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Forum Ringside => Players => Topic started by: MDV on January 04, 2010, 05:20:47 PM
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3702469/Memento%20Mori.mp3
The track is called memento mori, which if youre unfamiliar with yer medieval catholic dogma means Remember You Must Die (intended to be a cheery ditty about living your life fully since it ends, however, rather than the threat of damntation....anyway, vocalist hasnt finished writing them yet and enough prattling about non-gear stuff)
Its recorded through my powerball with the Legra MDV602 with a c-bomb left and the aurora with "The Aftermath", as I call it right. The aftermath is a pickup that Tim made custom for me thats designed to be exceptionally tight and percussive, with a prominent mid. Its ceramic, tripple magnet, about 15k, dont know the gauge, double screw pole (allen pole actually, but anywho) and is ferociously precise and clear.
There is a little tiny bit of 5 through 6 k increase on the guitars, more on the c-bomb as it doesnt cut as well, and some compression on the 200hz and down on the 602/cbomb because its low end is a little less controlable. Other than that they are untreated.
The cab is my ubercab, the speaker is a V30, the mic is an MD421 pointed more or less at the join between the dust cap and cone, straight and right up against the grill. The cab was shielded from room reflections (small room, 3.5 ish by 4m, nasty reflections) with plywood boards covered in acoustic foam and it fired down a 10m+ arch that joins two rooms because I didnt like the dead sound of a totally closed off cab, and chance would have it that I can arrange it like that in my house.
Drums are sup 2.
Harmonies have an NT1A on them about 5 inches back and off axis, more or less to the centre of the cone and mixed down about 9db. Just to add a bit of different character to seperate them slightly.
Hope you like it.
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That's great; it's so good to hear all that work turned into something tangible. Proof positive that guitar engineering beats fairy dust and voo doo BS every time.
Thanks. :D :D
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You can hear that the Aftermath is a very grindy pickup. Probably more so than a Painkiller. Sounded pretty cool. The Nailbomb sounded pretty cool too.
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That's great; it's so good to hear all that work turned into something tangible. Proof positive that guitar engineering beats fairy dust and voo doo BS every time.
Thanks. :D :D
Very value-neutral statement there bob! :lol: Its not to everyones taste, for sure. I hope that this gives some idea what I was blathering on about to you for months/years with the 'very heavy, thick, but tight clear and defined' thing though! The recording doesnt capture what I know these guitars are capable of, but its probably my best yet, and I figure the best way to go about audio engineering isnt to make any given attempt the best you possibly can, you just get stuck in endless cycles of iterative improvement of minutia with that and never get anything done: its to do the best you can in reasonable time with each one and always make the next one better. If anyones weird enough they can chart my AE skills progression on this very board and tell me if thats the case or not! (No, I dont recommend anyone do that, or want anyone to! I'm just saying I think that each is better than the previous and I intend to continue like that).
Steve, its got a similar grind to the PK, but I found, just my opinion, that the PK can suffer from some spikiness in the high mids and a little boxiness in general. The Aftermath does not. It breathes more, and is tighter and more precise but less constrained. Superb pickup - well done Tim; he made something very special with this pickup.
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nice work man, can we hear one of the guitar tracks in isolation so we can hear it grinding a little better without the distraction of the drums ????
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nice work man, can we hear one of the guitar tracks in isolation so we can hear it grinding a little better without the distraction of the drums ????
Sure I'll do it tomorrow.
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AHHH! Forgot.
Anyway, I'll mix down the left, right and both guitars later.
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Awesome work. Sounded great through some cheapy Sony MDR-XD200 HEAPHONES. Will blast it out later through some different speakers to compare :).
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That's great; it's so good to hear all that work turned into something tangible. Proof positive that guitar engineering beats fairy dust and voo doo BS every time.
Thanks. :D :D
Steve, its got a similar grind to the PK, but I found, just my opinion, that the PK can suffer from some spikiness in the high mids and a little boxiness in general. The Aftermath does not. It breathes more, and is tighter and more precise but less constrained. Superb pickup - well done Tim; he made something very special with this pickup.
sounds like it could be the sort of thing I'd like in my Carvin. Or even my new Strat.
