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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: yellowv on July 31, 2009, 06:42:18 PM

Title: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on July 31, 2009, 06:42:18 PM
Hey guys I am thinking of getting a Jackson Sl2H. Which is a maple neckthrough with alder wings and ebony board. I was thinking of possibly a C-Pig in the bridge and a Nailbomb in the neck. Would that be a good combo in a bright guitar? Or would I be better off going with Alnico in the bridge such as a regular Nailbomb or Alnico Pig? The guitar would be tuned to B standard and would be used mainly for melodic death metal. I want the bridge all out brutal and the neck to be smooth and fluid. Thanks.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Zaned on July 31, 2009, 07:18:07 PM
I think you're right on your Warpig selection. How about a set of warpigs? That's what I would I probably go for.
Whether you should get a A5 or ceramic warpig for the bridge, depends on the amount of tightness wanted. Any sound samples you're aiming for?

-Zaned
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Jonny on July 31, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Painkillers are apparently the cats pajamas in alder, just listen/read all of Antag's stuff on this board. He is a Jackson fanatic.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on July 31, 2009, 07:34:35 PM
Really? My dealer actually has my PK there, but we both figured it would sound like a mess in alder so he was going to swap it out for me.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 01, 2009, 12:45:29 AM
Okay well I think I'm going to go Warpid set. W/ a C-Pig in the bridge. Now the question is open coil or covered. This is the VERY green soloist they are going in.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/yellowv/DSCN5098.jpg)
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Antag on August 01, 2009, 09:06:14 AM
PK works nicely in alder/maple neck-thru Jacksons - I have one in my KV2.  I tune to Eb but you're going right down to B, so I don't think you'll have any problems with it being too bright.

Far from being "a mess", I find the PK has the mids you really need to get the best out of a Jackson.  FWIW, clip here (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11926.0)

As for Warpigs, I've never tried a CPig, but I'm certain the APig would work well - it sounded pretty damn good in my detuned Gibson (clip here (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11728.0) & in Davey's bolt-on Jackson, so between the two I speculate that it would do "all out brutal" in anything :twisted:

Just to answer the quesiton of what wouldn't work, IMHO the Miracle Man would be my last choice (not enough mids), followed by Cold Sweat.  While I love the Holy Diver in Jacksons, it wouldn't be my first choice for tuning right down.

Nice Jackson BTW :D  if I was putting a BKP in that I'd go for plain black open poled, possibly requesting black allen poles & slugs (if not a WP).  Covers just don't look right in a Jackson to my eye, but if I did go for covers it would be black w/black allen poles.  YMMV etc...
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on August 01, 2009, 10:02:53 AM
Okay well I think I'm going to go Warpid set. W/ a C-Pig in the bridge. Now the question is open coil or covered. This is the VERY green soloist they are going in.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/yellowv/DSCN5098.jpg)

Ouch - my eyes, my eyes

That IS very green
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: WezV on August 01, 2009, 10:35:24 AM
they could have got a bit more green in if you ask me.  green inlays for one thing, maybe even green anodised hardware ;)
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Prawnik on August 01, 2009, 11:40:22 AM
I had no idea that The Joker played Jacksons. I always had him pegged for a jazzer.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: ericsabbath on August 01, 2009, 01:36:18 PM
I had no idea that The Joker played Jacksons. I always had him pegged for a jazzer.

that would require purple zebra rebel yells  :lol:
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: gwEm on August 01, 2009, 02:04:02 PM
defo double purples in there...

i always wanted a green guitar, but never found the right one

have a maple through neck, alder wing jackson with ebony board - painkiller fitted to that and i find it has a bit too much attack. i think thats because i have just a volume control on that guitar - adding a tone control (or simulate it with discretes) would take enough of the edge off it i reckon.
(that might be a good project for this weekend actually)

might consider a miracle man in there, i had one in a maple through neck once and strongly approved of the tone.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 01, 2009, 04:06:29 PM
Thanks guys. I am set on the Pigs. Probably going to go open coil with black screws. Except no you crazy bar-stewards have me thinking about purple pickups w/ purple knobs. I wonder if Tim would do purple Pigs. That would look nuts.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: badgermark on August 01, 2009, 06:33:07 PM
Thanks guys. I am set on the Pigs. Probably going to go open coil with black screws. Except no you crazy bar-stewards have me thinking about purple pickups w/ purple knobs. I wonder if Tim would do purple Pigs. That would look nuts.

