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Title: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Jonny on March 03, 2010, 01:18:14 AM
Obviously with the shitety as economy these days its making prices rise up, and guitars go up to price, etc.

Happy times for some, mostly shite for most.

Which is why I just made this post. Before I'd be buying guitar stuff and what not- heck I'd be buying anything off the block.

But now.. I'm just sad every guitar I look at I can't even buy, not even secondhand cause the secondhand prices were the prices before the price rises (practically)

I guess I'm not wanting low range stuff and it can't be helped. Just want to post something, lol..

Sad times, sad times. Off to bed.. :(
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Frank on March 03, 2010, 01:31:10 AM
I think I've cured myself of GAS by overdosing on strats. Maybe room for another tele though.

These days I'm spending more on recording gear than guitars and that's a very dangerous addiction. There's always another gizmo, another box of tricks, another 19 inch piece of rackmount digital magic to fluff the sound up that little bit more.

Be warned kids - gear is addictive, just say no.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: tomjackson on March 03, 2010, 08:21:23 AM

I think based over the last 15 years guitars are really cheap, quality on the budget guitars is far higher than it was and the choice is great.

Everybody has different stages in their lives where they can buy more or less gear, unfortunately I'm at the latter at the moment like it sounds like you are. :?

It is frustrating but that's life, if you've got a guitar and amp that play okay you can at least concentrate on you playing.   But I know what you mean from the perspective that a new piece of gear can inspire you etc

Oh and....

Be warned kids - they stop you buying anything for 5 years - just say no (Until you are at least 30 if you can)
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: sgmypod on March 03, 2010, 09:32:55 AM
although just bought a guitar..was a good s/h one....have serious gas for a Feline lion or cub, a martamp m45 or 50 and don't even get me started on Duesenbergs. But all way too far out of reach for now
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: MrBump on March 03, 2010, 11:39:59 AM
Personally (and I'm probably posting on the wrong forum for this...) I think that we spend waaay too much time focusing on new kit.

Amazing sounds can be produced using mediocre equipment, especially when you focus more on playing than acquisition...

And I agree with Tom in that the quality of gear you can buy these days is WAY higher than used to be possible for your dollar...

Mark.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Twinfan on March 03, 2010, 01:46:28 PM
Personally (and I'm probably posting on the wrong forum for this...) I think that we spend waaay too much time focusing on new kit.

This is very true.

But as my number one hobby, a lot of what makes up that hobby is trying, buying and selling kit.  I'm not solely in it to make money from music, I want to have fun and enjoy myself  :)
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: gwEm on March 03, 2010, 02:27:10 PM
my guitar GAS is mostly under control - however my bicycle GAS isn't.. :(
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Jonny on March 03, 2010, 02:30:40 PM
I guess all the N-Ds that you guys post make me sad, lol

I really want to change from my Toneport it is depressingly shite. It's like having a rusty old banger and cheering yourself up and telling yourself it's better than what it is.

And it isn't. Really.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: gwEm on March 03, 2010, 02:38:28 PM
I guess all the N-Ds that you guys post make me sad, lol

I really want to change from my Toneport it is depressingly shitee. It's like having a rusty old banger and cheering yourself up and telling yourself it's better than what it is.

And it isn't. Really.

you have some very fit guitars though Jonny - look on the bright side!
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: dave_mc on March 03, 2010, 05:45:24 PM
yeah, it's very annoying when you were just about to buy something, and suddenly it's £300 more expensive... :(
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Jonny on March 03, 2010, 06:19:09 PM
I guess all the N-Ds that you guys post make me sad, lol

I really want to change from my Toneport it is depressingly shiteee. It's like having a rusty old banger and cheering yourself up and telling yourself it's better than what it is.

And it isn't. Really.

you have some very fit guitars though Jonny - look on the bright side!
No complaints on the guitars gwEm (although the Vigier is at home in Belfast..) but I really want them to sound good and not floppy out of my Toneport and I'd have to fork over a lot for a good amp and I play a lot of metal so it kind of cuts all the little Marshalls and whatnots out of there.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: sgmypod on March 03, 2010, 08:41:20 PM
Can't you build a kit....some good cheapish ones out there(low wattage)
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Matt77 on March 03, 2010, 10:00:30 PM
I have been GAS free and not bought anything for a while.
Watch this space though as I can't hold back much longer
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Ian Price on March 03, 2010, 11:01:05 PM
I had major GAS for an SG today (and the  supersonic 112 I played it through). I cured this by looking up reviews on the 112 (not very reliable by all accounts) and playing my strat and martamp for a longish time this evening.

I still want an SG but know that trying to get one at the moment would be stupidity as it would probably involve losing the strat. I went through the usual how much can I get/what can I buy calculation in my head a few times before I realised I was being a total c-ck.

GAS over.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: JDC on March 04, 2010, 02:17:16 AM
prices may have gone up but it makes you value what you have
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: MDV on March 04, 2010, 02:19:05 PM
Personally (and I'm probably posting on the wrong forum for this...) I think that we spend waaay too much time focusing on new kit.

I agree completely.

A: PLAY your bloody guitar/s. Its all about the music, is it not?

B: See sig. With some knowledge there are lots of things that one can coax into sounding good, if not great.

That said, my gas has only abated and changed direction a bit. Now I want recording gear more than guitar gear, with one recurring thought about a custom amp from Mr MJW, which would largely be for recording and can-gig-as-well. I dont have the rabid need for it I usually do though. I try to remember my sig and that many people do better than I do with less, as well. That keeps it in check most of the time.

Having good stuff that youre satisfied with certainly helps as well - my legras have pretty much cured me of guitar gas, for example :D
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Ratrod on March 04, 2010, 05:33:08 PM
Prices have gone up, my cash flow has gone down. Plus I have a car that needs spending on and that's what I'm focussing on.

