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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Stevepage on July 20, 2009, 07:04:16 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bC0A9TXpm0
These guys are hilarious
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Steel Panther have been talked about on the forum quite a few time :)
Check out some of the live stuff, their singer has a great voice.
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oh no... :(
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Genuis. I think this is what Justin Darkness would like to have achieved but he got a bit confused.
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they are excellant live
Saw them in London last month - possibly the most fun I've had at a gig in 20 years
oh no... :(
Dave_mc raises a good point when he says that musically he loves what they do but the lyrics are **pretty banal/offensive/ just so rude that once the amusing novelty wears off you kind of wish they had alternate versions of the songs with more traditional lyrics
** my interpretation - think Dave just said they were awful
In context I like the lyrics , because I can have a laugh at all the bands I grew up with without losing any affection for them and the playing and PRODUCTION on the Feel The Steel album is top notch.....much better than the previous versions of these songs that they released previously
I also saw two members of the band as Atomic Punks (Van Halen tribute band) and they were better than seeing Van Halen IMO
Justin played on their album and played with them live for two songs (incl cover of Believe In Thing Called Love)
Genuis. I think this is what Justin Darkness would like to have achieved but he got a bit confused.
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Dave_mc raises a good point when he says that musically he loves what they do but the lyrics are **pretty banal/offensive/ just so rude that once the amusing novelty wears off you kind of wish they had alternate versions of the songs with more traditional lyrics
** my interpretation - think Dave just said they were awful
yeah, that's exactly what i mean. :( Just add in the fact that finally a good new hair metal band comes around, and they spoil it with the lyrics. :lol:
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great band. heard about them not long ago. but i'm not really a fan of bands who try to be funny. i look to separate places for my comedy and my music. i agree, great band, but the lyrics ruin it.
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^isnt the whole point that the lyrics are "bad"/funny? They wouldnt be any good if they were a serious band!
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I want to hate it
Its hair metal, which is balls
And its comedy metal, which is pointless (so much metal is comedy without even trying)
And its juvenile shitee
But I lol'd.
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Err - they have announced more live dates
Get in there if you like them!
Sadly its the same night as Schenker in London
I may have to go to Brum to see SP this time
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They wouldnt be any good if they were a serious band!
Its hair metal, which is balls
:shock:
There's another reason why I don't like them, mr feline. it gives extra ammo to those who think hair metal is a joke genre, that you can only play or enjoy it if you're being "ironic". :lol:
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oh no... :(
Dave_mc raises a good point when he says that musically he loves what they do but the lyrics are **pretty banal/offensive/ just so rude that once the amusing novelty wears off you kind of wish they had alternate versions of the songs with more traditional lyrics
** my interpretation - think Dave just said they were awful
I'm pretty much with Dave on this one.... the lyrics are meant as a joke, but it doesn't stop them being actually quite offensive, which makes me quite uncomfortable. Imagine if they were being racist rather than just horribly sexist and a bit homophobic, they wouldn't get away with it. "I was only joking" isn't good enough.
Sorry to be all puritanical about it.
I can understand the Darkness comparison, but I always thought The Darkness were right on the edge of parody without quite going over - they were obviously aware of the stupid/funny aspects of glam metal, but they also loved it and were still part of the tradition. Whereas Steel Panther are totally taking the piss. They even wear wigs, FFS (I know many "real" metal musicians wear wigs, but they pretend they don't and we pretend we haven't noticed....)
You almost wonder if they're a bit contemptuous of the music they play, rather than actually enjoying it.
I also saw two members of the band as Atomic Punks (Van Halen tribute band) and they were better than seeing Van Halen IMO
That I can believe. EVH is a trainwreck live, but Russ Parrish is note-perfect. He used to play in a really good Rush tribute band as well.
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I'm pretty much with Dave on this one.... the lyrics are meant as a joke, but it doesn't stop them being actually quite offensive, which makes me quite uncomfortable. Imagine if they were being racist rather than just horribly sexist and a bit homophobic, they wouldn't get away with it. "I was only joking" isn't good enough.
Sorry to be all puritanical about it.
I can understand the Darkness comparison, but I always thought The Darkness were right on the edge of parody without quite going over - they were obviously aware of the stupid/funny aspects of glam metal, but they also loved it and were still part of the tradition. Whereas Steel Panther are totally taking the piss. They even wear wigs, FFS (I know many "real" metal musicians wear wigs, but they pretend they don't and we pretend we haven't noticed....)
You almost wonder if they're a bit contemptuous of the music they play, rather than actually enjoying it.
exactly, philly. :)
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It is a joke genre isnt it? :lol: :P
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It is a joke genre isnt it? :lol: :P
I know you're only winding us up, but...
Fun All the time.
Intentionally Stupid Occasionally.
Unintentionally Stupid Hmmmm...... quite often. :|
Joke Never. Well, hardly ever.
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You almost wonder if they're a bit contemptuous of the music they play, rather than actually enjoying it.
No - not all all - they love it and they are damn good at it
watch clips of them doing covers (often better than the original artist) and you know they love the music
Anyway - it's a fun gig to go to !
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^ yeah, i mean i guess they couldn't really hate it if they practiced so much to get so good at it. I guess, to rephrase my reply to philly's previous post, they give off the impression that they don't really like that style of music (which can be just as bad, especially with such a maligned style of music as hair metal). :)
I know you're only winding us up, but...
Fun All the time.
Intentionally Stupid Occasionally.
Unintentionally Stupid Hmmmm...... quite often. :|
Joke Never. Well, hardly ever.
agreed
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I didnt say it was a joke genre, I said it was balls!!! ;)
Hair metal isnt any worse for these guys being hair metal, these guys are worse for being hair metal!
Besides, they seem to me to be a Dethklok sort of thing. Silly, yes, trying to be funny, yes, but I suspect they honestly love the genre, but just arent afraid to make light of its dafter parts.
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^ yeah, i mean i guess they couldn't really hate it if they practiced so much to get so good at it. I guess, to rephrase my reply to philly's previous post, they give off the impression that they don't really like that style of music (which can be just as bad, especially with such a maligned style of music as hair metal). :)
Yeah, I'd agree with that, didn't phrase my earlier comment very well. I'm sure they do like the music, but they take the piss-taking too far.
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^ yeah. kind of lost on those who don't like it, kind of thing.
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I got the album yesterday, completely pissed myself laughing in the car on the way to work this morning, and I'm buying tickets for the Manchester show at 9am :lol:
I think they're great, but I can see why you could class them as offensive. If you're in that camp, then for gawds sake don't go and see the filme "Bruno"...
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Raplh Saenz doesn't have a wig does he? His does actually look authentic.
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Okay now that was confusing. I accidentally had something else on in the background, and I was thinking the singer's voice certainly sounds like that guy out of system of a down... Then I realised - DoH!
I definitely chuckled at that. Yeah it's mildly offensive, but not to any appreciable degree. I'd happily level the accusation of over-sensitivity to anyone getting offended by that ;)
Death to all Butt-Metal! :)
Roo
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If they could name their new album "Balls to all Death Metal" I'd be made up. :D
I think these guys are great, they can play, their singer can sing and they remind me of all the best excess stories I heard about my favorite bands....after I'd cleaned up myself. Their lyrics are no worse than Jackyl, and AC/DC come pretty close at times.
I'd love to see a serious interview with the guys behind the personas though.
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I think they're great, but I can see why you could class them as offensive. If you're in that camp, then for gawds sake don't go and see the filme "Bruno"...
i don't think that's fair. I haven't seen bruno yet, but from what i've read, i don't think there's anything in it which would offend me. there's a difference between parodying homophobia and being homophobic, kind of thing (ditto misogyny). Maybe steel panther are only a parody too, i dunno. but it's too close for comfort, kind of thing.
I'd happily level the accusation of over-sensitivity to anyone getting offended by that ;)
:roll:
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I knew you'd love these guys, Afghan!
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OK, agree to disagree about the lyrics, I think musically they're entertaining enough.
But that was bollocks. Like Poison or Warrant at their absolute worst.
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steady on, now, philly, poison and warrant kicked ass. EDIT: that verse sounds very like something else, but I can't think of it off-hand.
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Poison and Warrant had some good songs, even some great ones - but they also had an awful lot of utter shite.
There are probably exceptions (I can't think of any right now), but I hate these drippy wave-your-lighter-in-the-air acoustic ballads. :x
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ah, that's true, good point.
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OK, agree to disagree about the lyrics, I think musically they're entertaining enough.
But that was bollocks. Like Poison or Warrant at their absolute worst.
Here is my theory on it.....
As bad as Warrant or Poison
- that was the whole point
There is a HUGE degree of irony going on here and it hinges on events that happened in the late 80s as far as I see it
You had bands like Motley Crue, ratt, and later on Poison, Skid Row Warrant, Firehouse etc
Many of these bands either lived lifestyles reminiscent of what you read about in Motley Crue's book "The Dirt"
If these bands had written songs from the heart they would have been party songs and full of debauchery for the most part and they would have rocked hard like many songs on their albums.
But the songs in question were the ones that these bands released as singles
The record labels put stupid amounts of pressure on all these bands to write and release songs that would get radio airplay , and have heavy rotation on MTV and be big hits.
Bon Jovi were one of the first to find a formula for doing this that worked and the pressure on the other bands got higher
So as a result we got Poison's Every Rose has it's Thorn
Skid Row released I remember You (same chord sequence as Every Rose)
Warrant released Heaven
Insert other releases here
Etc etc etc
the lyrical content of these songs was so sweet and saccharine that it almost made you gag
It was to a degree a polar opposite of the rowdy lifestyles these guys were leading
Sure they can all have proper relationships and express their feelings but it was often in tandem with another lifestyle on the road.
"And what happens on the road stays on the road"
I just feel that Steel Panther have shown up this in this particular song.
It's like what these bands would have written if they were writing the truth
I'm no prude but I didn't actually enjoy the video so much - I find that the song is much better without a literal video interpretation - allowing you to paint the story in your head.
