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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Sancho on July 29, 2011, 12:08:34 PM

Title: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on July 29, 2011, 12:08:34 PM
I have a Taxi Yellow Charvel San Dimas.
No issues with the JB/59 that are in there, but I have that combo on a couple of guitars and I'd like to diversify a bit.
I suppose the VHII is just what the doctor ordered for early 80s L.A. style? Think George Lynch, Warren Dimartini and obviously Eddy.
My playing doesn't even come close, but that's no reason why my sound shouldn't :D
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Telerocker on July 29, 2011, 11:38:49 PM
Just had a VHII/Mother's Milk installed in ash strat. It's really punchy and overtones jump out when you dig in. It cleans up good too. It's only 9k, but it has balls.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Denim n Leather on July 30, 2011, 09:14:31 PM
You didn't mention what amp you own, so I'm assuming it's a Marshall or Marshall-inspired amp.

Cold Sweat would be a better combo for what you are doing.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on July 31, 2011, 10:13:43 AM
My amps are Marshalls, yeah.
Guitar>Maxon OD9>assorted effects>Marshall 2203X/DSL100.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Nolly on July 31, 2011, 10:16:04 AM
I think they'd be great for what you after. I have a set of VHIIs in a Kramer and it definitely delivers the 80s hard rock and metal tones in spades.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Denim n Leather on July 31, 2011, 01:52:45 PM
I think they'd be great for what you after. I have a set of VHIIs in a Kramer and it definitely delivers the 80s hard rock and metal tones in spades.
I'm not doubting that as I have a VHII also, but Lynch and DeMartini in particular? I find the VHII is better suited for NWOBHM tones, while the Cold Sweat or Miracle Man is better for the LA metal sound.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Nolly on July 31, 2011, 02:44:11 PM
I reckon I can get a pretty decent Lynch tone with the VHII, have never really tried copping a DeMartini sound. Agreed on the CS or MM being suitable, but I feel like the VHII splits the difference between the EVH and Lynch tone pretty darn well.
Another contender could be the Rebel Yell - definitely not worth discounting!
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on July 31, 2011, 05:34:19 PM
The Rebel Yell has been a contender for a spot in a Les Paul for a while now. Too many pickups, not enough guitars :D
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Denim n Leather on July 31, 2011, 05:50:41 PM
Too many pickups, not enough guitars :D
That, my friend, is an understatement.

I love the RY for single-guitar style arena rock, but not really for metal. It has a lot of everything, frequency-wise, and for metal I'm looking for more focus.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on July 31, 2011, 05:56:26 PM
The music I play is mostly old school. Hard rock in the vein of Y&T and Whitesnake, metal in the style of Grand Magus or Candlemass, and I have decided to finally have a go at copping some EVH tricks.
I firmly believe that you don't need a dedicated set up to cover all nuances, but I like the idea of having a couple of guitars that have a specific application...
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Denim n Leather on July 31, 2011, 06:38:33 PM
Ultimately, you are your tone. The gear can help bridge the gap between the tone you hear in your head and what the outside world hears, but ultimately it doesn't matter much. You will always sound like 'you'.

Whitesnake = John Sykes = Cold Sweat

Whatever you decide I'm sure it'll sound great.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on July 31, 2011, 07:23:18 PM
Whitesnake = John Sykes = Cold Sweat
Hmmm, to me, Whitesnake is Bernie Marsden and Micky Moody... :wink:
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Denim n Leather on July 31, 2011, 08:26:16 PM
Whitesnake = John Sykes = Cold Sweat
Hmmm, to me, Whitesnake is Bernie Marsden and Micky Moody... :wink:
Picky, picky! :)
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: darkbluemurder on August 01, 2011, 08:24:10 AM
Whitesnake = John Sykes = Cold Sweat
Hmmm, to me, Whitesnake is Bernie Marsden and Micky Moody... :wink:

I believe Micky Moody used a Gold Top LP with a DiMarzio Super Distortion as his main guitar plus slightly modified Marshall amps for more bottom end.

But for Lynch, Ratt and early VH I think VII or Cold Sweat are good recommendations. My current favorite guitar has a Cold Sweat set, and in particular the bridge pickup delivers everything needed for blistering hard rock riffs and leads.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 02, 2011, 10:52:10 AM
My current favorite guitar has a Cold Sweat set, and in particular the bridge pickup delivers everything needed for blistering hard rock riffs and leads.
What kind of guitar are we talking about here?
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: darkbluemurder on August 02, 2011, 01:19:53 PM
My current favorite guitar has a Cold Sweat set, and in particular the bridge pickup delivers everything needed for blistering hard rock riffs and leads.
What kind of guitar are we talking about here?

It is a guitar built by a local luthier. Mahogany body, arched flamed maple top (like Les Paul), mahogany neck with rosewood fretboard. Jackson Soloist type body shape, 25 1/2 scale, tune-o-matic w/ stop-tailpiece. Two humbuckers, one volume, one tone and a three-way toggle switch. It's a very big and loud souding guitar in which I had a lot of pickups already. The Cold Sweat stays however. The next best (a very close second) bridge pickup was the Miracle Man. The other pickups weren't BKPs.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 02, 2011, 01:28:51 PM
OK, so it's a bit more like a Les Paul than a Charvel.
cr@p, now you've got me reconsidering the Emeralds I wanted to put in my Les Paul :wallbash:
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on August 02, 2011, 05:15:48 PM
Whitesnake = John Sykes = Cold Sweat
Hmmm, to me, Whitesnake is Bernie Marsden and Micky Moody... :wink:
Picky, picky! :)

Damn yanks always favour Sykes (and sadly Vai  PDT_031) in Whitesnake over Moody Marsden....... :lol:

For real Lynch and Ratt tones I would also say Miracle Man or Cold Sweat , however you describe a broader spectrum of players (and much of my CD collection) . I would say that VH2 will be great for what you need.

Dave Meniketti is a tone god!
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Madsakre on August 02, 2011, 05:21:33 PM
Go for this tone dude xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYQtnq2dFw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYQtnq2dFw)

Best band ever. too bad i never saw them with messiah :(
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 02, 2011, 05:25:16 PM
Well, that settles it. VHII's 'twill be.
Now for the next dilemma : what to buy first? The VHII for the Charvel, or the Emeralds for the Les Paul :stupid:

Dave Meniketti is a tone god!
Dave Meniketti has the most awesome classic hard rock tone known to man :)
I always assumed he would be a classic Marshall guy, but every time I've seen him live, he's used a Mesa Boogie Rectifier.
Unfortunately I didn't have the chance to talk to him when we opened for them.

Damn yanks always favour Sykes (and sadly Vai  PDT_031) in Whitesnake over Moody Marsden....... :lol:
Frustrating, isn't it?
As much as I love Sykes, I'd take Aldrich's tone over his these days.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 02, 2011, 05:27:59 PM
Go for this tone dude xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYQtnq2dFw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMYQtnq2dFw)

Best band ever. too bad i never saw them with messiah :(
Well mate, I've seen them twice with Messiah :D
And it was every bit as good as you think.

I really don't need someone feeding my GAS... I've been thinking about getting a red Charvel SoCal and replace the pickguard with a one HB one in honour of Lars Johansson as is :wink:
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Madsakre on August 02, 2011, 06:18:55 PM
pickguards are not that expensive xD just get one. Then throw a suiting bare knuckle in the bridge, and be awesome
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 02, 2011, 06:37:13 PM
pickguards are not that expensive xD just get one. Then throw a suiting bare knuckle in the bridge, and be awesome
Well, I've already got this one, only it has a Duncan Custom Custom (which I quite like) :
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/YellowSoCal/Guitars/CharvelSoCal2Small.jpg)
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Madsakre on August 02, 2011, 07:10:39 PM
okay xD cant see how you can gas over something you already have xD
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 02, 2011, 07:15:00 PM
She's not red, is she?
 :D
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Madsakre on August 02, 2011, 09:11:24 PM
Oh you are right xD

I run around dreaming of a White V too ^^
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: darkbluemurder on August 03, 2011, 08:39:49 AM
Damn yanks always favour Sykes (and sadly Vai  PDT_031) in Whitesnake over Moody Marsden....... :lol:

Moody/Marsden is the classic Whitesnake combination - largely blues based, very melodic and a lot of slide playing, typical for 70s.

I saw Whitesnake live twice. Once with Vai/Vandenberg, and I was a bit disappointed. As great a guitarist Vai is I felt the constant showcase of technical chops was not the best fit for the band. Didn't really hear much of Vandenberg in that show. I regard Vai rather as a single guitar player and not the model dual guitar player.

A few years ago I saw them with Aldrich/Beach and I thought they are a killer combination. To me it is the best fusion of 70s blues based rock and 80s hair metal. Both are excellent individual players, yet they work well as a guitar team.

Sykes on the other hand is like Gary Moore a single guitar player - no wonder there is no other guitarist on 1987 (except for that one solo Vandenberg played).

BTW: which band was Dave Meniketti in - never heard of him?

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 03, 2011, 09:40:50 AM
I saw Whitesnake live twice. Once with Vai/Vandenberg, and I was a bit disappointed. As great a guitarist Vai is I felt the constant showcase of technical chops was not the best fit for the band.
A few years ago I saw them with Aldrich/Beach and I thought they are a killer combination. To me it is the best fusion of 70s blues based rock and 80s hair metal. Both are excellent individual players, yet they work well as a guitar team.
I totally agree on both counts.

BTW: which band was Dave Meniketti in - never heard of him?
Y&T. Criminally underrated band.
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: Sancho on August 03, 2011, 10:11:25 AM
And another question : covered or uncovered?
I love BKP's black covered pickups, and I think it would look awesome in this particular guitar. But Ben has told me it would alter the tone ever so subtly...
Title: Re: VHII set for a Charvel?
Post by: gwEm on August 03, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
I love the RY for single-guitar style arena rock

best description i've read of the rebel yell. it sounds huge in the right les paul..