I'm fortunate enough to have some kick ass gear so everything else I would get is just extra.

I still have GAS but I have it under control and I try not to expose myself to temptation.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: d1dsj on March 04, 2010, 07:12:37 PM
I've solved alot of my problems by SELLING guitars. Yes there are a couple I'd like, but nothing I'm desperate for. I really thought I was going to be mega depressed for ages but that wasn't the case. The problem for me (aside from all the cash tied up in them) is that with lots of guitars come lots of string purchases and changes if you gig them, lots of pick up and hardware changes, storage problems and for me the worst one was..... deciding what to take to gigs. I tried to rotate them but found that didn't work as ceratin guitars work better than other with the set and the bloody headaches I had trying to decide what to take was seriously unbearable. These days it's a lot easier, and to be honest I'm ALOT happier with less than half the guitars I used to have.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Matt77 on March 04, 2010, 07:44:06 PM

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That said, my gas has only abated and changed direction a bit. Now I want recording gear more than guitar gear, with one recurring thought about a custom amp from Mr MJW, which would largely be for recording and can-gig-as-well. I dont have the rabid need for it I usually do though. I try to remember my sig and that many people do better than I do with less, as well. That keeps it in check most of the time.

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If it's an 18w MJW with power scaling and effects loop you want, let me know as I need to fund my next and slightly louder MJW. I may keep the current one as I like it.... but I'm pondering
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Twinfan on March 04, 2010, 08:57:40 PM
He wants a high gain amp Matt - so yours won't be much use  :(

A: PLAY your bloody guitar/s. Its all about the music, is it not?

Not to everyone it isn't!

As I said earlier, to me (and I would wager plenty of other folks, especially those who don't gig), it's about:

having fun
trying different gear out
hunting down bargains
learning how to modify guitars
the thrill of buying and trading
etc
etc

Plenty of us have guitars for the fun of guitars, regardless of the actual music.....
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 04, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
He wants a high gain amp Matt - so yours won't be much use  :(

A: PLAY your bloody guitar/s. Its all about the music, is it not?

Not to everyone it isn't!

As I said earlier, to me (and I would wager plenty of other folks, especially those who don't gig), it's about:

having fun
trying different gear out
hunting down bargains
learning how to modify guitars
the thrill of buying and trading
etc
etc

Plenty of us have guitars for the fun of guitars, regardless of the actual music.....


Looks like it's just you and me then Mark ....  :lol:
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: MDV on March 04, 2010, 09:35:34 PM
He wants a high gain amp Matt - so yours won't be much use  :(

A: PLAY your bloody guitar/s. Its all about the music, is it not?

Not to everyone it isn't!

As I said earlier, to me (and I would wager plenty of other folks, especially those who don't gig), it's about:

having fun
trying different gear out
hunting down bargains
learning how to modify guitars
the thrill of buying and trading
etc
etc

Plenty of us have guitars for the fun of guitars, regardless of the actual music.....


Looks like it's just you and me then Mark ....  :lol:

Ask a rhetorical question, get a bloody answer! :lol:

Each to their own. I buy gear to use for my musical purposes.

I am in fact interested in the 18W MJW. I'm interested in getting hold of one and sticking pedals infront of it (in all likelyhood; I know its a low gain amp) and recording it and seeing what it can do with some manipulation and when placed in a mix. Its worth a try, subject to price. Gives me a usefull starting point if I do go through with a custom metal amp with martin as well.
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: nfe on March 04, 2010, 09:46:53 PM
Personally (and I'm probably posting on the wrong forum for this...) I think that we spend waaay too much time focusing on new kit.

I agree completely.

A: PLAY your bloody guitar/s. Its all about the music, is it not?

B: See sig. With some knowledge there are lots of things that one can coax into sounding good, if not great.

Lots of truths.

I always think it's just worth keeping in mind that almost any musician I look up to or who inspires me, pretty much gets through their entire career with one or two guitars and whatever amp the promoter at that night's gig has been able to hire for them.


Of course, at the same time, cool stuff is cool, y'know?  :lol:
Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 04, 2010, 09:58:32 PM
Personally (and I'm probably posting on the wrong forum for this...) I think that we spend waaay too much time focusing on new kit.

I agree completely.

A: PLAY your bloody guitar/s. Its all about the music, is it not?

B: See sig. With some knowledge there are lots of things that one can coax into sounding good, if not great.

Lots of truths.

I always think it's just worth keeping in mind that almost any musician I look up to or who inspires me, pretty much gets through their entire career with one or two guitars and whatever amp the promoter at that night's gig has been able to hire for them.


Of course, at the same time, cool stuff is cool, y'know?  :lol:

I remember being blown away and enlightened, when I saw the set up / rehearsal section of the DVD " An Evening With Joe Pass " - when he chose to go D.I. to he house P.A. as his 'rig' .

Having said that, I am yet another person who would really love to get Martin at MJW to build me a Jazz Combo .  Small,  sweet, clean - and most of all 'M.J.W' quality.    As long as he doesn't expect me to demo mine with anywhere near the same panache as Adrian Ingram tested his !  8)  

Title: Re: Got GAS? Depressing Near-Impossible?
Post by: juansolo on March 10, 2010, 02:12:44 PM
He wants a high gain amp Matt - so yours won't be much use  :(

A: PLAY your bloody guitar/s. Its all about the music, is it not?

Plenty of us have guitars for the fun of guitars, regardless of the actual music.....


I go one step further by probably liking the making stuff that sounds cool and making stuff sound cooler more than playing. Especially as I have bugger all competency when it comes to playing. Still enjoy it though and to be fair, I don't spooge a great deal on it, most of my stuff is cheap as chips.