Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Transcend on November 23, 2010, 08:46:40 PM
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I posted this a while back but the forum restore made it get deleted.
So here goes.
I really miss how active the players forum was when i came on here and also find it a real shame that the BKP album thing has gone down the pan.
So.
What i suggest is some BKP collaberations to get things kickstarted again maybe even some cover song competitions or something.
If anyones up for either of these ideas respond and ill start planning it out with the help of whoever wants to be involved obviously :D
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Also i think if there is any kind of competition there would have to be some kind of give in some aspects to make it fair for everyone taking part as not everyone is experienced in mixing tracks so we would have to find someone willing to mix them all to keep it fair.
Also backing tracks etc will have to be provided/made by the same person so as to keep everyone on a level playing field.
I dont mind doing any of the above really as its a community project if people are interested.
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I'm iiiinnnnn !
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I can mix em, provided I recieve them in a reasonable state (folders with consolidated tracks so I can load them into reaper, regardless of what you used, no unused wavs from scr@p takes to confuse anything or it'll take forever). Very preferably with DIs as well, so I can reamp (if thats OK with the sender; will sort on case by case basis).
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I can mix em, provided I recieve them in a reasonable state (folders with consolidated tracks so I can load them into reaper, regardless of what you used, no unused wavs from scr@p takes to confuse anything or it'll take forever). Very preferably with DIs as well, so I can reamp (if thats OK with the sender; will sort on case by case basis).
Excellent stuff mark i was going to suggest having complete tracks and getting rid of all the extra gumph and also to have DIs where possible.
Glad to see some people are interested
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I'll play :)
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If we're doing it on a pickup by pickup basis then we're going to have to choose the pickups and someone to play for that pickup.
I'll nominate myself out of the playing if I'm mixing too.
I suggest people pick a pickup and a style, and we go from there. First come first served is as fair as it gets.
So, people, pick a pickup!
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Well it depends on what we are actually going to do to be honest.
as if its a song collaberation original/cover then it could quite easily be a mix
if we're doing say a mini contest again it could be a mix.
But if we are doing a pickup contest say we all agree on a track and see which pickup/player can get the closest or get the best vibe then of course it would have to be that way.
What i was thinking was to leave this thread running for a couple of days to get all the people who would be interested into it then as a group decide what it is that we are going to do overall as i was just throwing ideas out there.
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but also im up for anything thrashy or more classic metal
such as
Metallica,megadeth.testament,king diamond
and all i have are the Miracle Man, Mississippi Queen and the Aftermath
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I'm also up for this, just needs somebody good at organising to sort it all out I think as that seems to be a problem!
I was going to suggest that a group of us listen/mix so the tracks are heard on a wide range of sources, but that will probably just make it even more of a PITA to organise!
I have a bridge Pig 90 which doesn't seem to be a common pickup here so could cook up something suitably stoner rock for that :P
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Well it depends on what we are actually going to do to be honest.
as if its a song collaberation original/cover then it could quite easily be a mix
if we're doing say a mini contest again it could be a mix.
But if we are doing a pickup contest say we all agree on a track and see which pickup/player can get the closest or get the best vibe then of course it would have to be that way.
What i was thinking was to leave this thread running for a couple of days to get all the people who would be interested into it then as a group decide what it is that we are going to do overall as i was just throwing ideas out there.
A blind tournament could work. It would be drawn out and need plenty of participants, but its not beyond the realm of possibility. Would have to be anonamous, obviously, and we'd need at least 3 or 4 entries per pickup.
The prinicpal difficulty would be whether people are biased, whether they want to be or not, by the tones and production of each clip. They'll be as varied as the clips in players, no doubt, and good playing might be obscured by poor sonics.
But its worth a shot. I dont really see a better way to get the best player, with the best ideas for each pickup. Otherwise its just an 'I bagsy the Miracle Man!', etc etc etc.
Definitely a fan of the tournament though.
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What would be really good would be to have a few meet-ups and record in a decent studio, after first getting some ideas down over t'internet so we all know what we're playing to minimise studio time wasted.. It would probably be way too much outlay unless someone has a proper home studio and understanding neighbours, though.
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Aye a group of us do definitely need to decide on some kind of rules and obviously restrictions to keep everything really fair.
