Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Crunch on August 04, 2011, 10:45:12 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZGh1xNZE5k&feature=channel_video_title
I'd really like to know who signed this doucher to be their demo guy. Everything he touches, he turns boring and sterile. Watching any more than 2 videos of this guy, in a row, will make you want to put a bullet through your face every time he uses the phrase "and it sounds great."
Compare that to the ProGuitarShop demo of the TH30 (same gain stage as the Dark Terror).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Akwf5sLk-o
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the TH30 sounds better than the Dark Terror in those demos. Have you seen schems of the two?
I was just wondering how the power switching worked in the two, if it was doing pentode/triode switching, but they ain't, which is good.
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I have an original Tiny Terror schematic laying around. Pretty simple.
Orange claims that the Dark Terror has an identical gain stage to the TH30's dirty channel.
I've played both of them, and the Dark Terror has a slightly more boring power stage, as the transformers are cheap.
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Found it.
http://i.imgur.com/7VDmq.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/7VDmq.jpg)
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ive seen the original tiny terror schem. ive not seen the TH30 one. I wondered if the Dark Terror might have been along the same lines as the Phaez Daisycutter. Using a cathodyne PI to free up a preamp triode to be used to add gain. Older bigger oranges had cathodynes, so i thought it might be possible. I wonder how well the loop works. I thought a lot of the gain tone came from the EL84's getting pushed, at least in the original tiny terror. So a loop before the output stage might not be ideal, depending on what someone is using the amp for. Can't really add a loop after the output though. I know the gain and loop were added according to customer request. The transformers might be cheap but they should be ok. I know the head Tech at orange pays attention to what goes into those amps, it's not just some bean counter.
I wouldn't be surprised if the output transformer from a Dark Terror is the same size as a Mesa Single Recto OT.
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Found it.
http://i.imgur.com/7VDmq.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/7VDmq.jpg)
cheers for that. not seen this for a while.
interesting use of a cross-line frequency cut for the tone control.
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Haven't been able to find a TH30 schem. They're too new, I think.
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I watched the Doug Doppler clip and didn't think it was that bad.... but good lord, that TH30 demo sounds great. :o
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That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL.
The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.
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That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL.
The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.
:lol: I dare to comment on an amp thread for once.... and get it arse over tit again!
Oh well, they're only YouTube clips, eh?
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The TH30 does sound great in real, too. I am still very tempted for real low volume playing. Great little amp indeed!!
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I have an original Tiny Terror schematic laying around. Pretty simple.
Orange claims that the Dark Terror has an identical gain stage to the TH30's dirty channel.
I've played both of them, and the Dark Terror has a slightly more boring power stage, as the transformers are cheap.
Where did you get to try a dark terror? I don't know any store that has one yet. At least not in the US.
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That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL.
The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.
:lol: I dare to comment on an amp thread for once.... and get it arse over tit again!
Oh well, they're only YouTube clips, eh?
Blame your speakers :lol:
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That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL.
The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.
:lol: I dare to comment on an amp thread for once.... and get it arse over tit again!
Oh well, they're only YouTube clips, eh?
Blame your speakers :lol:
Worse... headphones.
Yeah, it was the headphones..... :oops: :| :lol:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZGh1xNZE5k&feature=channel_video_title
I'd really like to know who signed this doucher to be their demo guy. Everything he touches, he turns boring and sterile. Watching any more than 2 videos of this guy, in a row, will make you want to put a bullet through your face every time he uses the phrase "and it sounds great."
Compare that to the ProGuitarShop demo of the TH30 (same gain stage as the Dark Terror).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Akwf5sLk-o
They should have got Phil X to review it :lol:
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tried th30 and sound great
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tried th30 and sound great
My experience too :)
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also after vid now sat here playing ariels
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZGh1xNZE5k&feature=channel_video_title
I'd really like to know who signed this doucher to be their demo guy. Everything he touches, he turns boring and sterile. Watching any more than 2 videos of this guy, in a row, will make you want to put a bullet through your face every time he uses the phrase "and it sounds great."
Compare that to the ProGuitarShop demo of the TH30 (same gain stage as the Dark Terror).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Akwf5sLk-o
They should have got Phil X to review it :lol:
"WHOAH.....Yeah!!!......Phil X, baby!......(mumble mumble Bon Jovi mumble).....Heh Heh Heh!......Dark TERRRRRORRRR!!!!!"
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I have an original Tiny Terror schematic laying around. Pretty simple.
Orange claims that the Dark Terror has an identical gain stage to the TH30's dirty channel.
