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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Dmoney on December 27, 2010, 06:00:58 PM

Title: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 27, 2010, 06:00:58 PM

SO this is what my crazy posting has been about...
On my last night shift i was looking at these again, and decided that I'd stop off in liverpool on my way up north to see what i could find... I found a fender blacktop strat in that pale blue colour I've forgotten the name of. I didn't much like the look of it and decided to keep on moving.

I got back to my old village, which has one guitar shop that has a weird range stuff. lots of budget stuff and a couple of rick's and prs'. However... they had a couple of Charvels. Up close I liked the look of the San Dimas 1 over the So Cal. So i decided to have a go.

The action felt a bit high, and it was totally out of tune so i struggled getting it set, due to my unfamiliarity with the floyd.  I was told it had never been played. it isn't back routed so it won't pull up that far. The neck pickup was low output but that has been fixed. probably a bad joint.

I used to think I'd not suit a strat at all. I guess this is no classic strat, but I actually sat down to have a go on this and ended up really really liking it! I have some plans for the kind of tone this should be capable of. This is the first non les paul or sg type guitar I've had since i first started learning to play. It feels very weird, and kind of liberating. This is now my 'go to' guitar for traveling to practices and so on, when a les paul is just that little bit to heavy, and the 333 is that bit too bulky.

I'm very surprised with myself, and quite happy. Going for Nailbombs in this, and I'm going to play around with it more before I decide on what to do with the floyd in terms of stabilizing.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/IMAG0230.jpg?t=1293471351)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/IMAG0231.jpg?t=1293471001)
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: AndyR on December 27, 2010, 06:07:50 PM
Nice one.

It isn't a "Classic Strat", but it does look kinda classic anyway...

Welcome to the dark side :D
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Andrew W on December 27, 2010, 06:11:39 PM
Ooh that's great. I do like Charvels, I used to have one of the EVH ones.  That one, in line with the great man's tastes, had the Floyd flat against the body which I ended up really liking: more sustain, no bending sharp when palm muting, easier tuning and no panics if a string breaks. If you don't need to bend up much it might be worth investigating putting the Floyd flat a la Eddie perhaps?
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Telerocker on December 27, 2010, 06:14:08 PM
Nice one! It is a classic in an '80's metal-way. And the white body with the maple neck gives it a modern Jimi-touch  :)  The colour emphasizes the stratshape.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: d1dsj on December 27, 2010, 06:17:18 PM
Nice... I like it. I like both the Strat and Tele versions... congratz.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: 38thBeatle on December 27, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
Looks great- nice clean lines.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 27, 2010, 06:29:07 PM
If you don't need to bend up much it might be worth investigating putting the Floyd flat a la Eddie perhaps?

Yeah good call. I need to set the action lower, which will probably be a small nightmare with a floyd. Once it's down it will barely go back. I read that some people put shims in the neck pocket if they decided to lay the floyd flat.

Nice one! It is a classic in an '80's metal-way. And the white body with the maple neck gives it a modern Jimi-touch  :)  The colour emphasizes the stratshape.

Yeah, its is a classic 80's vibe! the only choices I had were black or white. I preferred the white but I was nervous of it to begin with. I'd like to change the selector knob to a cream style gibson one, rather than the odd diamond kinda one it has. I'll be going for zebra pups for it.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Stevepage on December 27, 2010, 08:47:13 PM
I was looking at getting one of those. Seems like a great guitar for that price.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 27, 2010, 08:53:50 PM
yeah! and it was at the lower end of the range of prices I've seen for them, which surprised me since I got it from such a small local shop that is really on its own for miles and miles.

I'm waiting to see this pic of your new gitter
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Brow on December 27, 2010, 11:12:23 PM
Yep, that's the 1 I want too  :lol:, looks awesome!
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Telerocker on December 27, 2010, 11:28:44 PM
Nice one! It is a classic in an '80's metal-way. And the white body with the maple neck gives it a modern Jimi-touch  :)  The colour emphasizes the stratshape.

Yeah, its is a classic 80's vibe! the only choices I had were black or white. I preferred the white but I was nervous of it to begin with. I'd like to change the selector knob to a cream style gibson one, rather than the odd diamond kinda one it has. I'll be going for zebra pups for it.

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You mean cream-black? If yes, would that be classy on a white guitar? On this one, black-red zebra would give the guitar an '80's hotrod-look. Just my taste.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 27, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
Yeah i mean cream + black.

red + black you say? hmmmmmmm!
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Telerocker on December 27, 2010, 11:50:28 PM
Just a suggestion. Classic zebra's take it to a vintagelook, but with the double hb's and the floyd your Charvel oozess 'so much eighties metal-sphere, that it would tempt me to pick a signalcolour next to black. Would give it the right flavour. But hey, only my opinion.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Transcend on December 28, 2010, 12:06:01 AM
I would personally go for the solid black no pole piece covers with the guitar having such clean lines it would compliment it really well.

And they dont look too much like emgs as they dont have that greyish plasticy look its a nice matte black or i guess Tim could also do a gloss black too.