The tournament type thing would be a agood way to get things kicked off an build up support/interest for the colleberations.
Maybe if enough people are interested or even not enough it could be split down into groups for it.
Another idea i had but would take considerably more work from everyone involved would be to take a song that everyone decides on then everyone puts there own spin on that particular song this way it would end with people voting for the preferred final song rather than sonic quality of the recording.
But it could also lead to this thing being some kind of guitar x factor :S
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But it could also lead to this thing being some kind of guitar x factor :S
I think that would make me Wagner. :|
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I've only got the Axraxas neck pickup left, so count me in for a piece of that action.
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As I said, I'm in. For the collective of that we all pitch in musically or some talent (yes, you too Philly)
Judging would, as people have said, make it a little difficult but doable. But I'm all just for playing something.
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I would just like to point out that any 'out' notes in my playing are merely an expression of my a-tonal playing style.
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But it could also lead to this thing being some kind of guitar x factor :S
I think that would make me Wagner. :|
I absolutely love Wagner. Cant sing to save his live but he is one hell of an entertainer and hes funny to top it off.
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I would just like to point out that any 'out' notes in my playing are merely an expression of my a-tonal playing style.
You're just doing as Friedman does. And going out of the box in a good way. At least that is what i tell myself when i do it
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i'm in, got IT set, BG set VHii bridge, Stormy m neck.....and can do really cheesy stuff if needed BUT.....
my cr@p recordings would be a dead giveaway and my complete inability to deal with more 'complex' recording may
be an eliminator eg i don't even understand what mdv suggesting.still i'm willing and could do something over a
pre- done back track.
good idea whatever the outcome.
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i'm in, got IT set, BG set VHii bridge, Stormy m neck.....and can do really cheesy stuff if needed BUT.....
my cr@p recordings would be a dead giveaway and my complete inability to deal with more 'complex' recording may
be an eliminator eg i don't even understand what mdv suggesting.still i'm willing and could do something over a
pre- done back track.
good idea whatever the outcome.
Good that youre up for a ready made backing track. I hope more people are willing to do that, as it would make things MUCH easier. It would be cool if some very flexible, mid-tempo blues/rock based beat were made for all the songs that can handle styles from Free-ish to Metallica-ish. No Harke or Kollias beats required, just something thats versatile and unrestrictive.
Consolidate: all the tracks in the project are extended so that they are the full length of the project. No floating overdubs and certainly not a series of 30 10 second punch ins with no way for me to know where they go, time wise. That way, I can load up all the wavs starting at time = 0 and everythings in the right place.
DI: a signal directly from the guitar to a high impedence input to the DAW.
Reamp: I play that back out using one of my reamp boxes into one of my amps. I have plenty of tonal versatility here, good amps, good cab, good mics and decent acoustics so the chances are good that I can improve on something done on a pod, for example, and level the playing field for people that dont have access to the means to record good tones. It is IMPERATIVE however that the DI is tracked right (primarily input level and the impedence of the input device; most interfaces have a passable DI on them though, but its very tempting to track a DI too hot) and is of good playing (as in clean, clear and in time, whether it be smoke on the water or for the love of god). Well, I say imperative, I can polish some aspects of turdiness (not all), but would really rather not: its tedious.
As far as the initial trials go; I'm willing to do some extremely rudimentary pseudo-mastering to level the playing field a bit for the entries, but I'm not mixing each one. Happy to mix the final ones, however.
I will reamp trial entries in extreme cases (where the playing or material merits it and is worth doing it for, but the sound really isnt competing, or sticks out a lot, in a bad way) but not for all of them, since in theory there will be dozens.
For the final tracks, I think a DI for the option of reamps should be a requisite.
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I've only got a CWP/WP set these days, but I'll quite happily play over any backing track folks think is fun.
It'll be fun to see if I can still play things that aren't utterly horrible, maybe :lol:
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Bring the horrible. More fun I say.
I swear if everyone just throws in generic blues, classic rock and thrash then I'm burying your guitars and overdubbing something interesting instead. Different and varied entries, with peoples own styles FTW.
People who think they have their own style, but in fact its the same as jimmy page or james hetfield FTL!
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I'll see what i can do in regards to a backing track but it wont be until the weekend as im backed up with work for the rest of the week.
