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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Transcend on June 13, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2NJ_b2RUcI&feature=player_embedded#at=215
Now these are utterly ridiculous and some really cr@ppy logos
From the offset you can clearly tell who is going to win though
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:lol: That's pretty good.
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BM logos are utterly ridiculous - whats the point of a logo at all if you can't read it? (wtf!!!!) :?
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I perhaps unsurprisingly knew them all, though Prosanctus Inferi I only ever heard of by way of a "Daft metal band logos" thread.
I actually think most of them are pretty readable, bar Leviathan and Prosanctus Inferi. But then maybe I'm just used to such logos.
I think the BM ones in there are clear and artistic, mind. Bornagar and Emperor have smashing logos. Christophe Szpajdel is a great artist.
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BM logos are utterly ridiculous - whats the point of a logo at all if you can't read it? (wtf!!!!) :?
If they are not "pure" blackmetal then they are sell outs!!! Reference: Random moaning immature teenagers on internet on band forums with too much time to themselves
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And I bet they all have lots of pointless widdling solos that no-one can hear because the mids are scooped to f***.
:)
I still can only see the 'tus' in prosanctus inferi or whatever that one was meant to be, and that's after reading what it's meant to be.... Pointless.
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And I bet they all have lots of pointless widdling solos that no-one can hear because the mids are scooped to f***.
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I still can only see the 'tus' in prosanctus inferi or whatever that one was meant to be, and that's after reading what it's meant to be.... Pointless.
Roo, its clear you simply don't understand metal. Why not get a nice Telecaster and play some Wings covers?
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I actually think most of them are pretty readable, bar Leviathan and Prosanctus Inferi. But then maybe I'm just used to such logos.
^ This. The last two are completely illegible.
I do like the Borknagar logo (although I'd probably have had trouble reading it too if I hadn't heard of them)
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And I bet they all have lots of pointless widdling solos that no-one can hear because the mids are scooped to f***.
To me, a proper black metal guitar tone is not about scooped mids. And it's never been about endless solos.
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And I bet they all have lots of pointless widdling solos that no-one can hear because the mids are scooped to f***.
To me, a proper black metal guitar tone is not about scooped mids. And it's never been about endless solos.
I must confess to neither knowing, nor giving one solitary sh!t about these mostly arbitrary, and utterly pointless sub-sub-sub-genre classifications that metal fans/bands seem to have arrived at. Great way to make sure your audience is as small as possible.
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I must confess to neither knowing, nor giving one solitary sh!t about these mostly arbitrary, and utterly pointless sub-sub-sub-genre classifications that metal fans/bands seem to have arrived at. Great way to make sure your audience is as small as possible.
+1 - well said...
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1 Slayer
2 Severed Savior
3 Emperor
4 Venom
5 Bahamas
6 Defeated Sanity/defcating santa - Venomous Candle
8 Borknagar(bork bork bork said the swedish chef)
9 Nachtmystium
9 Leviathan
10 WTF?? Prosanctus Inferi
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I must confess to neither knowing, nor giving one solitary sh!t about these mostly arbitrary, and utterly pointless sub-sub-sub-genre classifications that metal fans/bands seem to have arrived at. Great way to make sure your audience is as small as possible.
+1 - well said...
But black metal is hardly "sub-sub-sub". It's a hugely varied scene (or certainly far more so than the other big extreme-metal subgenres of thrash, death metal and doom) and its "trademarks" as you described only really exist in a tiny handful of its adherents.
I don't see the need for descriptors like "progressive-blackened-dark-ambient" (which I HAVE seen), but I don't get people's aversions to names for large and pretty loose genres to give people a ballpark idea of what something will sound like. Otherwise recommending bands would be a total pain in the arse and writing reviews would be near impossible.
I mean, essentially what you've done is made an remark about perceived hallmarks of a genre, which are incorrect, had that challenged then reacted with "I'd rather be ignorant of what constitutes a genre 'cause then it's easier to make disparaging quips"! :lol:
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ZERE WILL BE ORDNUNG IN MEIN GENRE-CLASSIFICATION!!! :lol:
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But black metal is hardly "sub-sub-sub".
I must admit, I thought exactly the same on first reading Roo's post.
I'm not at all into pigeonholing bands into all these silly little sub-genres, but "black metal" is a pretty broad term which has been around for a very long time.
Having said that, I wouldn't have a clue how to "define" it, and I wouldn't be confident of naming many bands who play it - beyond Venom and Bathory (I'll probably get lambasted now for mentioning even those two!)
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Haven't we had this discussion before?
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Yeah, but this time we're taking the scenic route.
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Having said that, I wouldn't have a clue how to "define" it,
From what i have heard which admittedly isnt much
the terribly trebley & shrill overly distorted & lacking in bass & mids guitar tone is how i would define it.
but as i said i havent heard much but everything i have heard had that same tone that wasnt pleasant on the ears
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Having said that, I wouldn't have a clue how to "define" it,
From what i have heard which admittedly isnt much
the terribly trebley & shrill overly distorted & lacking in bass & mids guitar tone is how i would define it.
but as i said i havent heard much but everything i have heard had that same tone that wasnt pleasant on the ears
It's atmosphere that defines it more than anything. Some REALLY musically disparate stuff all falls under black metal.
But we digress.
Here are a couple corkers from around the UK.
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/I/Ingested/pics/logo.jpg)
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/C/Crepitation/pics/520405_logo.jpg)
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/D/Detrimentum/pics/logo.jpg)
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i cant read a single one of those.