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Cheers craig.
Busy fixing guitars last night (all fenders coming in for electronics and correction of frankly daft factory setups), so never got round to rendering the guitars on their own. Have some work to do on my own guitars tonight (new strings arived!! thats the only problem with newtone; the wait! Couple of nuts I've been putting off doing right too) but I'll see if I can get round to the guitars only bit
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Blimey Mark that sounds brilliant! :D Great playing too. The two guitars together really sound beefy. I panned the balance back and forth a few times to hear them on their own and they both have some great tones.
Great bit of music, interesting riffs and drums. I liked that part just before there was one drum on its own. Also those harmonys, really nice touch! You have some good ideas!
Did you do any of that frequency slotting at all?
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Thanks mate! (and for your comments in the recording thread too!)
I did to an extent, and also tried to use a bit of overlapping to blend things as well. Basically, beacuse of the low tuning, its 20-40ish hz is mainly bass, which is then knotched out from 40 to 80ish for the kick, I swept around with a parametric to find the tonic of the kick, which was in the vicintity of 60 hz, knotched that up, then the guitars start to come up and the balls of them starts to really happen round 100 (bear in mind this is drop A#, so thats about 58hz) and they're blended with a bit more bass round there, the low mids through to about 5k are pretty dominated by the giutars, the snares got a bit more 100ish hz for punch and then its hyped up a lot round 8 to 10k, the ovherads are hyped from 10 up, and the kick has a bit of slap sitting above the main range of the guitars at 5k (one of the problems with this is high extension of the guitars, but I know what I did wrong and next time it will be better) and also has some more body at about 1k, and is pretty scooped between there and about 100 (which may have been a mistake).
On the other hand, the low end of the OH and the top of the guitars are intentionally sitting on each other to a degree to smooth and blend the guitars, and bass and guitars and kick have spaces in the lows and low mids where they are each dominant, but theyre somewhat twisted together into a locked-in whole as well.
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Interesting guitar tones, certainly grindy and tight in the low end. There are some distracting resonances in the upper-midrange that could be carefully EQ'd out without changing the character.
Now you should work on the rest of the mix, the bass guitar and kick drum are barely audible and the rest of the drums lack power. Maybe try foregoing the frequency analysis and trust your ears :)
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The frequency analysis was done with my ears ;)
Dont know what you mean about the resonances. The JD10 I used as a (very slight) boost puts a little bit of odd phaseyness in the top end that was hard to minimise (and I found it impossible to EQ out without killing the attack), maybe youre hearing that?
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Great tones and great tune MDV - the new Legra with Aftermaths sound wicked ably helped by some excellent playing!
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Cheers Tim :)
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I think I need an exploding head emote to accurately comment on this track.
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:lol:
Thanks.
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Great tones and great tune MDV - the new Legra with Aftermaths sound wicked ably helped by some excellent playing!
Is "The Aftermath" now the official name for this pickup? 'just wanted to know for when I need to order some more.
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Great tones and great tune MDV - the new Legra with Aftermaths sound wicked ably helped by some excellent playing!
Is "The Aftermath" now the official name for this pickup? 'just wanted to know for when I need to order some more.
Not to put words in Tims mouth, but thats not my impression....while he was impressed with the technical skill in the source material ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0n2Ew2RS4o ) I dont think he was entirely taken with it!
I'm sure he'll know what you mean though.
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Very good playing and certainly 'very tight and well defined'. Mean tone and great production.(not my cuppa tea though.....i don't know how to do one of those yellow smiley faces.)
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Thanks mate. Each to their own musically, of course.
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A link from the "any new BKPs" thread led me here...
Excellent stuff MDV. Some good ole tones in here. I'm not sure how I'd be able to use it personally, but I'm liking the sound of this custom pickup...
