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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: jibidy on November 26, 2010, 10:18:51 PM

Title: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: jibidy on November 26, 2010, 10:18:51 PM

I have a 1970's/1980's shergold masquerader.

Its in need of a new nut and new machine heads. Trouble is the machine heads are different from modern guitars.

These look like the only one that have the same screw position.

http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/allparts-guitar-amp-parts/tuning-keys/guitar/3-x-3-tuning-keys/economy-tuning-keys-w-diagonal-mounting-holes-3x3-p-1565.html

as you can see they have a diagonal screw position.

Are these machine heads any good. They are called economy tuners and they are only £15. Sounds like cheapies.

Will any others fit or am I gonna have to get the drill out? :chain:

Cheers all.

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: WezV on November 26, 2010, 10:27:52 PM

i would just upgrade and put the originals aside somewhere

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: jibidy on November 26, 2010, 10:31:13 PM

Quote from: WezV on November 26, 2010, 10:27:52 PM

i would just upgrade and put the originals aside somewhere

Upgrade to those in the link?

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: 1reeper on November 27, 2010, 12:06:59 AM

tbh, I would't touch those tuners even if they paid me.  Maybe I'm just spoiled on nice tuners, but the covered "economy" tuners have never worked properly for me.

Do you have any pics of the old tuners?  It'd be easier to suggest upgrades with original pics.

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: Transcend on November 27, 2010, 10:39:17 AM

i have found grover tuners in the past that have the lower left screw and it will be plenty secure enough with one screw only.

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 27, 2010, 11:19:15 AM

what about Schaller M6 nylon - or are the screws in opposite positions to the ones you need?
I have seen Shergolds withthese fitted

We can get hold of these if you like.....

http://guitar-machine-heads.com/hp135054/Artikel-Liste.htm (http://guitar-machine-heads.com/hp135054/Artikel-Liste.htm)

(http://schaller-electronic.de/download/CY417454a4X127ba1e578aXY1ccf/91___M6.jpg?ITServ=C75066bd5X12c8cf72284X6c6)

(http://guitar-machine-heads.com/download/C1ffcfe16X12a3c495d85X435d/GitarrenMechanik_M6LightNylon.jpg)

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: Philly Q on November 27, 2010, 01:00:31 PM

I certainly wouldn't get those Allparts "economy" ones, they're rubbish.  Not worth buying at any price.

I think you might have trouble getting a decent quality match for the existing tuners.  Could be worth biting the bullet and drilling some new holes!

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 27, 2010, 05:00:17 PM

(http://www.guitarmart.co.uk/advert/G05794/image-6443-L.jpg)

Here is a 1977 Shergold headstock from the rear

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: Philly Q on November 27, 2010, 09:34:59 PM

Good call, Jon!  :D

Title: Re: Need some Machine Head advice.
Post by: jibidy on November 29, 2010, 12:32:35 AM

Quote from: Philly Q on November 27, 2010, 09:34:59 PM

Good call, Jon!  :D

I think I will!