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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: gwEm on August 25, 2011, 01:42:22 PM

Title: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on August 25, 2011, 01:42:22 PM
http://ibanez-news.blogspot.com/2011/07/paul-gilbert-frm100-specs-and-pictures.html (http://ibanez-news.blogspot.com/2011/07/paul-gilbert-frm100-specs-and-pictures.html)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4vR7OA_sga0/TjWQy4TPZeI/AAAAAAAAAao/lDJVp-zoyD8/s1600/FRM100TR-1.jpg)

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Colour: Transparent Red
Body: Mahogany
Neck: 3-pc Mahogany/Maple (set)
Neck Profile: FRM100
Fingerboard: Rosewood
Frets: Medium
Inlay: Pearl Dot
Pickups: Dimarzio Injector/Area 67/Injector
Bridge: Tight-Tune
HW Colour: CH
Country of Origin: China


still no release date announced.

but now i'm really happy with my Yamaha SGV.. I'm not sure I have too much GAS for this one anymore  :?

Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on August 25, 2011, 01:55:38 PM
That's timely, I just mentioned the Fireman on another thread!

Proper DiMarzio pickups too!  :o

Do you reckon there's any chance this will have the pukka model's beefy neck, or will they opt for the lowest-common-denominator standard Ibanez matchstick neck?  My money's on the latter.....  :(
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Sancho on August 25, 2011, 01:57:17 PM
Much to my own amazement, I find myself tempted by this one...
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on August 25, 2011, 02:00:56 PM

Do you reckon there's any chance this will have the pukka model's beefy neck, or will they opt for the lowest-common-denominator standard Ibanez matchstick neck?  My money's on the latter.....  :(


Paul says: "The neck size and shape are a little smaller (per my request) than the original korina fireman, but still big enough to have lots of sustain and resonance."

so yeah, sounds like a chunky neck!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on August 25, 2011, 02:03:38 PM
the whole of Paul's writing:

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Hello,

I've been too busy touring to ask about the release date of the new Fireman, but I do know some details about the guitar itself (because I've been playing a factory sample as my main guitar every night.)

The scale length remains 24.75" (like all my other Fireman guitars.) The neck joint is a set neck, and is pretty much identical to the previous high-priced model. The pickups are DiMarzio Injectors on the bridge and neck, and a DiMarzio Area 67 in the middle. The frets are the tall skinny ones that I love for bending and vibrato. The bridge and tailpiece are a new design from Ibanez that lock down tight for sustain and intonation consistency (make sure to have 2 different sized allen wrenches on hand to unlock and adjust the bridge.) The body is mahogany. The neck is too, and there is a reinforcement strip of another wood in the center (like my other Fireman guitars.) The neck size and shape are a little smaller (per my request) than the original korina fireman, but still big enough to have lots of sustain and resonance. And of course, it's a Fireman! The body shape has a feel to it that is very unique and functional in surprising ways. The long upper cutaway allows for great balance. It also rests on your body, close to your heart. Since my ears don't hear as well as they used to, it has become really important to me how a guitar feels and resonates. The Fireman's upper cutaway rests against me and the notes literally go straight to my heart. I wasn't thinking about this when I flipped an Iceman upside down, but it is a happy accident that I really like. The guitar is made in China, which brings the price down quite low. And after trying and touring with several factory samples, I'm convinced that the quality is top-notch.

I don't know anything about the "limited" sales of it one way or the other. I put all my energy into making sure the specs on the guitar were perfect. But I have a feeling that if I keep playing it, they'll keep selling it.

And it's red!

Thank you,

Paul
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on August 25, 2011, 02:06:20 PM

Do you reckon there's any chance this will have the pukka model's beefy neck, or will they opt for the lowest-common-denominator standard Ibanez matchstick neck?  My money's on the latter.....  :(


Paul says: "The neck size and shape are a little smaller (per my request) than the original korina fireman, but still big enough to have lots of sustain and resonance."

so yeah, sounds like a chunky neck!

Depending on what he means by "a little", I could be very interested in this.  Phil buys an Ibanez at last?   :o
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on August 25, 2011, 02:09:29 PM

Do you reckon there's any chance this will have the pukka model's beefy neck, or will they opt for the lowest-common-denominator standard Ibanez matchstick neck?  My money's on the latter.....  :(


Paul says: "The neck size and shape are a little smaller (per my request) than the original korina fireman, but still big enough to have lots of sustain and resonance."

so yeah, sounds like a chunky neck!