I have them in my white RGD
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: shobet on December 28, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
Nice looking Strat head. It's like being back in the early 80s. We fully expect you to start wearing spandex and back combing your hair now you've gone all hair metal on us. ;)
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 28, 2010, 12:55:19 AM
Nice looking Strat head. It's like being back in the early 80s. We fully expect you to start wearing spandex and back combing your hair now you've gone all hair metal on us. ;)


haha! this is the result of me slowly getting into Steve Vai and Paul Gilbert. Actually, a lot of bands I like from the 80's and early to mid 90's used guitars like this. Baretta's, Pacers, Gunslingers, various BC Rich's

I think this is a jackson... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJtnxD8s5Lw
Inside Out... GREAAAAAT BAND!
No spandex in sight!

I just had more of a poke around with this. it has metal plates over the trem and electronics cavity! the pot is CTS and the switch looks tidy too! no plastic parts. Even the selector knob is metal. this is a lot of guitar for what it cost. This guitar is opening my eyes to a brave new world, which also happens to be an old world, from the 80's, which happens to be the kind of world I like... kinda

Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: shobet on December 28, 2010, 01:25:53 AM
If it's 1990 as the vid suggests and the guitar is fairly new then that's probably an a lower level student (however they were  all custom at that time, so it could be something else) USA Jackson Dinky made in Ontario CA by the looks of it. Bolt on neck and dot inlays would suggest a dinky.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 28, 2010, 01:42:28 AM
its a good look!

also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_lxDgTpfDY i think that is some kind of pacer. vid from 95.
crown of thornz was such a good band.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: roland_rat on December 28, 2010, 07:09:39 AM
Congrats on the new axe.  Looks rather tasty that one.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: dave_mc on December 28, 2010, 02:21:44 PM
very nice. I've been vacillating about getting one for a while now. Problem is I can't decide which one I want... (not like me... )
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 28, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
Zebra (cream and black) nailbombs have been ordered! sweeeeeeeet!

Now to investigate the floyd related matters.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: dragonfire709 on December 28, 2010, 07:00:19 PM
Thats lovely-i've been gassing for a San Dimas II for a while, just like this;

(http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/ebay/sandimasstyle2ct2.jpg)

I haven't managed to convince the missus that i need another guitar yet though  :(.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 28, 2010, 07:02:39 PM
apparently those have been selling really badly... like its been a bit of a flop the tele shape.
I read that in a couple of places, and the guy in the shop that sold me mine mentioned it too.
maybe you could pick one up mega cheap ;)

I quite like them and I've been surprised by what I read (if it's true), I like the SD 2 in black, with black hardware and maple neck.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: gwEm on December 29, 2010, 08:37:53 AM
who says the 80s were a time of bad taste? looks very classy.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: dave_mc on December 29, 2010, 02:01:37 PM
yeah, i know over here there are some deals on the tele-shaped ones. I didn't mind the one I tried, but I vastly prefer the look of the superstrats- I'm guessing most people are the same. Like if you could afford one of each, most people wouldn't have a problem with the tele, but for most people having one of each isn't an option, or even particularly sensible if you could afford all 3 (having a bit more variety is nice, if you ask me).
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: HTH AMPS on December 29, 2010, 04:03:05 PM
I played the Strat-shaped Charvels in Guitar Guitar about a month back - really nice.  I seem to recall there were US-made and also Jap ones with only around £150-200 between them.  The neck profile on the US ones were a little fatter and I liked them better, however both were cracking guitars in the £700-£900 range.

Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Telerocker on December 29, 2010, 04:13:11 PM
That tele doesn't look bad at all.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on December 29, 2010, 06:27:46 PM
I prefer the direct mount pickup look of the Japanese ones. also, the usa one comes with a gig bag, while the Japanese one comes with a heavy hard case. I paid 599. given the spec, playability, and hardcase, I think it's a good deal.

I just got back to London and plugged into the soldano. sounds great. will be better when bkp'd.
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: CaptainDesslock on December 30, 2010, 04:12:32 AM
Thats lovely-i've been gassing for a San Dimas II for a while, just like this;

(http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/ebay/sandimasstyle2ct2.jpg)

I haven't managed to convince the missus that i need another guitar yet though  :(.

that's just $%&#ing sick, i'm always bamboozled by a guitar with less then 5 or 6  buttons and switches to play around with, but i'd take that one anyday
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: dave_mc on December 30, 2010, 01:58:06 PM
I prefer the direct mount pickup look of the Japanese ones.

so do i :)
Title: Re: Another NGD
Post by: Dmoney on January 09, 2011, 02:03:58 AM
Sorry for the poor pic. My camera phone as fried its microSD card... so photobooth it had to be!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/xtattybobx/Photoon2011-01-09at0115.jpg?t=1294537664)

this is whats been happening!
the factory setup was awful... I took this chap to Johnathan at Feline and he checked it over and sorted it out a treat!
Getting it playing really really nicely!

(thats the first time ive been to Feline... and yes... the Lion heals are incredible! Johnathan's work is first class)

We had some tuning issues but I think I've got that tracked down to a poorly finished/poor quality locking nut and retainer. I think this guitar slipped though QC at the factory a bit easily.


Tonight I got the Nailbombs in!
only had a chance to play it really quiet... but oh man!.... goodbye JB and '59! can't wait to get this cranked through the soldano! and now that the tuning/trem is more stable it's going to be great. can't wait!

I also took the time to rewire the whole guitar with braided single core wire, rather than thin shielded wires connected with frail joints. The soldering of the neck pickup to the switch was intermittent anyway. So, right now this is coming along leaps and bounds I think... what i mean by that is that im starting to get to grips with what im comfortable with when it comes to the floyd and all its trickery!