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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: WezV on June 26, 2011, 10:25:13 AM

Title: I made a mess :D
Post by: WezV on June 26, 2011, 10:25:13 AM
you all know i like to piss about on occasion - this is one of those times!

i decided i wanted to try swirling a guitar so did some research, watched some vids and got a general feel for the process

after a few test pieces i started to think i was ready to try a guitar.  in hindsight - more practice may have been needed ;)

so first i did a test guitar, its something i made a long time ago, butchered a few times and left in the corner

the results are a very piss poor swirl - but i cant decide if i actually like it or not.  basically i had issues with thickness and amount of paint on this one and it glooped and ran, looking like a bloody mess with a bit of a swirl appearing near the top
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/sw3.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/sw4.jpg)

...

anyway, after thinning the red a bit and using less of it i had another go on a copper leafed guitar. this time i still had the odd gloopy spot, but also really struggled to get the water droplets of the guitar so its a bit speckly in places, but much closer to the look i was after so i reckon this one could be good once its cleared and all buffed up.  with the copper leaf changing colour in different light is looks pretty interesting
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/sw2.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/sw1.jpg)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/new/sw5.jpg)

so yeah, not awesome results yet - but enough to make me try again at some point and it was fun doing it
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: ToneMonkey on June 26, 2011, 10:52:35 AM
That second one is quite nice....... which is good because the first one is bloody awful  :lol:

What sort of state did you leave the bath in?
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: WezV on June 26, 2011, 10:59:48 AM
looking like someone had slit their wrists in it ;)


nah, i used a large bin - outside!
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: ToneMonkey on June 26, 2011, 11:17:31 AM
You know when you have a nose bleed and stuff a bit of bog roll up your nostril.  The first one looks a bit like the bog roll when you pull it out  :lol:

The second one is really growing on me.  Reminds me of Isle of Wight Glass.
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: Brow on June 26, 2011, 12:29:04 PM
The 1st 1 would go well for someone in a zombie/horror punk band or something  :lol:

I really like the 2nd 1 though, would look ace with a lighter coloured scratchplate on it imo  :D
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: d1dsj on June 26, 2011, 12:41:15 PM
I like both, but the first one would tempt me to bite or lick it... it reminds me of a raspberry ripple! The second one looks pretty badass to me.
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: dave_mc on June 26, 2011, 01:00:25 PM
that's pretty good for the first couple of tries, i'd have thought. :)
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: WezV on June 26, 2011, 01:29:33 PM
that's pretty good for the first couple of tries, i'd have thought. :)

well i am happy with the actual results - but not happy with them as 'swirls'.  loads of great examples of the process on youtube... but i guess it all comes down to getting the feel for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-QzJxVXb8k&feature=player_embedded
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Post by: choucas09 on June 26, 2011, 01:38:07 PM
I actually think the 1st one looks good. It looks like marble.
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Post by: gwEm on June 26, 2011, 01:50:11 PM
i must admit, the first one has its charms
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: Mr. Air on June 26, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
The first one is surely the coolest looking in my eyes. I really like it. Great job  :D
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: JacksonRR on June 26, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
The first one is surely the coolest looking in my eyes. I really like it. Great job  :D

I like the first one the best, too. I do get the impression it might yell at me and make me clean the house for no reason for a few days every month.  :wink:
It's always fun to just give things a try with no expectations. Looks like fun.
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Post by: MrBump on June 26, 2011, 02:56:04 PM
I like the first one too - it's raspberry ripple!
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: Oroficus on June 26, 2011, 04:54:48 PM
I like them both, but if I had to choose I think it would have to be the first one, for it reminds me of a good acid trip.
Who cares if the back is a bit gloopy, nobody's going to see it or pay attention to it if you ever mean to put that guitar to work on stage.
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: Philly Q on June 26, 2011, 05:15:38 PM
I'd like them better if they weren't red!  The "spilled blood" thing doesn't appeal to me at all.
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: dave_mc on June 26, 2011, 11:14:31 PM
that's pretty good for the first couple of tries, i'd have thought. :)

well i am happy with the actual results - but not happy with them as 'swirls'.  loads of great examples of the process on youtube... but i guess it all comes down to getting the feel for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-QzJxVXb8k&feature=player_embedded

ah yeah i see what you mean- they look good but aren't necessarily swirls, kind of thing.

