Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Lew on January 14, 2010, 08:32:41 PM
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Yo!
It isn't in my hands yet but it soon will be and I can't wait!! 86/87 minty and stock Baretta that looks like it's been kept under the bed for its life :D
Thanks Dave!
http://img696.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=001800x600.jpg
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Excellent score!
I see a Holy Diver in your future. :lol:
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:D cool
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this
is
seriously
sexy!
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Is that an ex-Twinfan Baretta? :D
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Yep! I mentioned I'd bite his hand off for it a while ago and he remembered 8)
The pickup is a Duncan JB - labeled JBJ - wound by some girl who now works in the custom shop - I can't remember the story behind it but there is one.
Depends how it sounds but I think it would be a shame to start changing things on it as it's managed to stay in once piece for 25 odd years, as tempting as a bkp and drop tuna are!
Gotta replace the 9's with 11's and drop it a half a step though! 8)
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Yep, 'tis mine. It's not getting played, so Lew's having it. Down to 12 guitars now Philly, and if I sell one other that's out on a trial period (my Warmoth Thinline) I'll be down to single figues of electrics :o
Lew - do not, I repeat DO NOT, replace the pickup in this guitar. It's an all original '87ish Baretta. It deserves to be left alone and played for what it is! The pickup is an original JB (wound by the now Seymour Duncan Custom Shop manager) and superb :D
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Down to 12 guitars now Philly, and if I sell one other that's out on a trial period (my Warmoth Thinline) I'll be down to single figues of electrics :o
SINGLE FIGURES????!!!!!
Ah, stop showing off. :wink:
So the Warmoth's out with a potential buyer?
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Yep - "Malcom" from YC/DC likes a bit of jazz on the site, and slim Fender necks, so it'd be perfect for that and him.....
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sweet :)
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The big question then, how much does a near mint, totally stock 86/87 baretta change hands for? :lol:
Beautiful guitars the old kramers, just a shame they're old enough to be so rare. IMO half the point of them was that they were simple enough to be easily modified and white enough to be plastered with stickers and transfers and what-not. Shame to think of them as collectibles...
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The big question then, how much does a near mint, totally stock 86/87 baretta change hands for? :lol:
(http://www.wrongfulconvictionlawsuitdefense.com/uploads/image/dr_evil_one_million_dollars.jpg)
Beautiful guitars the old kramers, just a shame they're old enough to be so rare. IMO half the point of them was that they were simple enough to be easily modified and white enough to be plastered with stickers and transfers and what-not. Shame to think of them as collectibles...
Idd - I have a mate who has a same era Nightswan, that was toured for years in a household name band and it's holding up well, it's a killer guitar too.
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I have no love of 1980's music, but I'd kill to get my paws on a Nightswan.
For years they were going for a pittance in pawnshops and I passed them up, thinking that I can always pick up one up cheap later.
Well, they are not cheap anymore.
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Not as much as you might think. The '84s with hockey stick headstocks go for big money due to the EVH connection.
I won't say what Lew's paying - it's up to him if he wants to disclose it.
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NIce! It looks excellent and I too would leave it alone, that JB should sound pretty darn sweet in there. 8)
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It does!
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NIce! It looks excellent and I too would leave it alone, that JB should sound pretty darn sweet in there. 8)
Chances are that is a "proper" USA made JB as well - with the older specs
I am still convinced that the JB changed at some point
It should sound great - proof is in the playing
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Listen up guys:
IT'S A PROPER OLD JB FROM THE MID-80s WOUND BY MARCIELA JUAREZ
Sheesh - are you guys deaf or something??????
;)
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Listen up guys:
IT'S A PROPER OLD JB FROM THE MID-80s WOUND BY MARCIELA JUAREZ
Sheesh - are you guys deaf or something??????
;)
I know Dave, I was trying to confirm what you were saying! :lol:
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Now you're down to a paltry 12 Dave you'll need to tell us what's left of your arsenal!
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I have no love of 1980's music, but I'd kill to get my paws on a Nightswan.
For years they were going for a pittance in pawnshops and I passed them up, thinking that I can always pick up one up cheap later.
Well, they are not cheap anymore.
Yep, still plenty of bargains around though - especially if you don't mind a beaten one night on google and im a friggin' Kramer expert :P
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Now you're down to a paltry 12 Dave you'll need to tell us what's left of your arsenal!
I'll start a new thread ;)
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Listen up guys:
IT'S A PROPER OLD JB FROM THE MID-80s WOUND BY MARCIELA JUAREZ
Sheesh - are you guys deaf or something??????
;)
How "mid" is mid-'80s? I've got one which might've been wound by this lady too, I guess. I bought it in '86 or '87.
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Listen up guys:
IT'S A PROPER OLD JB FROM THE MID-80s WOUND BY MARCIELA JUAREZ
Sheesh - are you guys deaf or something??????
;)
Speak up - we're not as young as we used to be
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Listen up guys:
IT'S A PROPER OLD JB FROM THE MID-80s WOUND BY MARCIELA JUAREZ
Sheesh - are you guys deaf or something??????
;)
How "mid" is mid-'80s? I've got one which might've been wound by this lady too, I guess. I bought it in '86 or '87.
this one is an 86/87 using vintagekramer.com to date it
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Wow, then I guess I can use that JB without everyone screaming how shite and uncool they are. :wink:
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I'm not familiar with the tone of the JB!
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Yo, thumbs up to Dave - he packs like a pro.
I've straightened the neck up a bit and restrung it. T'is a killer guitar, not too sure why he sold it :o the body is real heavy so I'm guessing it's maple. The pup is really low output compared to what I'm used to and has that mid-range bite and grind, sounds great and the real surprise is how good it sounds clean.
It's a total cliche for the guitar style, (I'm not busting any bluezak licks on it... or any guitar) but, it's got the early Dokken/EVH tone in spades.
Really impressed with the build quality too, super tight neck joint, 3 piece neck, the inside has shielding paint and the trem cavity has foil shielding (possibly a mod).
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That guitar is gorgeous. I am very, very jealous.
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Listen up guys:
IT'S A PROPER OLD JB FROM THE MID-80s WOUND BY MARCIELA JUAREZ
Sheesh - are you guys deaf or something??????
;)
Speak up - we're not as young as we used to be
Hey Jonathan, the JB in this Kramer is old enough to one of the original spec hand wound ones, I wonder if its still original?
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:lol: @ gwEm
I sold the guitar because I'm not a trem guy! I don't think the body is that heavy Lew? Didn't feel too bad to me????
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Listen up guys:
IT'S A PROPER OLD JB FROM THE MID-80s WOUND BY MARCIELA JUAREZ
Sheesh - are you guys deaf or something??????
;)
Speak up - we're not as young as we used to be
Hey Jonathan, the JB in this Kramer is old enough to one of the original spec hand wound ones, I wonder if its still original?
Duncan humbuckers are never hand wound and have never been - discussed that with Seymour himself.
Says he wasn't about to handwind when Gibson etc never did.
I remember Jay Pepper from Tigertailz playing one just like this circa 1986/7
May have been the less pointy headstock version though.
I also remember other bands like SHY and Tobruk using them in that era too
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I remember Jay Pepper from Tigertailz playing one just like this circa 1986/7
May have been the less pointy headstock version though.
I also remember other bands like SHY and Tobruk using them in that era too
I remember Steve Harris from Shy using one of those strange pointy-bodied Westones, then a Fernandes sharkfin type, didn't know they'd ever moved on to Kramers.
They were a great band for a while back then. I think they're still going, too.
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The old JB's are 14.7k with offset coils. The current spec is 16.4K. The sound is really different and very like a BK Holydiver. Leave it alone as you won't really improve on it.
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Exactly my point, Phil!
It's cracking guitar that shouldn't be messed with :D
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I remember Jay Pepper from Tigertailz playing one just like this circa 1986/7
May have been the less pointy headstock version though.
I also remember other bands like SHY and Tobruk using them in that era too
I remember Steve Harris from Shy using one of those strange pointy-bodied Westones, then a Fernandes sharkfin type, didn't know they'd ever moved on to Kramers.
They were a great band for a while back then. I think they're still going, too.
Yes - first album had the Westone
Second album he had white Les Paul and Kramer
Third album added the Fernandes Steeler Randy Rhoads type
My mate Nick has the Kramer body now and I had the neck but parted company a few years back
I cringe now as it was a slab (not tiltback) headstock
Here it is in it's heyday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJYqcDCFvQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJYqcDCFvQ)
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14k sounds like a lot on paper, this thing sounds and feels like it's half that. I'll do a clip to show. Yeah I think it's a pretty heavy body Dave, I'm used to lightweight guits though.
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Yes - first album had the Westone
Second album he had white Les Paul and Kramer
Third album added the Fernandes Steeler Randy Rhoads type
My mate Nick has the Kramer body now and I had the neck but parted company a few years back
I cringe now as it was a slab (not tiltback) headstock
Here it is in it's heyday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJYqcDCFvQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJYqcDCFvQ)
I stand corrected! :D
I've got an old Chandler (USA) neck similar to that, with the slab headstock and an ebony board. One of my few dabbles in the world of the superstrat!
Blimey, Tony Mills sounds terrible on that clip! I don't remember him being that bad. :lol: