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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: brian_ward on January 10, 2011, 05:33:56 PM

Title: tele advice?
Post by: brian_ward on January 10, 2011, 05:33:56 PM
im looking at either the american special or the classic players baja tele. i have played an american special and i liked it but the frets seemed a little big. the fit and finish was excellent though. action was low enough and was realitively buzz free. im more interested because of the features the classic players baja tele boasts. the s1 switching, the larger neck and the smaller more tele-like frets are all cool and i would like to have them. my concern is that im unable to play the baja because none of the local stores carry them and am leary of the consistency of the instruments coming out of mexico.  anyone have advice?

brian.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Elliot on January 10, 2011, 06:10:04 PM
Baja's are excellent and the quality of the Mexican Fender factory is very good for factory made guitars.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: tomjackson on January 10, 2011, 07:08:14 PM
Baja's are excellent and the quality of the Mexican Fender factory is very good for factory made guitars.

+1 great guitars and every one I have played was good.  As far as buying a guitar without playing it goes I would say the Baja's are relatively low risk.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Ian Price on January 10, 2011, 07:17:44 PM
Most definitely a +1 on the Baja from me. I have tried a few and they have all been good - the one I got is pretty resonant acoustically and sounds great with BG flat 50s.

If you do get one I'd recommend those pups - as would many on the forum.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: brian_ward on January 10, 2011, 07:22:26 PM
Most definitely a +1 on the Baja from me. I have tried a few and they have all been good - the one I got is pretty resonant acoustically and sounds great with BG flat 50s.

If you do get one I'd recommend those pups - as would many on the forum.

cool. i talked to the guy at gc today and he said i could order the baja and play it and if i like the american standard more i could just exchange it. whichever i end up with is definitely getting the newly revamped flat 50s or possibly the boss. thats a whole separate issue though. thanks.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 11, 2011, 12:12:47 PM
My advice is don't get a tele.

But you won't heed it. I mean, you obviously don't realise now that they look sh!t and they make their player look sh!t, so you'll probably never realise this!

Shame.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: MrBump on January 11, 2011, 12:19:09 PM
My advice is don't get a tele.

But you won't heed it. I mean, you obviously don't realise now that they look sh!t and they make their player look sh!t, so you'll probably never realise this!

Shame.

Slow day at work, Roo?

;)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: horsehead on January 11, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
I'm just finding it shocking that Roo is commenting about teles!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Ratrod on January 11, 2011, 12:27:45 PM
Never mind Roo. He has Tele Tourette's. He can't help it.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 11, 2011, 01:38:15 PM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 11, 2011, 01:53:15 PM
Sorry, I got as far as the 'BEATLES' (seriously, dude, take your caps lock key and throw it in the bin), then could read no more of your post.

As for:
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You can go with you standard one's and with a pup change,caps and add a 4 way switch and you can go from COUNTRY to THRASH METAL with the flck of a switch

Whether or not this is true, you'll still look like a total tw@t, because you're wearing a tele. End of story.

The only thing you could have said to make your argument even worse would be something like: 'Even traffic wardens love the look of the telecaster'.

Yeah, I think I do have tele Tourette's. :)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: shobet on January 11, 2011, 01:55:14 PM
Jesus H Christ, that will have roo going apoplectic!

Nice collection you have St. James. Not jealous at all, nope, not in the least.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 11, 2011, 02:28:57 PM
 8)

Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Philly Q on January 11, 2011, 02:55:24 PM
.......your life is empty and you prefer to spend more time talking about playing guitar rather trhan practicing so MAYBE one day someone will hire you to play for them.

Nah, that's me.  :wink:



Don't mind Roo, it's just his way.... he has a pathological hatred of Teles.  You have to get used to him.



(Love the '55 LP goldtop!  :o :)  )
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: gwEm on January 11, 2011, 03:07:17 PM
So you're not a TELE man....let me guess a STRAT player....HOW ORIGINAL!!!

he plays a quite unique fanned fret custom build.

anyway, the whole Roo vs Telecaster thing is kind of a forum running joke. we all know hes a big tele loving paul macartney fan really.

i enjoyed reading your rant though - Roo had it coming to him  :lol:

nice guitars there mate
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: MrBump on January 11, 2011, 03:10:10 PM
Yes - don't take any of Roo's comments personally.  We all know he owns a pink paisley Telecaster.