I also like the bittersweet line in the last verse:
" I see your face every time I go out and cheat"
** anyone who has not read "The Dirt" should really take the time to , just to understand the zeitgeist of the time these bands lived in
It's a good read too!
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I've got to say, Jonathan, that's a very erudite and intelligent interpretation of what Steel Panther have done in this song - and of what other bands did in this type of song. I know you like the band a lot, and I think you may be crediting them with more sophistication than they actually have, but fair enough. :)
I also like the bittersweet line in the last verse:
" I see your face every time I go out and cheat"
Nice, but I find it impossible to ignore the fact that the previous line goes:
"I think of you and I can't help but fondle my meat" :|
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Jon, dont you think you might just be overthinking it a little?
Maybe?
Just a tiny bit?
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I don't think he is, I think they are making a lot of money from calculated decisions
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Well they might be thinking about it, but thats no reason for anyone else to!
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"I think of you and I can't help but fondle my meat" :|
Pure poetry!
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i'd still rather listen to them if they weren't trying to be funny...
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Their whole selling point is that they're a pisstake hair metal band though.. isnt it?!
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I think they are pretty much holding the door wide open for another band to come along and make an impact with good songs riffs, and non humorous lyrics.
Everybody is ready for that band now - they just have to get their act together and make it happen
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Their whole selling point is that they're a pisstake hair metal band though.. isnt it?!
yeah, of course it is. but the fact is they do have talent and they could be a great band, rather than just a funny one. all of their covers are awesome, just wish they did some real music that wasn't just trying to be funny.
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I AM a prude, and that IS hilarious!! It's raunchy guy humor and it is extremely funny. I don't think they're serious a bit.
Loads of sight gags (no pun intended)
Excellent riffage on the leads.
It's almost like an American version of Spinal Tap.
These guys should record some "serious" tracks under a psuedonym. Obviously "Steel Panther" is 80's hair metal parody all the way.
I did an 80's night parody thing awhile ago, it was loads of fun. Everyone coming to the show was encouraged to dress in they're most outlandish 80's fashions... The crowd was great!
Half a dozen bands, one set each, we headlined. Just a very fun and crazy night. Definitely there is a market for this type of thing and I suspect Steel Panther will do quite well.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb76/guitarzan_1/FunnyStuff/80sNite.jpg)
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Whats the opinion on Eyes of a Panther?
It doesn't seem so much a pisstake as the rest of the music, it seems to me like what they want to write themselves...
If its a parody song like the others, which band is it of?
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Their whole selling point is that they're a pisstake hair metal band though.. isnt it?!
yeah, of course it is. but the fact is they do have talent and they could be a great band, rather than just a funny one. all of their covers are awesome, just wish they did some real music that wasn't just trying to be funny.
Maybe they just can't cut it with "real" material, because it creates a different kind of pressure. I think some people can relax and have fun playing other people's songs - or parodies of other people's songs - but when they try to do their own material they feel it has to be "better" or "more important" and they end up taking it too seriously, even if they don't intend to.
Russ Parrish is obviously a terrific guitarist, but maybe he's just a natural journeyman - like Keri Kelli and Alex Grossi. Between them, those guys seem to have been in every past-their-best hair metal band, but they've never really recorded anything of much interest.
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anyone who has not read "The Dirt" should really take the time to , just to understand the zeitgeist of the time these bands lived in
It's a good read too!
I second that - it's a very good read and has short enough chapters so that it doesn't feellike a battle trying to get through it. I'm not sure it would have felt like a battle anyway as the material is very well written - it just made me feel like I was making progress quickly.
Not sure what band Eyes of a Panther is based on - I like it though. I don't think Hells on Fire was too offensive either (can't actually remember if it is or not though!)
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if you like comedy metal, check out my bands 'side project' - www.myspace.com/brieseed
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I love "Eyes of a Panther" although today my favourite is "Turn Out The Lights"
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"I think of you and I can't help but fondle my meat" :|
Pure poetry!
comedy genius - thats on par with Tap's Sex Farm Woman
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Rather than start a new thread, I'll dig up this oldie ;)
Opinion is divided of course, but I'm off to see Steel Panther in Manchester tonight :D Review tomorrow. I'm expecting a seriously good night out to drag me out of my man-flu doldrums........
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I'm sure you'll have a good time! Would love to go myself.
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They're playing at Nottingham Rock City on Thursday 29th OCtober, and for £12.50, there's no way on earth I'm NOT going (providing I can get a ticket atleast!)
Now all I need to do is talk a mate into coming with me :lol:
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Have fun. The show has a lot of energy!
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Just got back home :D
Probably the best "show" I've ever been to. Absolutely superb! I'll call it a show as there was clearly some backing track stuff going on (guitar harmonies, some vocals etc) but such a great night out! I won't spoil it for anyone who's going to any of the gigs, but I will say that it has the best solo guitar break I've ever seen. I usually hate guitarist widdlefests but this was something else! :D
The best £11 I've spent in a long time!
And Afghan Dave - you HAVE to go to one of their gigs!