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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: Nadz1lla on February 16, 2011, 07:03:22 PM

Title: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 16, 2011, 07:03:22 PM
Hey all,

Pretty new to wiring, did my own set of Nailbombs a while back and thankfully that worked.

My 7 string is pretty buggered, wiring-wise. Pups are Duncans but I want to change them to BKP's. The signal is being lost in the current wiring at the moment, everything looks okay as far as solder integrity goes...

So what I'm going to do is order my new BKP's and also grab myself some new pots and a new switch. I'm after 1 tone, 1 vol and 1 3-way switch, what can you guys recommend as the best bunch of gubbins to go for?

I may also need a pointer to a diagram somewhere, heh.  :lol:
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on February 16, 2011, 07:12:14 PM
Firstly are you going for any fancy wiring or just straight up humbucking?

CTS or Alpha would be my recommendation pot wise and switches i have no idea i have always just used whatevers in the guitar.

Are you finally getting the painkiller?
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 16, 2011, 07:23:34 PM
Yeah since I learned about conversion necks for different scale lengths, I can finally see a cheaper way of getting the sounds I want, hehe. So PK and longer neck it is. Straight up Humbucking too.  ;)
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on February 16, 2011, 07:24:54 PM
Yeah since I learned about conversion necks for different scale lengths, I can finally see a cheaper way of getting the sounds I want, hehe. So PK and longer neck it is. Straight up Humbucking too.  ;)

youll have no problem just using the bkp 2 hum 1 vol/3way schematic then
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 16, 2011, 07:37:25 PM
Don'rt know the difference between 2 conductor and 4 conductor.... or pot variations (hz etc).... oh man, lots of research to do, lol!  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on February 16, 2011, 07:44:15 PM
You only need 2 conductor but i would recommend 4 as then if you later decide you want extra wiring options its always there plus it helps if you ever come to sell it.

And for humbuckers you want 500k at least i think youll probably need short leg too (its a schecter isnt it?)
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 16, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
Nah, Jackson, it's this but with a Floyd Rose (which, again, I will be brassing up and trem-stopping with another brass L plate...nom nom nom toooone!)

So hopefully will sound like a monster when I've modded it properly. Getting into this Frankenguitar lark.  :D
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on February 16, 2011, 08:18:23 PM
haha its addictive once you get started.

and yeah jacksons require short leg too.
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 16, 2011, 08:49:48 PM
Thanks dude, mucho appreciated!
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on February 16, 2011, 09:14:39 PM
np
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: ToneMonkey on February 18, 2011, 08:16:34 AM
Pay attention to the shaft length and whether it is ribbed or smooth (I'm sure Afgan will be here to make a comment about that particular statement) when you order the pots.
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Frank on February 18, 2011, 08:59:07 AM
If you're looking for wiring diagrams then Seymour's yer man

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/

and I keep linking Deaf Eddie because of his PDF about unknown colour codes on pickup wires

http://www.deaf-eddie.net/drawings/drawings.html

and this is usually right but occasionally wrong so approach with caution

http://www.guitar-repairs.co.uk/guitar_pickup_colour_codes.htm
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 18, 2011, 05:58:04 PM
Cool thanks for the advice, guys!
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on March 02, 2011, 10:01:26 PM
Ok, I have a pair of new BKP pots and a pair of BKP caps too...but I might be thick, as I can't find a relevant wiring diagram on the site?

It's for a set of nailbombs, 1 tone, 1 vol and a three way switch. no coil tapping or fancy stuff, just that plain ol setup.

Any ideas? I'd need a diagram that also includes the caps.  :?
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on March 02, 2011, 10:08:57 PM
http://static.zoovy.com/img/guitarelectronics/W650-H550-Bffffff/W/wd2hh3t11_00.jpg

change the north start for the red wire

the green & whites should be taped off together

and the black and bare go to ground!
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on March 02, 2011, 10:16:33 PM
Cheers dude, what about the new caps? Tim rec'd two, one for neck and one for bridge. Any idea where I put them in the chain?
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on March 02, 2011, 10:17:44 PM
2 caps with just one vol & tone?

i've never come across this before i just generally go with whats on that diagram

you do have a 3 way toggle dont you & not a blade?
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on March 02, 2011, 10:21:53 PM
If its the blade method i cant find any good diagrams but i can dissasemble my RGA and tell you exactly what pins you need to solder to
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on March 02, 2011, 10:22:02 PM
Yeah.  o_0

I was sent this:
For use with humbuckers I recommend our new CTS550K custom audio taper pots for both volume and tone applications and our BKP/Jensen paper in oil capacitors - 0.022mfd for the bridge tone and 0.015mfd for the neck tone.The 550K rating loads the pickup less allowing for slightly more output and increased high end response with improved dynamics while the paper in oil caps maintain clarity and definition during treble roll off as well as a more usable tone sweep.

Ah I see now.... I was mistaken, I have 2 vol and a tone. D'oh!  >_<

Oh and defo a toggle, not blade.
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on March 02, 2011, 10:24:54 PM
ahh in that case you can use the official diagram

http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/downloads/schematics/general/humbuckers/2_hum__2_vol_1tone__3_way_toggle.pdf

you could always convert one of the vol pots into a tone by placing the cap in the same place as it is on that diagram across one of the pots

I however would find 2 vol more useful

As generally i just have 1 vol & the switch other than on my RGD as that has parrallell wiring and the tone pot has a nice effect in that mode
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Nadz1lla on March 02, 2011, 10:28:04 PM
Seeing as I bought two I might as well use them. Plus I like a little variance in tones sometimes, heh.
Title: Re: New set of wiring gubbins
Post by: Transcend on March 02, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
Seeing as I bought two I might as well use them. Plus I like a little variance in tones sometimes, heh.

hmm im not quite sure how you would go about wiring it

check the bkp site for

2x humbucker 1 vol, 2 tone 3 way toggle

because youll have to have the volume as a master volume