The first one looks like incested or something though.
the second looks like a lot of though got put into it but i cant make a single thing out
and the last on first look i thought i saw something like karmen.... but now that i look again i cant see a thing
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i cant read a single one of those.
The first one looks like incested or something though.
the second looks like a lot of though got put into it but i cant make a single thing out
and the last on first look i thought i saw something like karmen.... but now that i look again i cant see a thing
Close :) Its ingested
Second is Crepitation.
I dont know the last one.
Now.. Listen to this instead!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDWdTcgMCSg&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDWdTcgMCSg&feature=channel_video_title)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jEV5HwiYI0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jEV5HwiYI0)
Imho UK's best death metal band
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Im just listening to the first one currently
it started off so well but has just gone very naff mainly due to the very uninspired drumming and that ascending/descending lick
other than that i could actually listen this.
The tone isnt destroying my ear drums either but still isnt to my taste.
Other than the lead tone i quite enjoyed that.
and towards the end it just sounds like the drummer is having an epileptic fit.
The worst part for me was the drums by far.. usually its the vocals on this sorta stuff.
Now onto the second
actually no i cant listen this one the drumming is too bad
I think i will stick to necrophagist for my bad vocals band!
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Here are a couple corkers from around the UK.
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/I/Ingested/pics/logo.jpg)
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/C/Crepitation/pics/520405_logo.jpg)
(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/D/Detrimentum/pics/logo.jpg)
Holy shite, those are incomprehensible.
I thought the first one said "Incested". Second one, no idea.
Is the third one "Tormentum"?
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Detrimentum?
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Affirmative!
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(http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/les%20goupes/C/Crepitation/pics/520405_logo.jpg)
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Though there arent any letters or words or anything in that. Apparently it says Crepitation. There is no C, r, e, p, i, t, a, o or n in it, no matter what anyone says.
Edit - ingested and detrimentum I can see, I think, now that I know thats apparently what they are.
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Crepitation are one of the willfully ultra-underground bands (to the point one of them lambasts my festival for booking "mainstream" acts (like Carcass) so the whole point is that it's illegible and people think it's absurd and are put off.
They aren't very good, either. But a couple of the guys that have been in them have been in decent enough bands.
Funnily enough, these slam death bands with preposterous logos are some of the types of bands you could probably do well for yourself recording, Mark.
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Im just listening to the first one currently
it started off so well but has just gone very naff mainly due to the very uninspired drumming and that ascending/descending lick
other than that i could actually listen this.
The tone isnt destroying my ear drums either but still isnt to my taste.
Other than the lead tone i quite enjoyed that.
and towards the end it just sounds like the drummer is having an epileptic fit.
The worst part for me was the drums by far.. usually its the vocals on this sorta stuff.
Now onto the second
actually no i cant listen this one the drumming is too bad
I think i will stick to necrophagist for my bad vocals band!
Its all a matter of taste :P Necrophagist does not do me any good. Its too sterile :P
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Im just listening to the first one currently
it started off so well but has just gone very naff mainly due to the very uninspired drumming and that ascending/descending lick
other than that i could actually listen this.
The tone isnt destroying my ear drums either but still isnt to my taste.
Other than the lead tone i quite enjoyed that.
and towards the end it just sounds like the drummer is having an epileptic fit.
The worst part for me was the drums by far.. usually its the vocals on this sorta stuff.
Now onto the second
actually no i cant listen this one the drumming is too bad
I think i will stick to necrophagist for my bad vocals band!
Its all a matter of taste :P Necrophagist does not do me any good. Its too sterile :P
For me its just an impressive feat to be that tight.
I personally dislike the music other than the solo sections where it becomes 'normal music'
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Crepitation are one of the willfully ultra-underground bands (to the point one of them lambasts my festival for booking "mainstream" acts (like Carcass) so the whole point is that it's illegible and people think it's absurd and are put off.
They aren't very good, either. But a couple of the guys that have been in them have been in decent enough bands.
Funnily enough, these slam death bands with preposterous logos are some of the types of bands you could probably do well for yourself recording, Mark.
I cant get my head around that. It all seems to be a little game to distinguish the true hardcore elite from the mainstream fakes by seeing if they know what the logo says, all in the name of having fewer fans. Nothing wrong with having fans, surely?
And I'd like to record em too. My current project is rock and my next several are acoustic/solo singery stuffs; at this rate, aside from it looking like I'll be mixing a certain mutual friend/online aquantances band (that shall remain nameless publically till its certain; just seems crass to blab), which I'm very much looking forward to, if I want to do any metal I'm gonna have to play it :lol:
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Broadly speaking, I tend to think of higher-pitched vocals in metal as being 'black' and lower pitched grunting being 'death'. This is painting with huge strokes, but it's pretty close to the mark most times (cue for someone to post a link to a band that disproves this, like I care).
actually, I'll do it myself... Archgoat, I would call them a black metal band, yet their vocals are low.
my head is starting to hurt over-analysing this :lol:
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It has more to do with just vocals. Death's Vocals were also pretty high pitched.
It has something to do with the feel of the music, and not just how low they tune or how high pitched their vocals are.
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I could swear there was a really dark grey but not quite black - think more midnight blue - metal band called Mÿ Arße.
Their latest release
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZGFODm-q8NY/SGwCG7BTbUI/AAAAAAAAAqE/J-7kof162Uc/s320/Dogs_Arse.jpg)
That or I may have been drinking!