You're no slouch on the playing and arranging either :D
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Great tones and playing, sounds very aggressive. Just wish the mix was a little better, can hardly hear any drums or bass (unless your intention was to show off the guitar tone in which case I suppose it's fine!).
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Cheers chaps
Andy, thanks! I think youre the only person thats commented favourably (and specifically) on any of my arrangements - the kind comments on the my playing are lovely, recognition of your peers and all that, cool, but I put a lot of work and thought into the (admitedly very simple) arrangements, agonising over this riff and that, this timing or the other, layering this with that and all the rest, will come up with 50 riffs and choose only one because it fits in a way I like, and yeah, I know I'm not really very good at it and arranging is the single biggest thing that I need to improve, but its nice to see someone noticed! :D (translation - I find it really hard! I can come up with riffs all day, but composing a proper tune is much harder to me).
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I'm not going to analyse what you've made, because to do so with the little time I've got to listen through wouldn't do any justice.
I just wanted to say that I really like the structure of the piece. Enough variety to keep me interested through the whole lot, and obviously the skill level is very high and that also helps keep the listener interested.
Comparing the two pickups (I'm listening through Shure E420 in-ear phones), I must say the aftermath really blew me away. Great midrange grind maintaining that uber tightness in the low frequencies - superb sounding pickup. I much prefer it over the ceramic Nailbomb in this clip. For me, the C-bomb lacks both punch and clarity when compared with the aftermath. That's not to say it isn't punchy and clear, mind - the aftermath really is extreme on these fronts!!
I've been toying with the idea of swapping out the black dog for something ceramic in my baritone just to see what it sounds like (I was advised away from ceramics when Wez was making this guitar). I might chuck in my MM from the Ibanez and see how that sounds. I have 6 sets of Newtone Strings just delivered, so now would be a good time for a pickup swap!
I'm sorely tempted by this Aftermath, now!
Good work!
Roo
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Thanks Roo!
Awesome, glad you like it! Especially, again, the structure :D
The Aftermath is a very special pickup. Tims got something awesome going on with this metal titan!
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Thanks Roo!
Awesome, glad you like it! Especially, again, the structure :D
The Aftermath is a very special pickup. Tims got something awesome going on with this metal titan!
I just had another listen, and I wanted to add that while I prefer the aftermath to the c-bomb in your clip, they work together really well.
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Interesting ovservation!
Certainly I used the different guitars in the hope that the different sounds panned would work together and widen and deepen things up, but I rather thought in the final sound that they were too different, and considered in future using different gutiars with the same kind of pickup in to keep difference left and right, but close the gap slightly...duly noted, thanks.
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Was there a bass on this? When I hear I the solo drum section I think it needs a bass over it or fading out guitars
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Was there a bass on this? When I hear I the solo drum section I think it needs a bass over it or fading out guitars
Yes.
And I like the jarring change there, from chaos and destruction of the preceding riffs to really sparse drums with the tempo drop and quarters and eights with 16th rests tagged on them; changes the dynamic for the next bit in a way that I like.
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thought that might be the case, maybe a bit of boost/compression on the solo drums for more beef
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Guitars sound great and the riffing is great as well.
The drums and bass could use a bit more beef. At 5:46 you can hear the bass guitar only very subly, almost in the background, and I'm using good studio headphones.
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Good tones man, but I cant really hear much of a difference. It sounds like the C-nailbomb is mixed higher anyway. The song is good, but definitely needs some sick vocals to top it off. The drums could definitely be mixed a bit better, with more kick punch preferedly, and a bass guitar would help round things out.
Overall, good job. Heavy tones. So when's this Aftermath gonna be available anyways?
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OK guys, I know this is a pickup forum but what about the guitar; no one mentions the guitar! Gonna go and salsh my wrists. :lol:
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Totally. the pickups are great, but the guitars (both are your work, remember bob :lol:) are utterly instrumental (all puns are most assuredly intentional) in getting the sound tight, punchy and clear in this low tuning. Thats what they were made to do.
