Ceramic Nailbomb and "The Aftermath" Custom pickup, remixed old mix removed

[Roobubba]

Thanks, and welcome.

You'll find us a quite diverse bunch here, so welcome, and stick around. There are other tracks of good-ass metal that are as good as and better than mine on players, too, so keep looking round.

It wasnt really designed to do origin, it was designed to do ultra-tight, fast metal rhythm playing. I gave it the name 'Aftermath' because that song fits the precision ferocity the pickup delivers, rather than sounds like it (if you want to sound like origin, its got "81" all over it)

I have tried the normal nailbomb and found that it lacked the tightness I want in low tunings. I've also used warpigs, ceramic and alnico, painkillers, miracle men and cold sweat from the contemporaries in the bridge. I used EMGs for years and currently have a guitar with Blackouts in (bought it with them, dissapointing, not a patch on my BKs).

Maybe if you start a thread in Pickups and say what youre after with a bit more specificity (they're all cabable of extreme metal and all very different) then we can help you choose something.

Specificity? My English teacher would turn in her grave! Mind you the way you all spell DEFINITELY wrong would get her going as well.


 :lol: :lol:

Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.

Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!

* Roobubba gets coat

[Bob Johnson]

Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.

Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!

* Roobubba gets coat

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I do not for one moment doubt the veracity of your very interesting proposition but you must agree that context and syntax in the use of words is paramount if the language is to be maintained in a form that is both descriptive and accurate. I would support the development of the language for scholastic reasons but can't support it's denigration when that "development" is born of ignorance.

Sorry I just couldn't resist the urge; let's get back to pickups.

 :lol:

[MDV]

Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.

Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!

* Roobubba gets coat

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I do not for one moment doubt the veracity of your very interesting proposition but you must agree that context and syntax in the use of words is paramount if the language is to be maintained in a form that is both descriptive and accurate. I would support the development of the language for scholastic reasons but can't support it's denigration when that "development" is born of ignorance.

Sorry I just couldn't resist the urge; let's get back to pickups.

 :lol:

Not guitars? Turncoat! ;)

[Roobubba]

Actually, Bob, specificity is a term used to describe - amongst other things - the relative potency of a compound against various different binding sites. For example the ability of Imatinib to bind to a specific conformation of the Abl kinase over other conformations, or to inhibit the function of Abl kinase when compared with, for example, a polo-like kinase such as PLK-1.

Okay, so the quoted text might not be the best use of the word, but it is still a word!

* Roobubba gets coat

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I do not for one moment doubt the veracity of your very interesting proposition but you must agree that context and syntax in the use of words is paramount if the language is to be maintained in a form that is both descriptive and accurate. I would support the development of the language for scholastic reasons but can't support it's denigration when that "development" is born of ignorance.

Sorry I just couldn't resist the urge; let's get back to pickups.

 :lol:

Not guitars? Turncoat! ;)

No, he's been there and done that :D

[MDV]

While on the subject of language, mum just told me about an exchange with a colleague where a certain word was used, a word thats perfectly innocuous and 'clean', but I'm not going to say it here (for reasons that will become apparent) - this person insisted that the word was not a real word. Mum said that it was. She set about proving this by searching google for it.

The only link google provides that contains this word is a post on this forum, written by me.

We surmise that grandad invented the word and it was passed down our line of descent. It does have a clear definition (which can be easily determined by its context) and has been questioned or misunderstood only once (just then when mum used it and her colleague said it wasnt a real word). We both quite honestly believed that it was an accepted word with a dictionary defintion!!

So, all words and language are arbitrary fabrications, words are my slaves, not my masters, and effective communication can include stuff that my gandad probably made up off the top of his head :lol:

I aint saying the word, or typing it at least, because I also quite accidentally got my very own googlewhack, and you likely dont care anyway :lol: I may well use it when not thinking about it or when I get bored of the novelty if having a googlewhack.

[MDV]

Rearranged my room/mixing position a bit, this was one of the things I checked the new config with, it sounded shite, so I remixed it.

Theres a bit of EQing now, the previous one was almost untouched. I've left it there for reference though, if anyone wants to A/B the mixes

Any comments welcome

As a general note - this is as good a demonstration as any that clips are not the sound of the pickup, they show the sort of thing the pickup can do, for what thats worth to you.

[Johnny Mac]

I'll definatley give this the Pepsi challenge once I'm back in front of my Mac and monitors.

I don't touch EQ boosts on my mixes either. Everytime i do something it sounds shite so I just leave it alone. Although I know I should try and learn more about this. Cuts sound better than boosts I've learnt.
Talking about mixes, I hear music differently now since I've had those A7s. Not just with those speakers but on any system. So perhaps I can learn a bit more about EQ in the future.
Mark, have you looked at Songcrafters.Org yet? I think you would be their King very quickly! It's a big community, very friendly and they have enthusiasm for recording and music coming out of their ears. You would soon hook up with others for some 'Collabs' if you wanted to do some. AndyR recommended it to me a while back. I only posted in there this week  and I've had two old tunes to backing tracks have vocals dubbed on already. Which was nice!  :D

http://songcrafters.org/community/

[MDV]

I'll definatley give this the Pepsi challenge once I'm back in front of my Mac and monitors.

I don't touch EQ boosts on my mixes either. Everytime i do something it sounds shiteee so I just leave it alone. Although I know I should try and learn more about this. Cuts sound better than boosts I've learnt.
Talking about mixes, I hear music differently now since I've had those A7s. Not just with those speakers but on any system. So perhaps I can learn a bit more about EQ in the future.
Mark, have you looked at Songcrafters.Org yet? I think you would be their King very quickly! It's a big community, very friendly and they have enthusiasm for recording and music coming out of their ears. You would soon hook up with others for some 'Collabs' if you wanted to do some. AndyR recommended it to me a while back. I only posted in there this week  and I've had two old tunes to backing tracks have vocals dubbed on already. Which was nice!  :D

http://songcrafters.org/community/

Cool, I'll be very interested to hear what you think!

And, yes, totally agree on the decrease EQ rather than increase. Especially in the top end. If I need to increase, what I tend to do instead is, SNR and signal level allowing, increase the level of the track and drop everything else. I do increase stuff, but not more than a few db; I'm loathe to increase over 4db or so normally, but it really depends on the source sounds - this has quite a bit of increase on the top end of the whole mix now and I *think* I got lucky; its worked alright in this instance. But in general I try and track with too much or the things I suspect I'll be manipulating ITB, so I can cut them relative to everything else instead.

I know what you mean about listening differently! I think it happens to all musicians that go from making music on their chosen instrument to making mixes and manipulating sound. Doing a lot of recording makes you play differently and listen to playing differently too

I havent been to songcrafters yet, no, will have a browse later. However, on the strength of this new mix, something I did for a local band and an acoustic thing I recorded of my mum and her guitarist, plus some talking about music, the local scene, recording, business plans and the like, it looks like I'm going  to be contracting out my services to a local recording studio, specialising in metal. I certainly dont claim to be great, or even good at it, but I'm better at recording metal than anyone else thats producing it round here, and there are a lot of local metal bands and many are talented folks, so hopefully I can do them justice (and make a quid or two from it!) so I'm quite pleased and excited about that (and a bit scared!).

[Johnny Mac]

I've just listened to the new mix twice through, plus one on the old mix. It does sound much better to my ears. It sounds superb through my monitors. I'm not sure how describe what I can hear but it has a lot of clarity and separation for such a huge sound. Its a great piece of work Mark. It must have taken hours and hours to do.
Did you use DFH for drums?

[MDV]

Thanks!

The preparation was hard - pimarily micing and dealing with the room sound and dialing in something that I guessed would work on the amp (plus the two EQs in the loop and the OD I used), but the mixing was quite easy, both times. I figure the 'fix it at the source' thing is very much the way to go!

Just the first was with a less than optimal placement of my sub in particular and an overestimation of how well the kick and bass especially would go over from the adams and my B&W reference system to more normal listening environments (I could hear them fine, but they didnt work so well on other things). My recent rearangement has worked wonders though, and I've heard this new mix on several systems now, low and high end, and I'm really pleased with the consistency; translation off the adams has become really effortless now. 

It was Toontrack, but it was Superior drummer 2.0, the stock Avatar kit.

I've been over to songcrafters now - nice place. Very, how shall we say, wide spectrum of talent, but it looks like a really good crowd over there; its the board most like BK in its friendliness and easy going banter I've seen.

[James C]

Just listened to the track for the first time (now i have a good CPU), and even through Standard iMac speakers it sounds immense; Clarity, Depth and Punch in abundance!

[MDV]

Cheers dude :)