What i was going to suggest as a starter was for someone not competing to choose any random song (not something really out there or overly complex) and everyone covers it in there own style but i actually realised today that this would require too much from people as they would have to know how to sequence drums etc.
also i think with mixing providing the original tracks are ok i think they should all be treat equally as this will again keep everything on a level playing field.
so what does everyone want backing track wise?
I think this could actually be a bit more awkward than i originally thought as if i add a bassline that restricts chord choice.
And if i don't that puts people without a bass or ability to use a vsti for one at a disadvantage.
This really needs a lot more planning than i originally thought.
I was hoping for something that people could pair up on ideally as then if someone can only do rhythm it again doesnt put them at a disadvantage as they could pair up with someone who could do leads
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I dont think we *need* bass for the trial entries. When we have something concrete for each thing, people that can add bass, add bass, people that cant, someone that can adds something rudimentary and root-following with the tab.
I guessed you hadnt appreciated the full complexity of this undertaking ;) but thats no reason not to do it. Its fun, no? Or it will be once we get started. We all play guitar, or do music-related things, so lets do them. Work is involved, so there will be work, too.
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I may have misread the above but if anyone wants a drum track then here's one I did for a HC drum jam if it's any use? - http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/254/DrumJam.mp3
Everyone always does a completely different take so it's quite versatile.
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I dont think we *need* bass for the trial entries. When we have something concrete for each thing, people that can add bass, add bass, people that cant, someone that can adds something rudimentary and root-following with the tab.
I guessed you hadnt appreciated the full complexity of this undertaking ;) but thats no reason not to do it. Its fun, no? Or it will be once we get started. We all play guitar, or do music-related things, so lets do them. Work is involved, so there will be work, too.
Oh it will definitely be fun and very good point about the initial entries not requiring them.
And Tom i shall check that out tonight when im back from work its a bit early right now.
If this gets kicked off in a good way then i think i will make use of my hosting and knock up a quick forum especially for it then this one wont be filled with stuff) and just ask Ol or Tim for a sticky link off to it so people can still find it
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I may have misread the above but if anyone wants a drum track then here's one I did for a HC drum jam if it's any use? - http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/254/DrumJam.mp3
Everyone always does a completely different take so it's quite versatile.
I'm not playing, but yeah, its not bad. I do struggle to hear anything bluesy over it, maybe because of the high velocities throughout, maybe the occasional pattern turnarounds (not that blues doesnt have turnarounds, obviously, but they seem quite groove-metal), but see what the bluesers think.
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I'll try and do something bluesy over it later to see if it works. Also if you have a better drum program than EZDrummer I could export the midi and let you "have your way with it" so to speak :lol:
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Nah, its OK, just a thought. It was more of a guess than a pronouncement that the blues dudes arent going to be that comfortable with it. See if any want to speak up.
Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.
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Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.
I'm only an interested spectator!
Threads in "At The Back" tend to go unnoticed for a while, it seems. If we keep it going folks will notice, eventually.
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Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.
I'm only an interested spectator!
Threads in "At The Back" tend to go unnoticed for a while, it seems. If we keep it going folks will notice, eventually.
Really? I don't think i have EVER heard any of your playing. It's a shame really
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Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.
I'm only an interested spectator!
Threads in "At The Back" tend to go unnoticed for a while, it seems. If we keep it going folks will notice, eventually.
Yeah. Theres no harm at all in sending in an anonamous entry. Only the person that recieves and posts it (probably toeknee) will know its you, and we wont throw anything at you.
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Really? I don't think i have EVER heard any of your playing. It's a shame really
You don't want to, Tony. Really! :| :wink:
I'm more a guitar enthusiast than a guitar player.
Even if I could play anything worth a shite, I'd have absolutely no idea how to record it.
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Tut tut philly.
You use a recordy thing. At 1/5th the cost of one of your middle-priced guitars you can get a recordy thing and a mic
And I bet you can play. Youre just being coy. I'm going to ask the people that went to the guitar meets you were at. You must have played there.
Oh, and 'Light heavyweight'. Deary me. I was on to BK one day and out of idle curiosity asked how many posts you need to get heavyweight, because it seems to go on forever. Youre usually given some title like 'forum mega-king' at about 1000. Apparently no one knows. Someone must, but there you go
Anywho, less posting, more playing! ;) :)
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Anywho, less posting, more playing! ;) :)
You're right, but...... I'm fighting the ingrained habits of a lifetime. Always something better less difficult to do.