Could always get your green pickups rewound to Pig specs. If you like the green that is.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 01, 2009, 07:02:06 PM
You know I never thought about that.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: ericsabbath on August 01, 2009, 07:31:32 PM
nah, go purple
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: gwEm on August 01, 2009, 07:38:33 PM
nah, go purple
+1
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Copperhead on August 01, 2009, 08:11:28 PM
nah, go purple
+1

Barney Guitar!!!

(http://www.trolocsis.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/barney-731895.jpg)
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: ericsabbath on August 01, 2009, 08:20:13 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 01, 2009, 08:59:32 PM
No it would be the Hulk guitar. I am going purple if Tim will do some purple Pigs.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/yellowv/hulk4.jpg)
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Afghan Dave on August 01, 2009, 09:15:31 PM
F**k yes... PURPLE!

(and we want pics ASAP)  :P
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 01, 2009, 09:29:23 PM
I'll post pics when i get the guitar. As for the purple I hope Tim will do it, but I doubt it. From what I remember the purple was only for regular spaced Rebel Yells.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 01, 2009, 09:37:57 PM
Ooh I may be wrong I see Tim did a purple and white Warpig for a Hello Kitty Strat not too long ago. Maybe he can do it for me. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Afghan Dave on August 01, 2009, 09:50:23 PM
I'm 99.9999999% sure Tim can do it!  :P
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Will on August 01, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Nolly has a purple VHII I think, and I have raygun covered Miracle Men
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 01, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
Oooh now my hopes are really up. That guitar would look sick with purple pickups and knobs.
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Lew on August 02, 2009, 03:40:28 AM
Awesome finish!!!
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 04, 2009, 02:53:49 AM
Well it appears I may be out of luck. Tim told my dealer he could only do the 50mm spacing in purple. I e-mailed Tim to see if maybe he is just out of 53mm purple bobbins and may be able to do it in the near future, but I think I'm SOL and will probably just have to go black. Although I think I recall reading something that said he only could ever to purple in 50mm. I wonder if the couple of guys who used them in normally F-Spaced guitars just used the 50mm. I wonder how much it would effect the tone?
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: gwEm on August 04, 2009, 10:45:09 AM
i have to say, i can't really hear a differece. i have a 50mm pickups in f-spaced guitars and 53mm pickups in g-spaced guitars. i figured with ceramic magnets the fields will be pretty strong anyway
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Will on August 04, 2009, 11:49:21 AM
I do believe Nolly put his in a Floyd'd guitar with the compromise.

+1 on not noticing much difference with the spacing
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: yellowv on August 06, 2009, 05:16:50 AM
Thanks guys and also Nolly and Tim. I pm'ed Nolly and he said Tim told him 50mm was good enough for EVH :) Also Tim said that with the twin screw poles of the C-Pig it has a very wide magnetic field and the spacing would make no difference. So I have purple pigs on the way :) I also have a set of purple knobs coming for it as well as a purple dimarzio cliplock. I actually plan on using the purple ends and the green center section of the strap to have a green/purple strap. Should be cool :)
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Roobubba on August 06, 2009, 09:10:11 AM
Hahahah brilliant! Look forward to seeing this when it's done :)

Roo
Title: Re: Alder?
Post by: Dr. Vic on August 06, 2009, 09:15:39 AM
what a crazy project, that guitar is going to look totally sick !

Pics wanted !  :D