Mark.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 11, 2011, 03:16:24 PM
I'm genuinely sorry to hear you've a tumour in your left eye and have heart problems. I am a cancer research scientist, and am committed to finding treatments for all types of this truly horrible illness.  

But my 'caps lock' plea was not for your benefit, but for the benefit of readers of your posts! It's genuinely really difficult to read with upper case words all over the place - as though you're SHOUTING every other WORD... Kind of makes you sound like a lunatic! By the way, this has nothing to do with either grammar or spelling (neither of which I passed comment on, by the way - and normally I might).

I don't actually look at post count. Welcome to the forums :)

(PS I don't mind strats, LPs, SGs, most guitar shapes, in fact, though I have no need of any of these. Just hate the tele shape with a vengeance. I have never - in caps, NEVER - seen a picture or video or player in real life playing one who didn't look like a tw@t, so don't take it personally :))
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: gwEm on January 11, 2011, 03:25:04 PM
come on Roo, he looks like a really cool guy:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/hekawi/mccartneyesq.jpg)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 11, 2011, 03:29:18 PM
For the record, I do not live in a yellow submarine, and while I don't mind frogs, I think it's pointless to sing to them, unless they're particularly sad. And if that were the case, I'm sure they'd prefer some nice meshuggah.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 11, 2011, 03:51:31 PM
 8)

Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: shobet on January 11, 2011, 03:51:56 PM
8)
So say what ya will.....but bottom line is if I die friday I WIN !!!!!

St. James, If you snuff it can I have your guitars and amps? I wont say no to the property either. ;)

You get used to Roo, it's fun baiting him with things like this!
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/5065247112_6a7c2838cf_o.jpg)

and this
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5064630449_010f464720_z.jpg)

He'll be frothing by now. :)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 11, 2011, 03:55:57 PM
On the plus side, shobet, at least it's not my money being wasted on those monstrosities. But it is very often reasonable tone wood which is being wasted, and I must object to that!
Title: !!!!
Post by: St.James on January 11, 2011, 03:58:39 PM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: shobet on January 11, 2011, 04:02:58 PM
On the plus side, shobet, at least it's not my money being wasted on those monstrosities. But it is very often reasonable tone wood which is being wasted, and I must object to that!

Hold on, you play hardcore dropped tuned to Z. You wouldn't know tone even if it bit you on the arse. ;)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: shobet on January 11, 2011, 04:06:48 PM
hatew to say it but my wife knows the value of each piece and was looking at Vintage guitar last night to see what their values are today

but no claims in the white 61 vette I just posted a pic of!!!! The 48 harley was just sold.

But I am sure you will be very happy with the amps that are left or since you too enjoy a tele nown then you can ask her about them but the 56 gets burried with me since it was my first but that 71 Custom and 72 DELUXE are heaven !!!!

PURE heaven !!!!

St james

The amps and the car will do I suppose.

In the mean time to you have many more pictures of the Tele's, I for one would like to see more Tele action! I'm sure Roo secretly does as well. I suspect he has pictures of Telecasters on his pyjamas. 
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 11, 2011, 04:12:22 PM
On the plus side, shobet, at least it's not my money being wasted on those monstrosities. But it is very often reasonable tone wood which is being wasted, and I must object to that!

Hold on, you play hardcore dropped tuned to Z. You wouldn't know tone even if it bit you on the arse. ;)

la la la la not listening!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 11, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: shobet on January 11, 2011, 04:44:52 PM
SHOOBUT,That CUSTOM SHOP 52 HOT ROD is sweet........is it a 1 piece body>>>?????

St James

The nocaster is a very light 2 piece body just under 6lbs with the strap according to my scales. I love the neck on it as well, it's huge. I think I could beat someone to death with it.

She's real purdy and spanks like a professional dominatrix!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Elliot on January 11, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Anyway - back to the OP - Brian I should just point out, that if you want aftermarket pickups that work with the S1 you should ask the manufacturer (such as Tim) to make it S1 compatible - it needs an extra wire from the neck pickup.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Telerocker on January 11, 2011, 08:20:03 PM
I think the Baja is the bang for the bucks. Throw in BG50's or '52's and, big authentic tele-tone, which is an absolutely unique tone. Amen!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Ian Price on January 11, 2011, 10:57:55 PM
I still love that CS Huw. Makes me want to whack a HB in my Baja and sand the finish down a bit.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Twinfan on January 11, 2011, 11:11:29 PM
I've just come back from rehearsal having used my Fender CS Esquire for the first time in ages.