Depending on what he means by "a little", I could be very interested in this.  Phil buys an Ibanez at last?   :o

theres a youtube video somewhere where paul shows this off. the original is like a tree trunk (bigger than a 50s les paul), and the affordable one is like a 50s les paul
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on August 25, 2011, 02:29:52 PM
theres a youtube video somewhere where paul shows this off. the original is like a tree trunk (bigger than a 50s les paul), and the affordable one is like a 50s les paul

Here we go, found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5QWODzgEq0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5QWODzgEq0)

He says it's only "microscopically" smaller!  :lol:

Gosh, I want one.  Not my usual kind of thing exactly, but it really appeals.....
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on August 25, 2011, 02:58:48 PM
Gosh, I want one.  Not my usual kind of thing exactly, but it really appeals.....

its a great concept isn't it :) though theres a couple of things i'd like to change on it.

firstly, put that area 67 in the neck position, and a dummy pickup in the middle, with a three way switch
secondly, move the volume knob in to a position better for violining
thirdly, i can tolerate the red, but i'm sure i'd prefer a different lighter colour, white or whatever
fourthly, ebony fingerboard
fifthly, maybe not a tortoiseshell plate (but i'm getting picky now)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Andrew W on August 25, 2011, 03:11:51 PM
This is the first Ibanez I've wanted in years. I like that very much.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on August 25, 2011, 03:39:58 PM
thirdly, i can tolerate the red, but i'm sure i'd prefer a different lighter colour, white or whatever

I'd prefer the korina, but it's a non-issue really.  The guitar is too cool for me to worry about the details (apart from the neck shape)

Let us know if you hear any more about when they're available!  :D
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Telerocker on August 25, 2011, 03:49:24 PM
I quite like this one, in natural korina.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Sancho on August 25, 2011, 05:19:18 PM
firstly, put that area 67 in the neck position, and a dummy pickup in the middle, with a three way switch
secondly, move the volume knob in to a position better for violining
thirdly, i can tolerate the red, but i'm sure i'd prefer a different lighter colour, white or whatever
Firstly : lose the Area 67. I installed a set in a Strat. Rotten pickups!
Secondly : keep the volume knob where it is, no need to get it in the way of my picking hand
Thirdly : I'd love natural korina, but I doubt it'll happen at this pricepoint (one can only hope)

Hmm, quite hard to please all the people all the time I guess :wink:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on August 25, 2011, 08:26:49 PM
Seems like a waste of an Iceman body to me :(

(http://vintageibanez.tripod.com/iceman/images/three_original_icemen_1975_with_text.jpg)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Jonny on August 25, 2011, 10:20:36 PM
I'd get it if the neck was smaller. But I'd still try it out to see if it was comfortable.

If not, then at least I know I'd get the shape as a custom!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on September 19, 2011, 12:18:24 PM
Spanish online store saying it will be available from 1st October for 899 euro
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: AndyR on September 19, 2011, 12:31:30 PM
Missed this first time round.

And I have to say, much to my shock and amazement, I quite like the look of it! :lol:

Forgive my ignorance (can't follow the links) - I'm assuming this guitar has some sort of Kiss reference? Is the "Paul", quoted above, Mr Stanley?
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: James C on September 19, 2011, 01:03:16 PM
Missed this first time round.

And I have to say, much to my shock and amazement, I quite like the look of it! :lol:

Forgive my ignorance (can't follow the links) - I'm assuming this guitar has some sort of Kiss reference? Is the "Paul", quoted above, Mr Stanley?

'Tis Paul Gilbert, but i think that a Paul Stanley inspired Fireman would be quite cool
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on September 19, 2011, 01:10:58 PM
Forgive my ignorance (can't follow the links) - I'm assuming this guitar has some sort of Kiss reference? Is the "Paul", quoted above, Mr Stanley?

No, Paul Stanley is associated with the Iceman (or, more correctly, the PS-10, which he would assert is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT guitar which just happens to be the same shape  :lol: ).

Gilbert designed the Fireman by reversing a picture of an Iceman and playing around with the features to suit him.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on September 19, 2011, 01:13:23 PM
Spanish online store saying it will be available from 1st October for 899 euro

Another dent in my savings then, unless I can actually manage to sell something.....  :|
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: AndyR on September 19, 2011, 06:34:38 PM
Thanks guys (although I've just noticed his name's in the URL that gwem put in his first post :roll:)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on September 19, 2011, 08:02:46 PM
Thanks guys (although I've just noticed his name's in the URL that gwem put in his first post :roll:)

bit of a briefing for you Andy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNEBaJ8FiAk
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2011, 10:54:40 AM
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on backorder
Expected date of delivery: 15.02.2012

 :| PDT_021
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2011, 12:53:26 PM
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on backorder
Expected date of delivery: 15.02.2012

 :| PDT_021

+1

Although it gives me time to raise the cash.