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Yeah that drum jam is rubbish for anything bluesy. It works for rock, metal and oddly enough grungy-industrial-awesomeness like someone on HCAF did!
I know it makes it a bit harder to organise but I think it would be better to have variety in the song structure etc rather than everyone playing over the same drum track. I could do a few drum tracks as I quite like programming drum tracks when I get into it. Only thing I can't do is anything with odd time sigantures :lol:
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I say we have two drum tracks. A light one and a medium-heavy one.
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Ive just been playing around with writing drum tracks.
And i for the life of me cannot write anything that isnt metal. And i also struggle to just write drums alone i seem to need something to go along with it.
So i'm going to have to hand the reigns over for this preliminary one.
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Odd that we've got all fairly metally people here, except philly. Wheres andyR, tomjackson, matt77, Mr38th and the like? The bluesers and rockers.
I'm an interested spectator at the moment. Mainly because I can't quite figure out what we're aiming at :lol:
Is it to produce BKP clips for the players section? But then it seems like something else as well, collaborations... or recording songs... or... so I'm a bit confused.
Also, don't know about the others, but yes that drum track doesn't head down a bluesy route. Having said that, that style would fit under most of what I do unless I'm "having a blues jam".
HOWEVER! I never start with a drum arrangement - drum arrangements always come last with me, or at least after the dynamics and structure of the thing and most of the guide instruments are down. So I sat in front of that drum part with my guitar on and plucked a few things, and then thought... "nope, no idea what to do with this, sounds like the drummer was having fun, but..."
If there'd been a bass part on it to bounce of, I'd have been away. But an earlier post seemed to imply that people might find that restrictive? Not me... I can't start with drums alone unless it's just a nice click/groove with a repeating pattern, no fills or changes, the song or whatever dictates all that stuff later...
I spose, principally I'm either A) a songwriter and arranger or B) a guitarist that can sit in and jam off what other people are doing.
If I'm doing A) the song is KING for me, and it usually exists in its entirety, performable on an acoustic in my living room, before I start recording anything - and that kinda means I don't often feel that comfortable collaborating (one of the reasons I'm not in a band anymore :lol:).
If I'm doing B) it's because someone else (usually me from A) has a finished thing but they want me to write and play the guitar parts that complement what's already there. This means I'll happily jam over backing tracks (if I'm familiar enough with the musical style, or can make mine fit over it), but I want the basic structure and harmony all there...
I've tried creating backing tracks before, for myself to jam with at my leisure... but I find it an utter pain trying to record a thing that isn't going to be complete when you've finished... And then if it does go well, before you know it you end up with a finished song on top of it - so there's no way you're prepared to part with it as a backer! :lol:
So, at the moment, I'm watching with interest to see how I might fit in... :D
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I know what you mean Andy, I have a hard time starting with just a drum track - those drums were from a failed "song" which I shortened and turned into the drum jam.
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There are actually a few aims.
1.Fun and games in the form of competitions
2.Song Writing collaberations
3.To have fun and generally revive the spirit of the forum form 2006 that seems to have dwindled.
I'm actually creating a forum for this so as not to end up with a massive thread on here and im gonna contact Tim about getting a link if it all goes well.
And the final aim i have for this is to get something together across a range of styles that Tim may seem good enough to go on BKP democracy!!.
Oh yeah also ill need moderators etc even though i know you lot are well behaved.
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Hey guys i have made a preliminary forum for the jamsite idea and i may have gone overboard with the categories etc but it can all be changed at a later date.
The site is still unnamed as i couldn't think of anything
The rules are not still set in stone but i thought it would be good if we all collectively got together and discussed what we want from this and how we would like it to be achieved as after all it is a community project.
Other than that the site is up in its preliminary stage for you all to browse and start posting if you feel the need :D
www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite
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I'll be throwing up a couple of guides to kick off.
Join up and keep an eye out.
Tony, maybe start a new thread to tell people this exists?
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I'll be throwing up a couple of guides to kick off.
Join up and keep an eye out.
Tony, maybe start a new thread to tell people this exists?
Very good idea mark.
Can you also upload the backing track or midi of it that you used somewhere and ill do the same too.