i think i like the first one best too. but i agree with philly, i'm not that fond of the red/white look. you need more crazy colours, like blues, yellows, oranges, pinks and greens :D
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: Philly Q on June 27, 2011, 01:45:16 AM
well i am happy with the actual results - but not happy with them as 'swirls'.  loads of great examples of the process on youtube... but i guess it all comes down to getting the feel for it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-QzJxVXb8k&feature=player_embedded


I only just got round to watching that clip - very impressive!  From just some coloured paint floating on water, it's almost miraculous how well it turns out!  :D

Does that guy sell bodies on eBay?  I'm sure I've seen some very similar.
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: gwEm on June 27, 2011, 09:56:58 AM
(http://flying-v.ch/customs/swirl/fc_83swirlf.JPG) (http://flying-v.ch/customs/swirl/fc_83swirlb.JPG)
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: Philly Q on June 27, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
^  Wow!  I'm actually starting to get into this swirling lark.  :oops:
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Post by: dave_mc on June 27, 2011, 12:34:05 PM
yeah i definitely like them on the right style of guitar. I wouldn't want one on vintage telecaster, say, but on an 80s superstrat or the like they look badass.

out of this swirled has a bunch on its site.
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: WezV on June 27, 2011, 05:16:29 PM
i think the colours make a difference too... obviously multi neons takes you straight down the vai route.  i like simpler schemes.

love the outofthisswirled site, they are so bloody perfect!
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: Philly Q on June 27, 2011, 05:27:19 PM
love the outofthisswirled sight, they are so bloody perfect!

Just been checking it out - the amount of control they manage to exercise over such a seemingly random process is amazing!  :D

I'd like to see it on a few more non-Ibanez guitars.  I love the way the patterns go right up the neck and headstock on the V gwEm posted.
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: gwEm on June 27, 2011, 05:28:18 PM
i've posted this before, and I still think its wicked:

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o216/epilpspecial2/sexyfinger_v2.jpg)
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: WezV on June 27, 2011, 05:35:49 PM
 I love the way the patterns go right up the neck and headstock on the V gwEm posted.

hard to see on that if it was done at the same time.  i suspect neck and body were dipped seperately - you need a bloody big tub to dunk a full guitar.. nice though, when you see a through neck thats been done
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: AndyR on June 27, 2011, 05:54:55 PM
Call me an old-fashioned luddite, but... :lol:

The later ones getting posted, that some of you guys seem to like, do not grab me at all.

I do have a sneaking regard for your first attempt Wez - kinda raspberry ripple :D. Second one, should grab me more, because I like the colours involved, but... er, not for me :lol:
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: gwEm on June 27, 2011, 05:57:27 PM
Call me an old-fashioned luddite, but... :lol:

pfft, things have moved on since the 70s Andy.. these are the 1980s now, get with the programme! ;) ;)
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: AndyR on June 27, 2011, 06:00:39 PM
Whaddya mean 70s? I haven't even got out of the 60s yet :lol:
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 27, 2011, 08:03:37 PM
Very cool how it's done!!
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: WezV on June 27, 2011, 08:06:02 PM
Very cool how it's done!!

see the vid i linked to for a proper example

basically a large container full of water and borax to break the surface tension (i think I may have needed a little more of this), then you pour oil based enamel paint onto the water and swirl it about a bit.  slowly dunk the guitar
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 27, 2011, 08:21:58 PM
Very cool how it's done!!

see the vid i linked to for a proper example

basically a large container full of water and borax to break the surface tension (i think I may have needed a little more of this), then you pour oil based enamel paint onto the water and swirl it about a bit.  slowly dunk the guitar

I saw it, just as I said, it's really cool as it's done... I had no idea before this video
Title: Re: I made a mess :D
Post by: WezV on June 27, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
lol, i read it as

"very cool, hows it done?"
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Post by: Telerocker on June 27, 2011, 11:36:50 PM
If done on a modern metalplank, I like swirl. Def. not on vintagestyle guitars.
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Post by: HTH AMPS on June 29, 2011, 05:39:20 PM
I tried swirling some effects pedal cases too - got the borax, enamel paint, water at the right temp, followed the 'how to' online and it came out a mess.  I think there's a real trial and error process till you find what works for you.