Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: PeterMoore on May 30, 2010, 03:06:32 AM
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For information, Gibson have just install electrically out-of-phase... Not magnetic out-of-phase like original "Greeny" guitar...
Tim should contact Gibson to offer them his services...
However, do you confirm the PG Blues set is it magnetic out-of-phase like originals pickups ? Are there 4 conductors or braided 2 ?
Thanks.
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I'm not sure about the phase but all BKP humbuckers are available with your choice of conductors.
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In the Shop, there actually isn't a 2- or 4-conductor option for the PG Blues, they come stock with 2-conductor (so permanently out of phase). But I'm sure you could custom order them with 4-conductor.
Here's a couple of quotes from Tim about the pickups (there's probably more info on the forum, but this came up with a quick search:
The set has been made based on research from the time the guitar was in Peter and Gary's possesion and with the help of Sam Lee who did the original repair on the neck pickup and Charlie Chandler who has subsequently looked after the guitar for Gary.
The PG Blues set is completely unpotted, features vintage length rough cast Alnico II magnets and the neck pickup is wired so that it is permenantly out of phase with the bridge when in the middle position(not magnetically out of phase as often incorrectly quoted).
They're based on info I received from Charlie Chandler who worked on Gary Moores PG LP and actually had the covers off the humbuckers.I also got info from the guy who rewound the damaged neck pickup, Sam Lee,so the neck is wound in reverse like the original and with heavy formvar wire(not magnetically out of phase as often suggested).
Magnets-vintage cut 63.5mm rough cast Alnico II.
Gary Moore has been using the PG Blues in one of his LPs on his most recent tour.
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Hi, welcome to the forum :)
I have PG Blues in my LP Std and IMO they sound very accurate.
Another quote from Tim,
http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/reviews.html
“The neck pickup was rewound in the opposite direction but with the magnetic polarity unchanged,” Mills affirms. “I’ve reproduced this, complete with heavy Formvar wire, and this accurately produces the Greeny tone when both humbuckers are selected.”
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Thanks for answers.
The most adapted finish is "raw nickel" ? What do you think about ?
A picture of my guitar :
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9307/1011235i.jpg)
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Nice guitar! I like the "imperfect" grain lines in the maple top.
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Nice guitar! I like the "imperfect" grain lines in the maple top.
Thanks !
This "Collector Choice Les Paul" guitar is very good but Burstbuckers PU are not the same quality level...
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Looks great with the exception of the 2 types of knobs? Is there a reason for that or just personal choice? So is that a Custom shop model?
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Looks great with the exception of the 2 types of knobs? Is there a reason for that or just personal choice?
That's just echoing the original Peter Green/Gary Moore Les Paul. I don't know if it already had the mismatched knobs when Green owned it.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Gary-Moore-Greeny-Poster1.jpg)
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Cheers Phily .... they say you learn something new everyday! :lol:
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Looks great with the exception of the 2 types of knobs? Is there a reason for that or just personal choice?
That's just echoing the original Peter Green/Gary Moore Les Paul. I don't know if it already had the mismatched knobs when Green owned it.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Gary-Moore-Greeny-Poster1.jpg)
It's a good thing we don't buy repilcas that are 'Hairstyle correct' . :o
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Wish I had enough hair to try it! :lol:
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For information : http://www.themusiczoo.com/blog/2010/gibson-collectors-choice-burst-1-melvyn-franks/
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I wondered who Melvyn Franks was!
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This is the perfect guitar to install a BK PG Blues set, isn't it ? ;)
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Awesome!
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(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4903/greenyspecs.png)
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6.5 pounds weight - non-chambered - how do they do that? Or is it just the body weight!!
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It is just the body weight.
8 lbs 14 oz for my guitar. ;)
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Looks great with the exception of the 2 types of knobs? Is there a reason for that or just personal choice?
That's just echoing the original Peter Green/Gary Moore Les Paul. I don't know if it already had the mismatched knobs when Green owned it.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Gary-Moore-Greeny-Poster1.jpg)
Thats quite bizarre! I've never actually seen Gary Moore when he was young!
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Here's an even older one, 1978:
(http://www.chrisspedding.com/bio/image/grd1.jpg)
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I must admit I have been toying with the idea of getting a set of PG Blues for a while now. But I could only put them in my 339, and I like the inbetween sound in that too much, so I think I would miss it.
So probably a new SG or LP would be my best bet (funny how GAS works isn't it?), but I have been thinking about going all Tokai for this one... :roll:
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Looks great with the exception of the 2 types of knobs? Is there a reason for that or just personal choice?
That's just echoing the original Peter Green/Gary Moore Les Paul. I don't know if it already had the mismatched knobs when Green owned it.
Gary Moore fitted the mis-matched knobs ;)
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. . . but the Sperzel metal butter bean tuners (as opposed to the Kluson tulips) were on it in Greeny's day. Was this original or a later addition?
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. . . but the Sperzel metal butter bean tuners (as opposed to the Kluson tulips) were on it in Greeny's day. Was this original or a later addition?
They're Grovers in the picture, Sperzel didn't start making machine heads until the 90's. I think they were switched out to Schallers at one point.
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Sperzel didn't start making machine heads until the 90's.
I'm being pedantic again, but I think they started in the late '70s and introduced the locking ones in the '80s.
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Sperzel didn't start making machine heads until the 90's.
I'm being pedantic again, but I think they started in the late '70s and introduced the locking ones in the '80s.
I stand corrected, I was going by when I started to see them in the aftermarket area. However, they are still Grovers on the pic of Gary Moore :)
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Agreed! :D
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Oh yes, you are right, got my brands wrong - but they also can be seen on pictures of Greenbaum himself holding the guitar.
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:drink:
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i notice the neck pickup's the "right" way round in that Gary Moore picture
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i notice the neck pickup's the "right" way round in that Gary Moore picture
Yes but he was young :D
I bought BKP PG Blues yesterday :
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3447/imagesyq.jpg)
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(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9928/1011284q.jpg)
I will install it in friday I think...
For information, Gibson simply made an electronic out of phase... Wrong !! :shock:
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1014/1011274.jpg)
Bare Knuckle is more serious than Gibson with a true replica of the original pickup with (by exemple) braided two conductor : very good !! PDT_003
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4110/1011287.jpg)
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wow this quitar so cool !!!!
:o :o what is this brand?
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Hi !
It is "Gibson Les Paul Collector Choice Melvyn Franks VOS"
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(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1582/imagedyj.jpg)
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/651/imageuv.jpg)
BKP are installed! The sound is FANTASTIC, EXTRAORDINARY, FABULOUS! Much better than the Burstbuckers...
Tim is a magician!
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BKP are installed! The sound is FANTASTIC, EXTRAORDINARY, FABULOUS! Much better than the Burstbuckers...
Tim is a magician!
You like 'em then? :wink:
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BKP are installed! The sound is FANTASTIC, EXTRAORDINARY, FABULOUS! Much better than the Burstbuckers...
Tim is a magician!
You like 'em then? :wink:
I LOVE then !