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By 'guide' I meant the written kind!
Starting with one that no one should really need and I hope everyone finds terribly condescending (not because I want to insult you, I just want you to know it all already), but you may as well start at the start.
Starting with actual music would have been better, in hindsight :lol:
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Sounds like a fun project. I've got a load of stuff I can use if it's needed. It just needs a some musical ideas to get it snowballing.
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Get over to the new forum Johnny!
http://www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite/
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Get over to the new forum Johnny!
http://www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite/
Looks good Mark. Did you get this one going? Just whats needed out there really. That other one was ok but most of the members were using Boss MBR and I'd quite like to swap ideas with people who are into it on bigger machines using some of the software i invested in. I'll join up now.
My learning curve has shot up steeply lately, god i love it!!
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Get over to the new forum Johnny!
http://www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite/
Haha this is a joint collab between myself & mark but i want to get all members involved in what they want to see over there.
Also that 'other forum'
has actually got a post on the jamsite one which you should check out :P
Looks good Mark. Did you get this one going? Just whats needed out there really. That other one was ok but most of the members were using Boss MBR and I'd quite like to swap ideas with people who are into it on bigger machines using some of the software i invested in. I'll join up now.
My learning curve has shot up steeply lately, god i love it!!
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Get over to the new forum Johnny!
http://www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite/
Looks good Mark. Did you get this one going? Just whats needed out there really. That other one was ok but most of the members were using Boss MBR and I'd quite like to swap ideas with people who are into it on bigger machines using some of the software i invested in. I'll join up now.
My learning curve has shot up steeply lately, god i love it!!
No, its tonys baby, I'm just helping out a bit.
And causing shitestorms over at songcrafters by, apparently, insulting their precious MBRs, and by proxy, them. Oh the ignorance I'd like to dispel, but it doesnt matter; they're obviously happy.
And it doesnt matter x2, because we have a recording forum now with no gear biases (except maybe BKs :lol:).
I'm looking forward to it taking off (and helping it take off) actually; I think theres room for a recording forum thats welcoming enough for people that can record to a professional standard (like Andy Sneaps forum or gearslutz), isnt mired in any methodology bias (like songcrafters) and can still cater to beginner and intermediate recordists, and help them along. Also, there are plenty of people on here that record, and do it well, but recording is very un-talked about here (obviously I'll think that!) so its nice to have a place where its the focus thats not as cramped as Players.
So, join up folks; hasnt got started much yet, but it needs members for that!
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Get over to the new forum Johnny!
http://www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite/
Haha this is a joint collab between myself & mark but i want to get all members involved in what they want to see over there.
Also that 'other forum'
has actually got a post on the jamsite one which you should check out :P
Looks good Mark. Did you get this one going? Just whats needed out there really. That other one was ok but most of the members were using Boss MBR and I'd quite like to swap ideas with people who are into it on bigger machines using some of the software i invested in. I'll join up now.
My learning curve has shot up steeply lately, god i love it!!
Or its a collaberation, either or, potato...potato....
Doesnt really work in type :lol:
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Got a link Toe-Knee for your thread?
Nice work on your site
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Got a link Toe-Knee for your thread?
Nice work on your site
http://songcrafters.org/community/index.php?topic=9488.0
I posted a guide that I posted on 'Jamsite' (as its currently, temporarily called') on Songcrafters.
Chaos ensues.
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fwiw, I've been writing guides for the new forum.
The first one is pretty elementary; just different ways you can record a guitar (though it lit soundcrafters up pretty effectively, if completely accidentally :lol:) and I suspect you all know it already.
The other is on getting a guitar sound thats going to sit in a mix. The bulk of it is on micing an amp, but I have a crack at direct routes as well. That might be of use to some people. Some people might be kind enough to offer improvements and additions.
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fwiw, I've been writing guides for the new forum.
The first one is pretty elementary; just different ways you can record a guitar (though it lit soundcrafters up pretty effectively, if completely accidentally :lol:) and I suspect you all know it already.
I just checked in on that thread over at songcrafters.... its turned into mindless babble now
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fwiw, I've been writing guides for the new forum.
The first one is pretty elementary; just different ways you can record a guitar (though it lit soundcrafters up pretty effectively, if completely accidentally :lol:) and I suspect you all know it already.