In fact, all the pickups I've tried in both (just two in the aurora, but quite a lot in the 602) sounded abnormally tight and clear.
Tri, it has bass on it. Its blended into the low end of the guitars.
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Bob - blame MDV for NOT INCLUDING PICTURES OF THE AXES.
In fact, I might be tempted to claim that this didn't happen until the pics are here! ;)
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Happy now :P
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Happy now :P
OH YES. :)
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Indeed.
The other ones on the legra site, but its trans-black now and has a 456 instead of a 455. And odd pickups (ones black open coil, ones battlescarred, but I dont really care).
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Wow. Much appreciation goes out for making this clip - as there just aren't enough original, tastefully-minded, extreme metal users in any of these forums (boutique amps, pedals, guitars, all the way to pickups). The track isn't even necessarily my style, but good lord is it a refreshment to see a pickup demo use something beyond Led Zepplin covers and Dream Theater clones. It's a killer and well done song, Anyways....
I saw that the pickup was designed from the source material of ORIGIN, hence the Preliminary name "The Aftermath". This is a great band, as they are about the only thing in death metal (in my HO) doing anything new and different sounding (aside from Portal). With some commonality in musical tastes, and high respect for your guitar tones, i'd like to ask if you had ever used anything different from BK, besides the C-bomb and this new "Aftermath"? Had you tried the regular Nailbomb and decided to change out the the Alnico for a ceramic?
Basically, i'm on a search for a great new bridge pickup and am hard-pressed to find advice from those with even remotely common tastes. If you'd care to share any information with me it would be greatly appreciated!
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Thanks, and welcome.
You'll find us a quite diverse bunch here, so welcome, and stick around. There are other tracks of good-ass metal that are as good as and better than mine on players, too, so keep looking round.
It wasnt really designed to do origin, it was designed to do ultra-tight, fast metal rhythm playing. I gave it the name 'Aftermath' because that song fits the precision ferocity the pickup delivers, rather than sounds like it (if you want to sound like origin, its got "81" all over it)
I have tried the normal nailbomb and found that it lacked the tightness I want in low tunings. I've also used warpigs, ceramic and alnico, painkillers, miracle men and cold sweat from the contemporaries in the bridge. I used EMGs for years and currently have a guitar with Blackouts in (bought it with them, dissapointing, not a patch on my BKs).
Maybe if you start a thread in Pickups and say what youre after with a bit more specificity (they're all cabable of extreme metal and all very different) then we can help you choose something.
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Thanks, and welcome.
You'll find us a quite diverse bunch here, so welcome, and stick around. There are other tracks of good-ass metal that are as good as and better than mine on players, too, so keep looking round.
It wasnt really designed to do origin, it was designed to do ultra-tight, fast metal rhythm playing. I gave it the name 'Aftermath' because that song fits the precision ferocity the pickup delivers, rather than sounds like it (if you want to sound like origin, its got "81" all over it)
I have tried the normal nailbomb and found that it lacked the tightness I want in low tunings. I've also used warpigs, ceramic and alnico, painkillers, miracle men and cold sweat from the contemporaries in the bridge. I used EMGs for years and currently have a guitar with Blackouts in (bought it with them, dissapointing, not a patch on my BKs).
Maybe if you start a thread in Pickups and say what youre after with a bit more specificity (they're all cabable of extreme metal and all very different) then we can help you choose something.
Specificity? My English teacher would turn in her grave! Mind you the way you all spell DEFINITELY wrong would get her going as well.
:lol: :lol:
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Spelling Nazi's....sigh.
-MDV, thanks for your warm reception. It sounds like you've used all of the pickups i'm interested in - would you mind if i sent you a PM, as to not hijack this forum?
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Spelling nazi that built both the guitars I used in this track.
But, yes, I have to echo that sentiment ;)
And I dont mind at all.
No one else would mind if you started a thread in pickups either; it is what its there for.
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Thanks, and welcome.
