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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Davey on May 01, 2011, 02:00:49 AM

Title: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Davey on May 01, 2011, 02:00:49 AM
I'm in the market for a 7 string and the Interceptor 727 got my attention.
My first intention was to get a Loomis FR and go from there, but i'd have to order one and they aren't that cheap to begin with.
The rest don't really have the specs i'm after, then i remembered agile make some good bang for the buck guitars, so i'd really appreciate any info you guys could give me.

thanks
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: horsehead on May 01, 2011, 08:52:04 AM
As far as I know there is no retailer in Europe at all! I think theres just the american guys who do them on evilbay
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Transcend on May 01, 2011, 09:14:51 AM
Its best to order them direct from Rondo music or if you can get someone in the US to order one to there address and send it on to you that way you can more than likely avoid any duty charges.
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Davey on May 01, 2011, 11:04:43 AM
yyeah, stayed up last night .. or this morning till 4am, looking for ways to get it over :P

i doubt i can get away with customs if i get it shipped to my address. only way if someone smuggles it over in their luggage, since i doubt anyone can, it's postponed for now..

thanks anyway
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Jonny on May 01, 2011, 12:17:39 PM
It's only £440 for a decent Agile LP.
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Davey on May 01, 2011, 12:54:15 PM
not interested in the LP's :) .. want an interceptor pro 727, new
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Nadz1lla on May 01, 2011, 09:25:58 PM
I got my Septor Pro recently, £440 delivered and so far no Customs charges. Although I have heard stories of people thinking they are in the clear and then a bill comes through a couple of weeks later.   :?
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Davey on May 01, 2011, 10:49:12 PM
well.. over here you have to pay the customs charges up front. once it's at your door, you're in the clear.
since the interceptor pro is about 460€ plus a case and shipping, which add up to about 150€ and then VAT + customs charges on top of that, i can't really afford it at the moment, with me living and all that fancy stuff like food :D
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Transcend on May 01, 2011, 10:50:32 PM
when i got my first one parcelforce withheld it until i paid the customs charges.

The second (even though it was a cr@p one that i had a week) got through with no customs charges
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: ToneMonkey on May 04, 2011, 11:24:28 AM
Not that I'm suggesting it's a good idea, but if you get it shipped as a present (purchased in the US) then I don't think they can apply the taxes.

Saying that though, the tax man is the last person you want on your back.
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: dave_mc on May 04, 2011, 03:33:01 PM
^ eric pickles is the last person i'd want on my back...
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: gwEm on May 04, 2011, 04:01:59 PM
Not that I'm suggesting it's a good idea, but if you get it shipped as a present (purchased in the US) then I don't think they can apply the taxes.

Saying that though, the tax man is the last person you want on your back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UehA20xWY5A
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Davey on May 04, 2011, 04:53:47 PM
Not that I'm suggesting it's a good idea, but if you get it shipped as a present (purchased in the US) then I don't think they can apply the taxes.

Saying that though, the tax man is the last person you want on your back.
you have to pay duty + VAT, which combined for slovenia is 23.7%

A guitar is considered (some random numbers here, meaning the type of goods) etc etc, so for guitars, NEW or USED a 3.7% importing duty is added ..

thing is, if it was only duty and vat on top of the price of the guitar, it would be ok-ish.. i have to pay all of that on top of the shipping as well.

Also, i got things sent from the US labeled as gifts.. Boss stuff, gadgets, motherboards.. had to pay 5% duty and tax..

only way to kind of circumvent it, going the 'legal' way, is to have the guitar priced reeeeeeeeally low
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: HairyChris on May 05, 2011, 11:50:18 AM
Sounds like a similar arrangement to the UK. VAT + Import duty.

I ordered an Agile direct from Rondo as they are the only supplier (if I remember rightly Agile guitars are made to the specification of the guys at Rondo). I'm also fairly sure that they ship with full value on the forms, unlike some other suppliers.
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Transcend on May 05, 2011, 04:50:07 PM
Just to let you guys know on duty etc

i just got a set of transformers + choke through that cost £301 from the US that was marked at full value with no duty just £23 VAT & handling
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Philly Q on May 05, 2011, 05:47:53 PM
i just got a set of transformers + choke through that cost £301 from the US that was marked at full value with no duty just £23 VAT & handling

That's just sheer good luck!
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Transcend on May 05, 2011, 06:16:05 PM
i just got a set of transformers + choke through that cost £301 from the US that was marked at full value with no duty just £23 VAT & handling

That's just sheer good luck!

Tell me about it.

a package i got a few months back that was of £90 value i got hit with a £30 duty charge then vat & handling.

Guess it depends entirely on the mood of whoever processes it on the day it gets in
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Philly Q on May 05, 2011, 09:21:08 PM
It's also annoying when it's something like a Blu-ray which only cost $20 or $30 and they hit you with VAT plus an £8 admin fee. 

If it's a mistake, I write to Customs and claim back the VAT, but trying to get the admin fee back from Royal Mail is more trouble than it's worth.
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Transcend on May 05, 2011, 09:22:23 PM
It's also annoying when it's something like a Blu-ray which only cost $20 or $30 and they hit you with VAT plus an £8 admin fee. 

If it's a mistake, I write to Customs and claim back the VAT, but trying to get the admin fee back from Royal Mail is more trouble than it's worth.

I agree entirely. Royal mail aren't worth the effort unless its a massive amount of money. I generally try to avoid them where possible
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: ToneMonkey on May 05, 2011, 11:05:59 PM
Not that I'm suggesting it's a good idea, but if you get it shipped as a present (purchased in the US) then I don't think they can apply the taxes.

Saying that though, the tax man is the last person you want on your back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UehA20xWY5A

That's cool man.
Title: Re: Where to get Agiles in Europe?
Post by: Davey on May 06, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
oh yeah, you reminded me, there's also the postage from customs to me :D which can be quite a lot