I just checked in on that thread over at songcrafters.... its turned into mindless babble now
Yep. They're amusing themselves at least.
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Oh, I replied over on jamsite if youre interested
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Got a link Toe-Knee for your thread?
Nice work on your site
Which thread? Well i want it to be a community more than just a mine of resources :) but as MDV said we need members for that.
I originally planned for it to be a home away from home for the BKP Album but people that showed interest initially just arent appearing (well some are) but just as an actual forum for recording is also a great thing.
Especially as every single one ive been on has some kind of bias or arrogance
The sneap forum i have found to be worst out of the lot as everyone seems so very stuck up and not very willing to help anyone
Actually thinking about it after that 'thread' on songcrafters i think that is the worst just because of the attitude of some of the users
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Oh, I replied over on jamsite if youre interested
what on earth to? they were talking about Hairy thumbs and whatnot the last i checked. I'll take a look though just as the thread amuses me.
Mainly because it went from something that could've been very helpful to there community into a Micro BR vs MDV war in seconds
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Got a link Toe-Knee for your thread?
Nice work on your site
The sneap forum i have found to be worst out of the lot as everyone seems so very stuck up and not very willing to help anyone
I like the sneap forum. I lurk there lots, ask if I have anything terribly problematic and hope they dont bite my head off for n00bishness :lol:
There are a lot of VERY good audio engineers on there. Many of them tracking and mixing full on pro albums, not just a local shmuck like me.
I think they just get sick of answering the same old questions that are common knowledge over there. Plus metal-purist forums often have a very partisan atmosphere, and they're all metal guys mixing metal. I suppose the two dont add up very well, but it doesnt change the fact that they know $%&#loads and many of them can track and mix to a very high standard indeed.
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Oh, I replied over on jamsite if youre interested
what on earth to? they were talking about Hairy thumbs and whatnot the last i checked. I'll take a look though just as the thread amuses me.
Mainly because it went from something that could've been very helpful to there community into a Micro BR vs MDV war in seconds
No, on the guitar sounds thread on your/our/whatever 'jamsite', not songbutcherers!
Wake up tony!
Punchy mixes!
;)
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Haha yeah i am half asleep i'm just reading the thread now.
And the Sneap forum thing i guess is because they bite your head of for not knowing certain things. But i do understand that there is a lot of talent on there
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I'm not too keen on the idea of a competition :( I'd have to get some very esoteric pickup to ensure I'm the only entrant for that category!
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I'm not too keen on the idea of a competition :( I'd have to get some very esoteric pickup to ensure I'm the only entrant for that category!
Well the competition guidelines & the competitions themselves haven't even been thought about yet i was gonna figure that one out as & when there's more members and it could be a competition in tiers rather than pickups.
Say more origininality & tone and have a few categories for say people with amps,modellers etc to keep it fair
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OH GO ON THEN
Signed up and awaiting approval from the mod gods. It'll give me a chance to do something with the zillions of drum tracks and bass lines I never get turned into finished tunes. Just don't ask me to play anything fast. I don't do fast.
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You are not authorised to read this forum.
Jamsite forums down?
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Nope.
Tonys done some revamping, send him a pm on here if youre having trouble
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Well even when logged out, I get this:
This board has no forums.
Is there an updated link or something?
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No, its the same. http://www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite/
Works fine for me.
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Odd, now it works for me if I don't log in (which it didn't before!). Still screwed for my user though...
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There was a few minor hiccups with permissions... i think personally i forgot to set them so everyone that was moved into the BKP group had no permissions whatsoever other than MDV who also has global mod permissions so it was fine for him.
I've reverted the theme back to the default for now and it should all be sorted with a new look later on today.
Sorry
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Just a quick update.
The foum has now had a complete visual rejig and a few other mods to make it quicker and easier to use such as the quick reply function actually functioning now :)
I'm currently looking into further mods such as automatic file embedding/integration however next time i wont do any updates late at night when im tired so there wont be any more errors such as the one above :P
www.infocus.ho8.com/jamsite
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Very cool it looks too.
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I notice you've changed the logo so there's only 1 tele and it's on fire, I approve :)
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I notice you've changed the logo so there's only 1 tele and it's on fire, I approve :)
i thought you would :D