Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Alex on August 15, 2011, 07:15:44 PM
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This is from an interview with Matt Heafy from Trivium; for some reason I think this is not the kind of advertisement/statement Gibson had hoped for. :D Mildly amusing.
What guitars did you use?
Gibson Les Paul Customs with EMG 81 and 85 pickups. I think I had about five or six, all with the same pickups, same string gauge, same action, and every single one sounds and plays completely different.
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/trivium-0714-2011/
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Another signature (Epi) with EMG's. Great, just what we were waiting for. :-)
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Another signature (Epi) with EMG's. Great, just what we were waiting for. :-)
My thoughts exactly.. Why do people keep using those things, the EMG's?!
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because emgs are awesome for super tight metal tones
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Another signature (Epi) with EMG's. Great, just what we were waiting for. :-)
My thoughts exactly.. Why do people keep using those things, the EMG's?!
Because of Metallica and Zakk Wylde.
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because emgs are awesome for super tight metal tones
Yeah, I know. But still...
Maybe I'm just jealous because I never could get the damn things to sound decent.
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I think he's pretty much deaf ...
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What guitars did you use?
I think I had about five or six, all with the same pickups, same string gauge, same action, and every single one sounds and plays completely different.
That's the same with all guitars - even from the same batch
Gibson's use of the Plek machine will help with some setup consistency, but nothing will stop pieces of wood bolted or glued together working together differently from other pieces of wood glued or bolted.
I have often seen a cheap brand where the wood of that particular guitar was just great sounding - and it sounded better than a more expensive factory built guitar, and had to convince the player that they should value THAT guitar a bit more and not just be lusting after one with an expensive label on the headstock.
All too often the player who sold their fantastic Squier strat in order to afford a "PROPER" American Fender strat has come back to me upset that the new expensive one lacks something that their cheaper one had.
Other times they got lucky and got a great sounding strat that time too
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What guitars did you use?
Gibson Les Paul Customs with EMG 81 and 85 pickups. I think I had about five or six, all with the same pickups, same string gauge, same action, and every single one sounds and plays completely different.
I don't think that's necessarily bad - he's not saying some were good and some were cr@p, he's saying they had character!
As Jonathan says above, that's what happens when you make things out of wood. It's a long, long way from being an exact science.
(The EMGs are another topic....)
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I like EMGs, they are great for a certain sound. Its all just flavours.
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Am I the only one quite interested? In terms of a decent Epiphone guitar. They've only just started to get good in terms of new models (not the wood, as discussed above)
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if Epi Japan guitars were available in the UK, I wouldn't buy anything else - great value for money.
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if Epi Japan guitars were available in the UK, I wouldn't buy anything else - great value for money.
Yeah, my Fujigen Epiphones are my favourite guitars, I think. Most of the time, anyway. :D
I'm sure the Korean Epis are good too, but I really can't get over the headstock shape (on SGS and LPs, that is) - I absolutely hate it!
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i do agree with jonathan - but i still thing its funny gibson publish this when they have such a bad rep for consistency.
something along the lines of " i can always get the tones i need", "there is always something special about them" or"each one has its own character" may have all worked better from a publicity point of view than "every single one sounds and plays completely different."
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i do agree with jonathan - but i still thing its funny gibson publish this when they have such a bad rep for consistency.
something along the lines of " i can always get the tones i need", "there is always something special about them" or"each one has its own character" may have all worked better from a publicity point of view than "every single one sounds and plays completely different."
that does really confirm what we know already - Gibson's QC is all over the place.
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I'm not saying EMG's are bad pickups, but so many brands have launched low- to mediumbudget guitars with EMG's. Not to speak of Duncan Designed.
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I'm not saying EMG's are bad pickups, but so many brands have launched low- to mediumbudget guitars with EMG's. Not to speak of Duncan Designed.
Its a good way to achieve consistent good sounds.
EMG basically get in bed with all the manufacturers and whore their wares out cheaper than anyone else will.
Then theres the 7 string thing going on the same manufacturers but a different size to 90% of replacement pickups which makes more people end up using EMGs to avoid the hassle of changing them.
It also works the other way though some people refuse to buy them because of the non standard sized pickups
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There is also the fact that pickup choices in new guitars generally boil down to 3 options
Custom pickups from the manufacturer which generally suck
EMG 81/60 81/85
SD JB/59
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Yes, seems so. Maybe once you have BKP's, you are spoiled. For the time being I don't look at Dimarzio's etc.
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I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see manufacturers start selling empty instruments.
The new trend, it seems, is to make the best cheap instrument and gear (I suppose, since no one has money). I've never had a cheap instrument I didn't gut out, at some point.
I'm sure I'm the only one who actually wants this, however, and this would never be marketable.
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I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see manufacturers start selling empty instruments.
The new trend, it seems, is to make the best cheap instrument and gear (I suppose, since no one has money). I've never had a cheap instrument I didn't gut out, at some point.
I'm sure I'm the only one who actually wants this, however, and this would never be marketable.
I don't think it'll ever catch on big-time, but there are some sellers on eBay doing this, albeit usually with used and/or slightly damaged guitars.
I know what you mean, though. A lot of the time I not only replace pickups and electronics, I also change most of the hardware - straplocks, locking tuners, TonePros bridge and tailpiece studs, aluminium tailpiece. It's hardly worth having the original parts in the first place! :lol:
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I've seen some stripped out Gibsons and the like on eBay, myself. I noticed a horrific trend of pulling the neck off, too.
Buying used makes me nervous unless I can inspect it, first. Course- it's the only way I would ever buy a Gibson.
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I know it will never happen, but I'd like to see manufacturers start selling empty instruments.
The new trend, it seems, is to make the best cheap instrument and gear (I suppose, since no one has money). I've never had a cheap instrument I didn't gut out, at some point.
I'm sure I'm the only one who actually wants this, however, and this would never be marketable.
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I'd happily buy guitars with no pickups in. Need everything else to get strings on to be able to check the quality/character of the acoustic sound of the guitar.
LTD are by far the worst for it in my experience; they will make danmed sure the guitar has a nice paintjob, often a marketable Name Player connection (if not a sig, a stripped down relative of one, or the same basic design and people connect the dots themselves) and usually EMGs (I like EMGs a lot, no problem there)...meanwhile the woods and construction are more often than not complete garbage (again, in my experience, but its of dozens of the bar-stewards, of which only a handfull have been acceptable instruments, fewer still genuinely good)
Ibanez are among the best; the pickups are cr@p and the hardware is usually good (if sometimes not; edge III for example) but I see a much greater proportion on them that are well made from good woods, and so have the basis laid for a good guitar. People often complain about the pickups, but I couldnt care less, and like it in fact: I've never even left in the pickups that came in the guitar when I got customs and chose the bloody things in the first place.
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I've said it before, but Gibson QC has always been really hit or miss, even back in Elder Days when Gibson guitars were crafted by actual live Elves.
Still, that inconsistency is a large part of their charm for me.
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Philly
Your guitars sound like Trigger's broom....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbha4XclSMU
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There is a hint of that, I must admit! :lol: