dimebag squeals? :)
I'd say it's fuller, clearer and more balanced. Of course these things are difficult to measure.
However I can measure the range (see how I did that link? clever eh) The downward range is the same as before on my 540R and RG550 (the arm touches the body) but the thicker block stops against the body when pulling up on the 540R (I can raise the G string by minor 3rd). The RG has a different route and I can pull up until the strings flat out on the frets.
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.....Martin's cabinet to come.
Just emailed you some pics as it's ready to ship. Not long now!
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Well its not installed as of yet, but physically it's not just a straight block it's more like.. a thicker block then smooths into a thinner block, but thats only on one side.
thanks. any idea what it's made of? just out of interest. :)
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NEW UPDATE!
I got my Gotohs in the post, my Cleartones in the post and pictures from Martin of my cab in my virtual post!
PICS. PICS. PICS. PICS. PICS.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00536.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00537.jpg)
You can faintly see the word 'GOTOH' on them in this picture, my phone isn't that great.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00538.jpg)
Guitar cable and speaker cable from Cleartone :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00539.jpg)
What I've and some people have been waiting for, MY GUITAR CABINET- which is still with Martin, lol..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/jonnycab005small.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/jonnycab004small.jpg)
BKPs to go!! (picture wise that is)
And sorry Dave, I don't know sadly a far-fetched guess would be steel possibly, like their knife edges. I think.
Well its not installed as of yet, but physically it's not just a straight block it's more like.. a thicker block then smooths into a thinner block, but thats only on one side.
thanks. any idea what it's made of? just out of interest. :)
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Oh christ on a stick, that's 1 sexy looking cab! Never seen snakeskin looking so good :)
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I like that cab!
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no worries. very nice cab, by the way. :)
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Martin's sent it today- I'm standing home tomorrow in hopes I'll be united. Finally!
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oh cr@p... that cab looks superb. Great choice :O
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It's Friday! And I'm setting up camp in my living room keeping at my watchpost looking out for the yellow van of brilliance. Here's hoping!
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More pics from today, postman came and gave me a nice box shaped package.
What I've been doing. Internet. Scuzz with G'nR on. Cup Noodle and to the right is the window where I'm keeping post.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00541.jpg)
Bloody awesome photo.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00542.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00543.jpg)
Also an update that Martin said the cab wouldn't arrive in time and it'd come on Monday but I'm trying to get a tracking number etc and try and ring DHL to see if I can pick it up. But I don't even know when it'll arrive so I need that tracking number Martin, ASAP!
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Nice cab
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scuzz for the win. though rock fest and the hair metal etc. sections on vh1 classic are better, but they're only on for an odd hour here and there.
planet rock radio actually is probably the best bet for decent odds of hearing something good. :)
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Radio 6 has some good stuff going on dependent upon the DJ spinning the discs.
Its Brucie on tonight and I might just cop a listen.
And I still think that's a damn nice looking guitar, even if it does make you look like a window dresser.
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A window dresser?
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snakeskin cab FTW!
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I'm surprised at the reception to my cabinet, I thought many would hate it, lol..
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I am in mixed minds as regards the engraved scratchplate.
On the one hand it is refreshing to see something a bit different (i.e. something other than a generic skull or sticker/penis extension.) for a design on a guitar but on the other hand it reminds me of doily patterns from certain angles.
The cabinet on the other hand is pure class.
All you need is an attractive woman to straddle it and you have a premium piece of '80s guitar-related-peripheral porn.
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I am in mixed minds as regards the engraved scratchplate.
On the one hand it is refreshing to see something a bit different (i.e. something other than a generic skull or sticker/penis extension.) for a design on a guitar but on the other hand it reminds me of doily patterns from certain angles.
The cabinet on the other hand is pure class.
All you need is an attractive woman to straddle it and you have a premium piece of '80s guitar-related-peripheral porn.
I was actually thinking about replacing pickguard, just for a colored reflective one or something but I chose to keep it. It's original.
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I would agree with you as I couldn't imagine anything else looking any better on it;- it is somewhat of the essence of that guitar in a way.
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Hey guys, thought I'd re-bump this to say I got my RG back from the guitar shop.
I went in with my Indie Dragon to get it set up (and later sold) and the guy in there told me my RG was ready (having not rang me) so I was most excited and eager to play it again with the Painkillers in it, the Edge Pro awesome-ness and basically holding it again.
I plugged it into their Orange TT and played a few riffs, tried the clean sounds, every position, etc. then I said to myself:
"Hmm, that's a little out of tune."
"Yeah, he hasn't tuned it since it was set-up, he didn't have to touch that bit when he was fixing the back"
And so I tried getting a tuner to get it back into tune and stuff but to no avail as it would probably take me longer than the time I had (I had to work) so I was hoping they would, and seeing as the action was like a diving board's distance to the fretboard and it wasn't intonated.
But the guy said for me to do it myself, which kind of caught me off guard. Like I know how to tune a guitar, but.. oh well, I don't know..
The Indie's in, the RG's out.
Oh, and they fixed it by putting in an extended backplate so it goes over where the two cracks were.