You'll find us a quite diverse bunch here, so welcome, and stick around. There are other tracks of good-ass metal that are as good as and better than mine on players, too, so keep looking round.
It wasnt really designed to do origin, it was designed to do ultra-tight, fast metal rhythm playing. I gave it the name 'Aftermath' because that song fits the precision ferocity the pickup delivers, rather than sounds like it (if you want to sound like origin, its got "81" all over it)
I have tried the normal nailbomb and found that it lacked the tightness I want in low tunings. I've also used warpigs, ceramic and alnico, painkillers, miracle men and cold sweat from the contemporaries in the bridge. I used EMGs for years and currently have a guitar with Blackouts in (bought it with them, dissapointing, not a patch on my BKs).
Maybe if you start a thread in Pickups and say what youre after with a bit more specificity (they're all cabable of extreme metal and all very different) then we can help you choose something.
Specificity? My English teacher would turn in her grave! Mind you the way you all spell DEFINITELY wrong would get her going as well.
:lol: :lol:
Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.
Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!
/me gets coat
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Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.
Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!
/me gets coat
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I do not for one moment doubt the veracity of your very interesting proposition but you must agree that context and syntax in the use of words is paramount if the language is to be maintained in a form that is both descriptive and accurate. I would support the development of the language for scholastic reasons but can't support it's denigration when that "development" is born of ignorance.
Sorry I just couldn't resist the urge; let's get back to pickups.
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Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.
Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!
/me gets coat
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I do not for one moment doubt the veracity of your very interesting proposition but you must agree that context and syntax in the use of words is paramount if the language is to be maintained in a form that is both descriptive and accurate. I would support the development of the language for scholastic reasons but can't support it's denigration when that "development" is born of ignorance.
Sorry I just couldn't resist the urge; let's get back to pickups.
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Not guitars? Turncoat! ;)
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Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.
Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!
/me gets coat
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I do not for one moment doubt the veracity of your very interesting proposition but you must agree that context and syntax in the use of words is paramount if the language is to be maintained in a form that is both descriptive and accurate. I would support the development of the language for scholastic reasons but can't support it's denigration when that "development" is born of ignorance.
Sorry I just couldn't resist the urge; let's get back to pickups.
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Not guitars? Turncoat! ;)
No, he's been there and done that :D
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While on the subject of language, mum just told me about an exchange with a colleague where a certain word was used, a word thats perfectly innocuous and 'clean', but I'm not going to say it here (for reasons that will become apparent) - this person insisted that the word was not a real word. Mum said that it was. She set about proving this by searching google for it.
The only link google provides that contains this word is a post on this forum, written by me.
We surmise that grandad invented the word and it was passed down our line of descent. It does have a clear definition (which can be easily determined by its context) and has been questioned or misunderstood only once (just then when mum used it and her colleague said it wasnt a real word). We both quite honestly believed that it was an accepted word with a dictionary defintion!!
So, all words and language are arbitrary fabrications, words are my slaves, not my masters, and effective communication can include stuff that my gandad probably made up off the top of his head :lol:
I aint saying the word, or typing it at least, because I also quite accidentally got my very own googlewhack, and you likely dont care anyway :lol: I may well use it when not thinking about it or when I get bored of the novelty if having a googlewhack.
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Rearranged my room/mixing position a bit, this was one of the things I checked the new config with, it sounded shite, so I remixed it.
Theres a bit of EQing now, the previous one was almost untouched. I've left it there for reference though, if anyone wants to A/B the mixes
Any comments welcome
As a general note - this is as good a demonstration as any that clips are not the sound of the pickup, they show the sort of thing the pickup can do, for what thats worth to you.
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I'll definatley give this the Pepsi challenge once I'm back in front of my Mac and monitors.
I don't touch EQ boosts on my mixes either. Everytime i do something it sounds shite so I just leave it alone. Although I know I should try and learn more about this. Cuts sound better than boosts I've learnt.
Talking about mixes, I hear music differently now since I've had those A7s. Not just with those speakers but on any system. So perhaps I can learn a bit more about EQ in the future.
Mark, have you looked at Songcrafters.Org yet? I think you would be their King very quickly! It's a big community, very friendly and they have enthusiasm for recording and music coming out of their ears. You would soon hook up with others for some 'Collabs' if you wanted to do some. AndyR recommended it to me a while back. I only posted in there this week and I've had two old tunes to backing tracks have vocals dubbed on already. Which was nice! :D
http://songcrafters.org/community/
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I'll definatley give this the Pepsi challenge once I'm back in front of my Mac and monitors.
I don't touch EQ boosts on my mixes either. Everytime i do something it sounds shiteee so I just leave it alone. Although I know I should try and learn more about this. Cuts sound better than boosts I've learnt.
Talking about mixes, I hear music differently now since I've had those A7s. Not just with those speakers but on any system. So perhaps I can learn a bit more about EQ in the future.
Mark, have you looked at Songcrafters.Org yet? I think you would be their King very quickly! It's a big community, very friendly and they have enthusiasm for recording and music coming out of their ears. You would soon hook up with others for some 'Collabs' if you wanted to do some. AndyR recommended it to me a while back. I only posted in there this week and I've had two old tunes to backing tracks have vocals dubbed on already. Which was nice! :D
http://songcrafters.org/community/
Cool, I'll be very interested to hear what you think!
And, yes, totally agree on the decrease EQ rather than increase. Especially in the top end. If I need to increase, what I tend to do instead is, SNR and signal level allowing, increase the level of the track and drop everything else. I do increase stuff, but not more than a few db; I'm loathe to increase over 4db or so normally, but it really depends on the source sounds - this has quite a bit of increase on the top end of the whole mix now and I *think* I got lucky; its worked alright in this instance. But in general I try and track with too much or the things I suspect I'll be manipulating ITB, so I can cut them relative to everything else instead.
I know what you mean about listening differently! I think it happens to all musicians that go from making music on their chosen instrument to making mixes and manipulating sound. Doing a lot of recording makes you play differently and listen to playing differently too
I havent been to songcrafters yet, no, will have a browse later. However, on the strength of this new mix, something I did for a local band and an acoustic thing I recorded of my mum and her guitarist, plus some talking about music, the local scene, recording, business plans and the like, it looks like I'm going to be contracting out my services to a local recording studio, specialising in metal. I certainly dont claim to be great, or even good at it, but I'm better at recording metal than anyone else thats producing it round here, and there are a lot of local metal bands and many are talented folks, so hopefully I can do them justice (and make a quid or two from it!) so I'm quite pleased and excited about that (and a bit scared!).
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I've just listened to the new mix twice through, plus one on the old mix. It does sound much better to my ears. It sounds superb through my monitors. I'm not sure how describe what I can hear but it has a lot of clarity and separation for such a huge sound. Its a great piece of work Mark. It must have taken hours and hours to do.
Did you use DFH for drums?
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Thanks!
The preparation was hard - pimarily micing and dealing with the room sound and dialing in something that I guessed would work on the amp (plus the two EQs in the loop and the OD I used), but the mixing was quite easy, both times. I figure the 'fix it at the source' thing is very much the way to go!
Just the first was with a less than optimal placement of my sub in particular and an overestimation of how well the kick and bass especially would go over from the adams and my B&W reference system to more normal listening environments (I could hear them fine, but they didnt work so well on other things). My recent rearangement has worked wonders though, and I've heard this new mix on several systems now, low and high end, and I'm really pleased with the consistency; translation off the adams has become really effortless now.
It was Toontrack, but it was Superior drummer 2.0, the stock Avatar kit.
I've been over to songcrafters now - nice place. Very, how shall we say, wide spectrum of talent, but it looks like a really good crowd over there; its the board most like BK in its friendliness and easy going banter I've seen.
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Just listened to the track for the first time (now i have a good CPU), and even through Standard iMac speakers it sounds immense; Clarity, Depth and Punch in abundance!
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Cheers dude :)