I've played both of them, and the Dark Terror has a slightly more boring power stage, as the transformers are cheap.
Where did you get to try a dark terror? I don't know any store that has one yet. At least not in the US.
My mate knows a guy in Phillie that has a music shop. He collects Oranges as a hobby. Somehow, wound up with one.
He's a shady dude, so I didn't ask how.
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I thought that vid was fine actually-want a shocker-check out 'whammy'!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn9XEZ_Rcas
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That TH30 sounds really constricted in the midrange, not fond AT ALL.
The Dark Terror sounded way more musical.
:lol: I dare to comment on an amp thread for once.... and get it arse over tit again!
Oh well, they're only YouTube clips, eh?
everyone is entitled to an opinion, there is no right or wrong 8)
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Yeah, but I'd trust your opinion about an amp over mine any day! :lol:
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Yeah, but I'd trust your opinion about an amp over mine any day! :lol:
I think you should sell all your amps and buy loads of mine :lol:
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Yeah, but I'd trust your opinion about an amp over mine any day! :lol:
I think you should sell all your amps and buy loads of mine :lol:
Ah, my amp collection's feeble, it's nothing like my guitar collection..... I only have a Tiny Terror, 1x12", "Rat" modified Harley Benton GA5, Pod XT and an old, broken Sessionette 75. :lol:
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Yeah, but I'd trust your opinion about an amp over mine any day! :lol:
I think you should sell all your amps and buy loads of mine :lol:
Ah, my amp collection's feeble, it's nothing like my guitar collection..... I only have a Tiny Terror, 1x12", "Rat" modified Harley Benton GA5, Pod XT and an old, broken Sessionette 75. :lol:
Ah, these old Sessionettes were not bad at all for a solid stateamp. :)
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Yeah, but I'd trust your opinion about an amp over mine any day! :lol:
I think you should sell all your amps and buy loads of mine :lol:
Ah, my amp collection's feeble, it's nothing like my guitar collection..... I only have a Tiny Terror, 1x12", "Rat" modified Harley Benton GA5, Pod XT and an old, broken Sessionette 75. :lol:
for shame!!! - you need a nice amp for those guitars.
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Yeah, but I'm only a farting-around-at-home kind of "guitar player". I'll never gig, and I don't want to disturb the neighbours....
It would be nice to have a really good little amp with Power Scaling like a Suhr Badger or Fargen Mini Plex - and there are probably similar amps I've never heard of - but those things are pricey. I don't hesitate to spend money on guitars, but I'm much more reluctant with amps! :roll: :lol:
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Yeah, but I'm only a farting-around-at-home kind of "guitar player". I'll never gig, and I don't want to disturb the neighbours....
It would be nice to have a really good little amp with Power Scaling like a Suhr Badger or Fargen Mini Plex - and there are probably similar amps I've never heard of - but those things are pricey. I don't hesitate to spend money on guitars, but I'm much more reluctant with amps! :roll: :lol:
Philly, I think you like this one, not a bargain but it doesn't break the bank either :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSsPorSlfQg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSsPorSlfQg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67tbb5-ErE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67tbb5-ErE)
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Yeah, but I'm only a farting-around-at-home kind of "guitar player". I'll never gig, and I don't want to disturb the neighbours....
It would be nice to have a really good little amp with Power Scaling like a Suhr Badger or Fargen Mini Plex - and there are probably similar amps I've never heard of - but those things are pricey. I don't hesitate to spend money on guitars, but I'm much more reluctant with amps! :roll: :lol:
Philly, I think you like this one, not a bargain but it doesn't break the bank either :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSsPorSlfQg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSsPorSlfQg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67tbb5-ErE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67tbb5-ErE)
I like it! :D Only four knobs, that's good. The head version is particularly appealing.
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Yeah, but I'm only a farting-around-at-home kind of "guitar player". I'll never gig, and I don't want to disturb the neighbours....
It would be nice to have a really good little amp with Power Scaling like a Suhr Badger or Fargen Mini Plex - and there are probably similar amps I've never heard of - but those things are pricey. I don't hesitate to spend money on guitars, but I'm much more reluctant with amps! :roll: :lol:
Philly, I think you like this one, not a bargain but it doesn't break the bank either :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSsPorSlfQg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSsPorSlfQg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67tbb5-ErE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R67tbb5-ErE)
I like it! :D Only four knobs, that's good. The head version is particularly appealing.
The head does (here in Holland) 777 euro, a stack 998. You don't see them much used, but now and then one comes by on ebay.
www.maxguitarstore.com have them on stock.