Pics when I get home. I'm having ALL the luck right now I feel.
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yet more unacceptable customer service!
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Jonny, what are you doing mate?
I only ask this because it seems like you are in some kind of abusive relationship and some of it must be your fault. This is unacceptable but you are accepting it.
Are you telling THEM what you are telling US?
Are you appearing to be satisfied?
Why are you still doing business with them?
Stand back, stop and think.
Then YOU change things!
Good luck dude.
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Jonny, what are you doing mate?
I only ask this because it seems like you are in some kind of abusive relationship and some of it must be your fault. This is unacceptable but you are accepting it.
Are you telling THEM what you are telling US?
Are you appearing to be satisfied?
Why are you still doing business with them?
Stand back, stop and think.
Then YOU change things!
Good luck dude.
I don't know where else I can get my guitars set up. The guy that dealt with the whole RG problem wasn't in, so I will most definately rant at him tomorrow or whenever he's in. Plus with the Vigier still unpaid I'm going to be giving them even MORE money, but I think if its going this shite I might just demand money and accept nothing else.
I am getting angry but I guess I should show some backbone..
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Don't get angry.. just be honest.
Agree an acceptable outcome then only work toward that resolution.
Then walk away and learn how to work on your own guitars.
Draw this sorry episode to a close and don't add to it.
Madness is doing the same thing and expecting different results. :?
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In the other thread I said if it was me I'd let them keep the Ibanez and demand the full price of it in cash or exchange against another guitar I like, pissed on the counter and walked away.
Extending a back plate wouldn't be good enough for me by a long shot.
I don't wanna be rude but what's going through your head when you're accepting it?
Don't be afraid to let them know what you think - you don't have to be aggressive about it just assertive.
For the sake of 30 quid mail costs you can get your guitar to Feline and back to be setup.
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if the repair was solid, i think i would accept the extended backplate as a nice way to cover it up.
really shocking that the guitars weren't setup though.
set ups aren't too difficult to do yourself though - i would take this route in future.
and naturally you'll soon have the vigier too.
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Some Pics:
The two cracks were just an inch or two below the two screws for the neck joint, and the green tape is to show where the cracks were, its measured across where the polescrews/pickups from the front and then to the back. As you can see he extended the backplate.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00575.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00571.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00572.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00573.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00574.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00579.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00580.jpg)
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Well.... Why not show us the area under the plate where the cracks were?
Looks like they did a good job so far but the pics don't demonstrate anything other than cosmetics so far.
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paul, the manager in matchetts is pretty decent for setups (and pretty cheap, too, assuming the prices have only gone up with inflation). Or there's that luthier dude pete griffin who did a very good fretcrown for me. You definitely have other options, even here in NI, than the BGE if you don't like their service (and from the sounds of it, you'd be perfectly entitled not to like it).
Not trying to go on at you or anything, but it's best to ask first about where else you can go, rather than deal with the consequences later. If i'd known you needed other guitars to be set up, I'd have told you where else to go, but i didn't. :(
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Well.... Why not show us the area under the plate where the cracks were?
Looks like they did a good job so far but the pics don't demonstrate anything other than cosmetics so far.
Yeah, as it stands I have to say it looks OK.
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I've also just realised I didn't get the tremolo arm back from the kit I gave them, as well as the allen key I gave them. I feel really stupid..
Anyways, here's the backplate (or pickguard blank?) off.
I don't know why he had to cut out the area WIDTH wise..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00583.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/GrimReapo/DSC00585.jpg)
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I went back today, spoke to the guy that I usally deal with for everything. Told him how the other two assistants treated me and everything else, how I wanted to just pull out and walk away with money.
On the downside I couldn't leave with money and we had a talk etc. plus the fact they sold my Edge III with the Edge Pro tremolo (daft bar-stewards) and he (not the one I usually go to) said: "It was the only one there you had and we couldn't sell a tremolo system without the tremolo bar", now I'm going to have to ge ANOTHER one.
On the upside, they misplaced my allen key (which are always bloody annoying to get), and gave me this full Swiss army knife type thing for guitars.
He also told me to bring in my RG (again) to get it tuned, my Indie will be tuned (I brought it in yesterday) and the Vigier - I can take home with me, drop a deposit of £100 for it, got £50 off for it and I have such-and-such left to pay for the next few weeks.
So pics of the Vigier when I get home. It's sitting right beside me at work but I can't play it - the pain, the unbareable pain.
Anyways, this looks like the story is heading towards a good ending or direction, let's hope it goes that way.
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Vigier - I can take home with me, drop a deposit of £100 for it, got £50 off for it and I have such-and-such left to pay for the next few weeks.
Imo that's really really good of them, I've never known a shop to let you put down a deposit and take the gear away untill you've paid in full and atleast it looks like a decent job - albeit a gurning backplate.
Look forward to a ngd thread 8)
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Mmmmmm..................... OK PDT_038 PDT_043
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Mmmmmm..................... OK PDT_038 PDT_043
Sorry Dave.
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as long as you're happy, that's the main thing. :)
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as long as you're happy, that's the main thing. :)
Amen PDT_003