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At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: Johnny Mac on July 18, 2009, 11:21:04 AM
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I got layed off work yesterday. Business has ground to a halt and the firm I work for are 100 grand down a month.
Now what?
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I feel your pain :(
I have 2 older brother, my oldest brother has been made redundant 3 time in the last 9 month. My other brother was made redundant in January, I was made redundant in April. An entire generation of my family put out-of-work... and the banks (who caused all this sh*t) are giving them self f*cking bonuses :roll:
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Sorry to hear this guys :(
I seem to be reasonably safe so far, but I've had it twice in the past, so I know what it's like (and that no-one is actually safe...)
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Really sorry to hear that mate. :(
Keep your chin up.
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Sorry to hear it Johnny, what kind of work were you doing? I was laid off twice this year, decided to re-skill as a Plumber and if you go with the right company, the government will pay for it. I had the choice of Plumbing, Plastering, Carpentry and Electrician. I'd have preferred Carpentry but Plumbing gives better constant work prospects and better money.
Might be worth looking into mate! :)
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P*sser Johnny. I came close to losing mine a year ago and have been made redundant twice and got a pittance of a pay off each time. The retraining idea seems like a good one to me.
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Sorry to hear that Johnny. :(
Did the compensation for your accident get sorted out?
...and the banks (who caused all this sh*t) are giving them self f*cking bonuses :roll:
Let's not use the term "the banks" too loosely. The senior executives at the banks are giving themselves big f*cking bonuses.
My brother has worked for NatWest/RBS for 26 years - he doesn't get big money or bonuses, and he came within a whisker of being made redundant last week. Whereas the new chief exec stands to make a £6m bonus if he (ever) gets the share price up to 78p. The ordinary staff are as pissed off with the situation as everyone else.
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Yes, by 'the banks' I mean those in control of the bank, who are making money from sacking their own workers :evil:
In the same way when someone says 'the government' they don't mean junior civil servants :wink:
NB 'the banks' and 'the government' are (in some cases) one and the same, even though they are trying there best to make it look otherwise :lol:
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Thanks lads. No Philly the settlement is still being sorted out.
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best wishes mate
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Sorry to hear it Johnny :(
Hope something comes up
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That sucks mate, sorry to hear it. Is there much work going around for you? I assume if your firm are down then others in the same industry must be too. (Haulage, right?)
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That sucks mate, sorry to hear it. Is there much work going around for you? I assume if your firm are down then others in the same industry must be too. (Haulage, right?)
No its dead, there have been 1000's layed off so there isn't much prospect of finding a similar job.
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sorry to hear that, johnny :(
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That sucks mate, sorry to hear it. Is there much work going around for you? I assume if your firm are down then others in the same industry must be too. (Haulage, right?)
No its dead, there have been 1000's layed off so there isn't much prospect of finding a similar job.
Yikes :(
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Sorry to hear that, Johnny.
Do you need to stay around London, or can you look elsewhere?
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Sorry to hear that Johnny, welcome to the club though, same happened to me already quite some time ago.
Hope you still have some savings or a working wife to bridge the gap til the next job.
If somehow possible enjoy the time a bit and create some healthy distance to the past.
Good luck on your search!
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sorry to hear that,
Funnily enough I had something must like that happen to me a while back, me and my dad both worked for a tutoring service and we were both called in for a "meeting" only to discover we were both fired at the same time! Pops was fired cause he good with the paperwork but bad the system, and I was fired for being good with the system and bad with the paperwork. The irony left me laughing in tears.
On another note, what is "made redundant" mean as in job-wise? That's most definitely a UK phrase, I'm guessing means the company says your job is up in the air and you could be fired?
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I'm scared of this scary depressing world.
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On another note, what is "made redundant" mean as in job-wise? That's most definitely a UK phrase, I'm guessing means the company says your job is up in the air and you could be fired?
It means that the job/role itself - as well as the person - is no longer needed by the organisation, so they "have to let you go" (if you find out that they subsequently gave your job to someone else, then the position wasn't genuinely redundant).
It's different from being fired, because there's no suggestion you've done anything "wrong". Under UK law you're entitled to compensation - there's a legal minimum amount, based on your age and how long you've worked there, known as "statutory redundancy pay", but many employers pay more than the statutory amount.
