I must confess to neither knowing, nor giving one solitary sh!t about these mostly arbitrary, and utterly pointless sub-sub-sub-genre classifications that metal fans/bands seem to have arrived at. Great way to make sure your audience is as small as possible.
+1 - well said...
But black metal is hardly "sub-sub-sub". It's a hugely varied scene (or certainly far more so than the other big extreme-metal subgenres of thrash, death metal and doom) and its "trademarks" as you described only really exist in a tiny handful of its adherents.
I don't see the need for descriptors like "progressive-blackened-dark-ambient" (which I HAVE seen), but I don't get people's aversions to names for large and pretty loose genres to give people a ballpark idea of what something will sound like. Otherwise recommending bands would be a total pain in the a
rse and writing reviews would be near impossible.
I mean, essentially what you've done is made an remark about perceived hallmarks of a genre, which are incorrect, had that challenged then reacted with "I'd rather be ignorant of what constitutes a genre 'cause then it's easier to make disparaging quips"! :lol: