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Alex

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Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« on: August 15, 2011, 07:15:44 PM »
This is from an interview with Matt Heafy from Trivium; for some reason I think this is not the kind of advertisement/statement Gibson had hoped for.  :D Mildly amusing.

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What guitars did you use?

Gibson Les Paul Customs with EMG 81 and 85 pickups. I think I had about five or six, all with the same pickups, same string gauge, same action, and every single one sounds and plays completely different.

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 08:44:26 PM »
Another signature (Epi) with EMG's. Great, just what we were waiting for. :-)
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 09:10:50 PM »
Another signature (Epi) with EMG's. Great, just what we were waiting for. :-)

My thoughts exactly.. Why do people keep using those things, the EMG's?!

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 09:29:15 PM »
because emgs are awesome for super tight metal tones

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 09:33:05 PM »
Another signature (Epi) with EMG's. Great, just what we were waiting for. :-)

My thoughts exactly.. Why do people keep using those things, the EMG's?!
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 09:51:56 PM »
because emgs are awesome for super tight metal tones

Yeah, I know. But still...

Maybe I'm just jealous because I never could get the damn things to sound decent.

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 09:53:06 PM »
I think he's pretty much deaf ...

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 11:12:09 PM »

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What guitars did you use?

I think I had about five or six, all with the same pickups, same string gauge, same action, and every single one sounds and plays completely different.


That's the same with all guitars - even from the same batch
Gibson's use of the Plek machine will help with some setup consistency, but nothing will stop  pieces of wood bolted or glued together working together differently from other pieces of wood glued or bolted.

I have often seen a cheap brand where the wood of that particular guitar was just great sounding - and it sounded better than a more expensive factory built guitar, and had to convince the player that they should value THAT guitar a bit more and not just be lusting after one with an expensive label on the headstock.

All too often the player who sold their fantastic Squier strat in order to afford a "PROPER" American Fender strat has come back to me upset that the new expensive one lacks something that their cheaper one had.

Other times they got lucky and got a great sounding strat that time too
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 01:55:03 AM »
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What guitars did you use?

Gibson Les Paul Customs with EMG 81 and 85 pickups. I think I had about five or six, all with the same pickups, same string gauge, same action, and every single one sounds and plays completely different.

I don't think that's necessarily bad - he's not saying some were good and some were cr@p, he's saying they had character!

As Jonathan says above, that's what happens when you make things out of wood.  It's a long, long way from being an exact science.

(The EMGs are another topic....)
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 09:57:30 AM »
I like EMGs, they are great for a certain sound.  Its all just flavours.

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 10:43:00 AM »
Am I the only one quite interested? In terms of a decent Epiphone guitar. They've only just started to get good in terms of new models (not the wood, as discussed above)
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 12:36:42 PM »
if Epi Japan guitars were available in the UK, I wouldn't buy anything else - great value for money.

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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 01:01:39 PM »
if Epi Japan guitars were available in the UK, I wouldn't buy anything else - great value for money.

Yeah, my Fujigen Epiphones are my favourite guitars, I think.  Most of the time, anyway. :D

I'm sure the Korean Epis are good too, but I really can't get over the headstock shape (on SGS and LPs, that is) - I absolutely hate it!
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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 01:49:41 PM »
i do agree with jonathan - but i still thing its funny gibson publish this when they have such a bad rep for consistency.

something along the lines of " i can always get the tones i need", "there is always something special about them" or"each one has its own character" may have all worked better from a publicity point of view than "every single one sounds and plays completely different."


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Re: Gibson guitars consistency :-)
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2011, 03:03:20 PM »
i do agree with jonathan - but i still thing its funny gibson publish this when they have such a bad rep for consistency.

something along the lines of " i can always get the tones i need", "there is always something special about them" or"each one has its own character" may have all worked better from a publicity point of view than "every single one sounds and plays completely different."



that does really confirm what we know already - Gibson's QC is all over the place.