It rocked a proper good one, and I'd forgotten what a superb guitar it is.  I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the Tele is the best guitar ever, no matter what Roo says!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Telerocker on January 11, 2011, 11:33:14 PM
I've just come back from rehearsal having used my Fender CS Esquire for the first time in ages.

It rocked a proper good one, and I'd forgotten what a superb guitar it is.  I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the Tele is the best guitar ever, no matter what Roo says!

Don't make me jealous with the CS Esquire. Great plank!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Ian Price on January 11, 2011, 11:35:16 PM
Agree with that Dave. I think I'm gonna stick to teles from now on. I most definitely will get a CS Esquire again one day!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Andrew W on January 12, 2011, 08:40:16 AM
I'm interested to see that the Baja Tele is getting lots of love but no-one's mentioned the Road Worn.  I ahven't tried either but I had assumed (probably wrongly) that they would be quite similar.  Have I missed something?
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: tomjackson on January 12, 2011, 08:58:32 AM
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As far as me looking like a TW&&&&t.....maybe I did on the 8 ALBUMS I did with my band and 7 others I played on,
I'm sure on the 5 WORLD TOURS made me look foolish too and of course the 50 plus USA and CANADIAN tours I have been on made me look real foolish and especially when I go to the bank I look real foolish...
I'm 55 retired, have 16 MC,  4 corvettes, drivce a BENZ and have 36 Guitars... and a Condo in NYC and one in LA.....yeah I look real foolish....


St James,

Sorry to hear about your illness, I'm sure all will go well on Friday and we'll be thinking of ya!

Interested to hear what albums you have played on and also if you have any youtube clips of you back in the day, that would be nice to see.

Nice Corvette as well!

BTW, Teles should only ever have a 3-way switch, the 4-way mod should be baned :D
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Telerocker on January 12, 2011, 10:17:40 AM
I'm interested to see that the Baja Tele is getting lots of love but no-one's mentioned the Road Worn.  I ahven't tried either but I had assumed (probably wrongly) that they would be quite similar.  Have I missed something?

The Road Worn is a nice tele, but more expensive then the Baja. If money was no issue, I would favour the Road Worn, but the Baja is great for the price and you save some money to upgrade with BKP's.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Philly Q on January 12, 2011, 12:00:03 PM
I'm interested to see that the Baja Tele is getting lots of love but no-one's mentioned the Road Worn.  I ahven't tried either but I had assumed (probably wrongly) that they would be quite similar.  Have I missed something?

The Road Worn is a nice tele, but more expensive then the Baja. If money was no issue, I would favour the Road Worn, but the Baja is great for the price and you save some money to upgrade with BKP's.

I've got a Road Worn Deluxe, so not a direct comparison, but with the relic finish it feels very different from the thick glossy finish on the Baja.   I guess the underlying guitar is probably pretty similar though.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: gordiji on January 12, 2011, 12:22:02 PM
Best wishes for friday St.James.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Telerocker on January 12, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
I'm interested to see that the Baja Tele is getting lots of love but no-one's mentioned the Road Worn.  I ahven't tried either but I had assumed (probably wrongly) that they would be quite similar.  Have I missed something?

The Road Worn is a nice tele, but more expensive then the Baja. If money was no issue, I would favour the Road Worn, but the Baja is great for the price and you save some money to upgrade with BKP's.

I've got a Road Worn Deluxe, so not a direct comparison, but with the relic finish it feels very different from the thick glossy finish on the Baja.   I guess the underlying guitar is probably pretty similar though.

You're absolutely right. I would favour the RW, just when the budget is small, a used Baja is a nice alternative.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 12:42:12 AM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: shobet on January 13, 2011, 01:01:00 AM
Good luck with op mate. Try not to enjoy the meds too much! ;)
I still want a group shot of all the planks when you're better as well.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 01:09:45 AM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: AndyR on January 13, 2011, 08:17:21 AM
I'm interested to see that the Baja Tele is getting lots of love but no-one's mentioned the Road Worn.  I ahven't tried either but I had assumed (probably wrongly) that they would be quite similar.  Have I missed something?

The Road Worn is a nice tele, but more expensive then the Baja. If money was no issue, I would favour the Road Worn, but the Baja is great for the price and you save some money to upgrade with BKP's.

