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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: alexjg391 on March 01, 2011, 06:45:24 PM

Title: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: alexjg391 on March 01, 2011, 06:45:24 PM
Hi guys, I'm looking for a Lamb of God style tone from my guitar, so basically I'm looking for a pickup that is good for metal with a nice tight bottom end, but doesn't sound like every other metalcore band out there. Basically, I'm looking for something that sounds 'alive' and not compressed like all the active pickups.
The guitar is an Ibanez SZ1220 Prestige, which has a thick flamed maple top, a mahogany body and mahogany set neck.
I was thinking of nailbombs, but do you guys have any other suggestions? And also, do you think I'd be better off with a ceramic magnet in the bridge for that extra tightness?
Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Nolly on March 01, 2011, 08:56:20 PM
Personally I'd recommend trying a pair of Black Dogs - tight and aggressive, but at the same time open and uncompressed, and fully in keeping with LoG's preference for PAF-based pickups. In fact, you could even drop down a notch to the Mules for the true PAF experience, though they aren't as naturally snarly in the midrange as the Black Dogs are.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Alex on March 01, 2011, 09:35:41 PM
No, the BD's low end won't sound right.

This is a tough one. The Seymour JB is an obvious choice because of the very tight low end and the spikey upper mids/treble, that nastiness is part of that LoG tone if you ask me. I wouldn't know which Bareknuckle does that. I just got rid of the JB in one of my guitars because the only good tone I got out of it was that LoG sound, actually.
AFAIK half of LoG plays the JB, the bearded fat guy with the camo LesPauls I think. THe other guy I think plays the SH-1, which is also rather trebly.
I'd carefully point you towards the direction of the Rebel Yell, Coldsweat or Aftermatch - very tight pickups on the brighter side.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: alexjg391 on March 01, 2011, 10:01:46 PM
Hmm, I know that it is considered a part of their sound, but I wouldn't want anything too treble-y or a one trick pony. When I say LoG's tone, I mean more of the way it sounds completely 'organic' and natural, not like some of the bands out there today who just plug into AxeFX and all sound digital and the same, if that makes sense? I really like the sound of the nailbomb demos on the youtube channel, but I am curious as to whether it would do what I want/suit my guitar?
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Madsakre on March 01, 2011, 10:32:34 PM
nailbomb, a5 version. Listen to sikth, they have an amazingly organic metal tone. I think that i remeber that one of their guitarists used the a5 nailbomb in his blackmachine guitar.

The song:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23RXfdCHBAU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23RXfdCHBAU)


Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: nfe on March 01, 2011, 10:39:58 PM
This song was used as an example on another forum recently for something or other and I'd never heard teh second Sikth album, I think it's a mess of cr@p guitar tones, not like the great sounds on their first record. Not a good advert for any gear involved, to me.

Pin has ceramic Nailbombs anyway I think.

All that said, I do think the conventional Nailbomb might be a good way to go. :lol:
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Spitfire on March 01, 2011, 10:41:27 PM
if you want to sound like an SD JB, get an SD JB...
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: alexjg391 on March 02, 2011, 12:39:14 AM
I think I'm leaning towards the nailbombs, do you think the ceramic magnet for the bridge would be too bright or not?
Because if its not, I would prefer the extra tightness the ceramic would bring to my sound.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: ericsabbath on March 02, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
alnico nailbomb
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Vilches3 on March 02, 2011, 07:51:17 AM
Willie Adler uses JB's

Mark Morton has some guitars with Breeds and some with 59's - atleast according to thi guitar world mag i have

Id say Cold Sweats, Nailbombs or Divers. If trying to get his rawer more open tone, i agree with blackdogs, but one of the other 3 mentioned for the main stuff.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: alexjg391 on March 02, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
Out of interest, what would you guys consider the pros/cons of the alnico and ceramic nailbombs to be for this application?
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Telerocker on March 02, 2011, 08:31:13 PM
In this case I think ceramic is better, cause tighter.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Alex on March 02, 2011, 08:53:38 PM
In this case I think ceramic is better, cause tighter.

I'd say that as well, especially considering your Ibby SZ is probably a warmer and bigger sounding guitar. You'll want to rein in that low end as much as you can.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: ericsabbath on March 02, 2011, 09:03:32 PM
lamb of god tone isn't that tight anyway

unless you're a recto player, I'll keep the alnico nailbomb advice
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Madsakre on March 02, 2011, 10:15:46 PM
my thought exactly. in my opinion Log's tone is as bad as their music :)
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Emperoff on March 03, 2011, 04:43:37 AM
my thought exactly. in my opinion Log's tone is as bad as their music :)

I love their music, but I totally despise their tone.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: braintheory on March 03, 2011, 06:04:56 PM
I like their tone, but hate their music.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: alexjg391 on March 04, 2011, 12:09:22 AM
I went for the Ceramic Nailbomb in the end as I felt it would give me both the tightness and the tone i was after. Thanks for your help guys! :)
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: adamj on March 05, 2011, 10:43:49 AM
bear in mind Lamb Of God as far as i remember, use two noise gates to tighten the tone up, and they double track every guitar line they record, which will affect what your trying to achieve quite a lot!!!
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: ericsabbath on March 05, 2011, 02:02:12 PM
well, they record with a '75 les paul goldtop (deluxe) with a duncan '59 in the bridge
their recorded tones don't sound ceramic at all

Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: ericsabbath on March 05, 2011, 04:47:04 PM
No point havin em side by side

not always
if you have a long chain of noisy effects, you could use one before them (to keep the guitar noise from getting amplified) and another at the end of the chain
in my experience, most of the noise comes from electro/electronic devices in the room (including some lamps, fans, PC monitors) interfering with the guitar pickups
it just gets amplified by the pedals (especially overdrives, boosters and equalizers) and the amp
most outlets here are hardly grounded, so supply powered pedals tend to add some noise (including the noise gate itself)
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: Alex on March 05, 2011, 06:04:12 PM
Noise gates aren't part of any sound. They are supposed to only cut out noise when NOT playing.
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: adamj on March 05, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
not too suure on the details to be honest, but they released a version of Sacrament with the individual instrument tracks as a remix competition some time ago, and i remember those details from a review of their sound,
Title: Re: Lamb of God tone.
Post by: dheim on March 06, 2011, 11:00:39 AM
Noise gates aren't part of any sound. They are supposed to only cut out noise when NOT playing.

sure, but they can change a lot of the attack if used obtrusively