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this is bad news, needless to say. i'm also worried about my job, the only thing i can do about it is work hard. no idea what i'd do if i lost it.. i'd need a couple of weeks to calm down and think about it i guess.
my best wishes mate
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the recession should be peaking around about now, although you still get job losses for the 6 months after the peek
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Sorry to hear about that Johnny. I hope you can find something.
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Really sorry to here that Johny. I hope you get lucky and whatever the next job is you love it.
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Sorry to hear that Johnny. I understand how you feel - I got told last week that I'm being made redundant at the start of September. Total stitch-up by a company using the recession as an excuse to make cuts, but it's left me pretty screwed. There's no jobs in the same field (print media/journalism) within a 50 mile radius, and I moved into a flat of my own in April. On top of that, I can't move away right now, so it's got to be commutable distance for a new job. Time for a career change i think.
I hope things work out ok for you, and for anyone else who finds themselves in the same sh!tty situation.
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Sorry to hear that Simon :(
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Sorry to hear about you too Simon, there seems to be a few of us affected in here by the recession.
I'm well and truly $%&#ed! There is no work...
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I went along to see about joining the f**king Territorial Army but as I'm left handed and left eye dominant I can't use a bloody SA80 Rifle without tearing my face and hitting myself with hot shell casings ....
I'm so disparate for change but I'm not even fit to be shot at.. :(
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the recession should be peaking around about now, although you still get job losses for the 6 months after the peek
Personnally I don't think this will be the case. I think it's going to get a lot worse and draw itself out for a bit. I can see it easily lasting a few years.
Hope all you guys all find something before yo ahev to give the job centre a visit, I hate that place.
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Yes... It's not over yet!
They call it a "double dip" depression.
I've been a right misery predicting this "dead cat bounce" for a while & here is my rationale...
- You've held back your spending/borrowing since the financial terror of Oct/Nov 08
- You have benefited from low interest rates for months so you've maybe got more money in your pocket than before the "recession"...
- You feel the worst must be over by now...
- You are still in work Aug 09...
- You get SPENDING AGAIN!
THEN... AFTER THE ELECTION 2010 - you are no longer being protected from market reality by Gordon & other scared politicians seeking re-election...
The SH1T really hits the fan....
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I also think that as this one is GIANT global balls up then we're going to see it elongated as well as get worse. Still that's the system that we work in and it can be predicted to happen every 10-15 years. Things will go down to sustainable level, then everyone will get greedy/dumb again, everything will seem rosey for 10-15 years and then it will all happen again. It's the same as the curves for house prices, they're not too far off each other.
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and on top of that after we get rid of the incompetent Scots, we have 4 and probably 8 years of Lord Dave Snooty and his nasty smarmy Eton chums to look forward to in government. Things are not looking good :?
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There are 3 Scots in the current cabinet and 16 from the SE of England :wink:
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Yeah, don't want to bring politics into the forum but I really hope that knobhead doesn't get in to power. I work in the electric industry and we're still realing from the last time they got their hands on it.
I think with the global nature of the problem, then I think people have been a bit quick to point the finger at the polititians. Obviously there's plenty of other things we can have a go at the usless bunch of arses for :lol:
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The term "Global" does not mean anything of substance really... Plenty of places in this world are doing just as well or as badly as ever before.
In the UK, this isn't an "Act of God".... individuals & institutions ARE responsible and we/they should be held accountable.
Or we could all just let everybody get away with it... and start the cycle again & again & again...
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we have 4 and probably 8 years of Lord Dave Snooty and his nasty smarmy Eton chums to look forward to in government. Things are not looking good :?
agreed. i want brown and co out, but not if they're going to be replaced by the tories who are arguably either exactly the same, or even a bit worse. :lol:
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Theres only one way forward - true socialism. Take back everything the was nationalised and put it back under state control - banks, public transport, energy markets, the whole lot. The government will invest 'profits' back into the state rather than some corporation's offshore bank account so we can make real headway with education, hospitals, roads etc. The state bank will offer a high standard of socialised housing so that people don't NEED to buy property, though if people DO want to buy property, 100% mortgages will be offered at reasonable interest rates so that owning your home is not out of the reach of anyone (providing you work of course, the lazy arsed dole-scum can $%&#ing rot).