I've got a Road Worn Deluxe, so not a direct comparison, but with the relic finish it feels very different from the thick glossy finish on the Baja.   I guess the underlying guitar is probably pretty similar though.

You're absolutely right. I would favour the RW, just when the budget is small, a used Baja is a nice alternative.

+1 to all this.

I've played a couple of RW 50s. Both were fantastic guitars, "better" than my Baja at doing roughly the same job. But I'm kind of committed to my Baja, so both times I couldn't justify yet another tele to do the same job... :lol:

If I was starting over, and had the budget, I would choose all the RW 50s I've played over all the Bajas I've played. But I'm still not parting with my Baja!

I've noticed the RW 50s can be a bit patchy over looks - this'll be personal taste though - of the two I've played, one looked stunning to me, and one looked "ok it's acceptable". I've since seen one that looked "er, no thanks" and I wouldn't even get it off the wall to try (even though the missus suggested I did, knowing what that might result in if I liked it :lol:)


St James - good luck with the op. I like reading your posts :D
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Twinfan on January 13, 2011, 11:37:45 AM
The S1 switch is a series/parallel in-out of phase arrangement.

Not just a capacitor or two  ;)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 11:45:04 AM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Philly Q on January 13, 2011, 12:02:27 PM
PHILLY Q are you from PHILLY????

Nah, I'm from Swansea.  And my name's Phil.  :lol:

I like your Junior, Blueshawk etc.  And your Pee Wee doll. 
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Twinfan on January 13, 2011, 12:06:00 PM
Can a 4 way be introduced into a S-1 switched set up?

That's exactly what the MIM Baja Tele has as standard, and also the Custom Shope Player series  ;)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 12:18:17 PM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 13, 2011, 01:29:07 PM
The off-parallel bridge pickup on that les paul looks very odd, because the frets *are* parallel. Curious!
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: PhilKing on January 13, 2011, 02:28:14 PM
Thanks TWIN FAN....I gotta tear one apart to look at it.
I love screwing around with electronics....I started out in the early 70's after Namn working as a Guitar Tech for the
NEW YORK DOLLS
Did you know John & Lisa Frazie (they used to live on 2nd ave between 29th & 30th)?  They used to hang out with the dolls in the 70's.  Lisa's ex-husband used to have an old fur loft next to Johnny Thunder in the west 30's.  It still had the old safe door in it.  This was back in the early 80's.

I'm the Hoboken BK guy (or one of them - I'm not sure if anyone else on the forum lives here).  

I hope your surgery goes well.  
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 03:21:04 PM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Dmoney on January 13, 2011, 03:29:21 PM
CB's. shame its closed down.
closest I got was watching Gorilla Biscuits reunion stream on the internerd.... well going Albany was the closest I got.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: nfe on January 13, 2011, 04:06:36 PM
Someone needs to confiscate your caps lock button.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Dmoney on January 13, 2011, 04:12:05 PM
all i know about the Lower East Side starts and ends with WarZone.
r.i.p Raybeez
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: shobet on January 13, 2011, 04:16:52 PM
Someone needs to confiscate your caps lock button.

Here we go again...
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 13, 2011, 04:17:39 PM
Someone needs to confiscate your caps lock button.
We've all been saying it, makes no difference. The bonus for me is I haven't got the patience to read through it all (and I've no idea of any of the people or places anyway) so I'm not missing out on much :)

Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 13, 2011, 04:21:15 PM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Dmoney on January 13, 2011, 04:23:43 PM
well... i was on about the band Warzone... but they took that name because the lower east side was a warzone.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Roobubba on January 13, 2011, 07:29:57 PM
I'm not trying to be funny or difficult here, but you don't hit caps to see, you hit caps for emphasis. Unfortunately, it makes it very difficult to actually read: as a reader, your eyes flit between the upper case words and skip all the rest in between. That, coupled with the feeling of being shouted at every other word, is why we're all bitching about it! :)
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: 38thBeatle on January 13, 2011, 08:10:40 PM
Roo, James can't see the keyboard too well and accidentally hits it.
Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: St.James on January 14, 2011, 01:41:44 AM
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Title: Re: tele advice?
Post by: Dmoney on January 14, 2011, 10:16:49 PM
Ray Barbeiri (think i spelled that right) aka RayBeez sang in WarZone.
They formed in 82 i think. maybe 84. Ray sang for agnostic front before warzone.

They were skinhead hardcore punk kids. Warzone lasted 15 years I think.