Anyway, theres my hat firmly into the political arena.
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I went along to see about joining the f**king Territorial Army but as I'm left handed and left eye dominant I can't use a bloody SA80 Rifle without tearing my face and hitting myself with hot shell casings ....
I'm so disparate for change but I'm not even fit to be shot at.. :(
I'm a left-eye dominant and therefore a left-handed shooter too... didn't know that until I went clay pigeon shooting last year... it would explain why i never hit the target during CCF all those years ago!
Sorry to hear about your job Johnny, hope things look brighter soon.
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I went along to see about joining the f**king Territorial Army but as I'm left handed and left eye dominant I can't use a bloody SA80 Rifle without tearing my face and hitting myself with hot shell casings ....
I'm so disparate for change but I'm not even fit to be shot at.. :(
A shooting buddy of mine is losing site in his dominant eye, he is working on firing lefty...
If you are that desperate for a change, it may be worth it.
I'm not entirely sure of this, but the HAC in London are a bit of a special TA lot, I think they may use a bigger variety of weapons.
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I'm not entirely sure of this, but the HAC in London are a bit of a special TA lot
They're all a bit "special" in the TA. :lol:
But as long as their mums have packed them lunch and they have their mittens with them, they'll be fine.
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my quote's not working at the moment, so i'll just have to copy and paste:
"Theres only one way forward - true socialism. Take back everything the was nationalised and put it back under state control - banks, public transport, energy markets, the whole lot. The government will invest 'profits' back into the state rather than some corporation's offshore bank account so we can make real headway with education, hospitals, roads etc. The state bank will offer a high standard of socialised housing so that people don't NEED to buy property, though if people DO want to buy property, 100% mortgages will be offered at reasonable interest rates so that owning your home is not out of the reach of anyone (providing you work of course, the lazy arsed dole-scum can $%&#ing rot).
Anyway, theres my hat firmly into the political arena."
I don't think that'll work. While I agree that several things which were privatised should be renationalised (e.g. trains), and stuff like PFI should just be plain abandoned as it's the worst of both worlds (govt shoulders the risk, while the private companies get to keep the profits), I don't think we need pure socialism to make things a lot fairer. you could certainly make things a lot fairer by just having sensible policies, and stricter penalties for dudes at the top of companies screwing everyone else over etc.
Plus I don't think that 100% mortgages thing would work, either- one of the reasons for the property boom was too-easily available credit which pushed prices ever higher.
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Reading this thread made me think it would be helpful to put up the jobs in Manchester thread. I thought I was being helpful to people.
Seems like it's been taken down :(
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I can still see it Matt, maybe just a forum glitch :)
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Just realised that what with me being a c--k and all I've put it in seconds out
Sad thing is I could probably sell people jobs in the current climate
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Sad thing is I could probably sell people jobs in the current climate
I've been offered a couple since the troubles started. Anyone's welcome to mine if I go somewhere, it's cr@p. Admittedly I'm sitting at home playing on the internet which is good, but I'll get an email or a phone call in a minute and it'll all be cr@p again.
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Sorry to hear that Simon :(
Sorry to hear about you too Simon, there seems to be a few of us affected in here by the recession.
I'm well and truly $%&#ed! There is no work...
Cheers guys. I know what you mean Johnny, there's no work in my line either. Seriously considering looking for something straightforward and temporary and doing a qualification in something like project management in the evening, but I dunno if that's even feasible.
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I think there are qualifications to have in project management, but I've not come across any for a while. Don't think any of the PM's that I've worked with have any formal Project Management quailifications. It appears to be something that you get into and can't quite work out how.
It's alright when the works there, but if there's no projects then you're in the same boat as everyone else. I'm lucky as my projects typically last a few years so I may be able to ride it out. Saying that though, in a year or two when the current batch are done with it's going to be a very different situation.
What we're you doing before, anything that can be transfered into project management?
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Probably not - I'm a soon-to-be-ex journalist, trained on magazines but ended up on the local fishwrapper. I have communication skills coming out of my ears, and I'm pretty savvy with print design and Photoshop, ok with content mangement systems and pretty bright and adaptable, but I don't have an engineering background or anything like that.