(Where was that backorder, by the way?  The Spanish place?)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2011, 01:00:08 PM
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on backorder
Expected date of delivery: 15.02.2012

 :| PDT_021

+1

Although it gives me time to raise the cash.

(Where was that backorder, by the way?  The Spanish place?)

believe me i've been keeping a close eye on this one - its been coming on and off european mail order sites for a while. was even on thomann for a bit(!)

this was on musicstore.com - apparently a german site:

http://www.musicstore.com/en_EN/EUR/Guitars/Other-models/Ibanez-FRM100-TR-Paul-Gilbert-Fireman-Transparent-Red/art-GIT0022827-000
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
I'm glad you're keeping a look out, keep me posted!!  :)

No doubt there'll come a point when they suddenly appear at UK dealers, albeit for a short time....

Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2011, 01:31:11 PM
I'm glad you're keeping a look out, keep me posted!!  :)

No doubt there'll come a point when they suddenly appear at UK dealers, albeit for a short time....

I guess they're having problems with the production and it keeps getting delayed, so sites put them up, and then take them down when they don't get stock
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 25, 2011, 12:32:17 AM
Have you guys seen this on Jemsite?

The delay might be something to do with a recall on the the tone pot! ???

Some one has one.. and it looks good.

NGD: FRM-100TR

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f18/ngd-frm-100tr-115672.html
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on October 25, 2011, 12:50:23 AM
Pretty silly reason for a recall.

I don't like the fact they're talking about advance-ordering these things.  I'd be happier paying for something which actually exists.....

The neck joint looks a bit weird in those pics - it's like a bolt-on which has been glued.  Why not just smooth it away so there's no "step", like an old V (or a Feline)?


(Thanks for the link, by the way, I don't normally visit Jemsite.  :D )
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on October 25, 2011, 10:09:46 AM
IIRC, the pukka one (to use Philly's phrase :) ) also that weird neck joint. I think it /looks/ stylish, but of course I have no view on playability or tone.

Great link Afghan.

Like Philly, I have doubts about preordering. I'd have no problem buying this sight unseen over the net (more fool me I guess), but I'd want it to be at least in stock.

Mine will be going straight down to Feline for a custom pickguard to be made.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on October 25, 2011, 10:14:31 AM
 :lol:

do you see how my posts have gone from - not that impressed, probably won't get one... to having a set of mods already planned and searching the net every other day to see if its out yet!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on October 25, 2011, 10:43:06 AM
Like Philly, I have doubts about preordering. I'd have no problem buying this sight unseen over the net (more fool me I guess), but I'd want it to be at least in stock.

Mine will be going straight down to Feline for a custom pickguard to be made.

I think it will probably be a sight-unseen purchase, unless they turn up at a shop I can get to easily. 

Still want someone to 100% confirm about the neck shape though - I can't shake the feeling that someone in the Ibanez factory will get a last-minute uncontrollable urge to whip out a spokeshave and turn it into a toothpick.....   :|


:lol:

do you see how my posts have gone from - not that impressed, probably won't get one... to having a set of mods already planned and searching the net every other day to see if its out yet!

Whereas I was all over it, but now doubts are creeping in.... mainly due to the ordering process, though.

I would definitely mod it, but only to replace the wiring they're making such a fuss about.  Bridge tone or master tone, those cheapo pots and switch would have to go.... personally I might go for a neck/middle tone and leave the bridge pickup wide open.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 22, 2011, 04:32:01 PM
Can't afford this?

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=09121417392228 (http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=09121417392228)


Here's a secondhand one for less than half the money!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120813474356?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1018wt_1344 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120813474356?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1018wt_1344)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 22, 2011, 04:46:25 PM
Pretty silly reason for a recall.

I don't like the fact they're talking about advance-ordering these things.  I'd be happier paying for something which actually exists.....

The neck joint looks a bit weird in those pics - it's like a bolt-on which has been glued.  Why not just smooth it away so there's no "step", like an old V (or a Feline)?



It's a bolt on neck design that has been glued in!

Ibanez have done it for a while as did Washburn on the Paul Stanley models
It works pretty well and means that much less time is needed on the production line

The tone control is a whole lotta fuss over nothing - 5 mins to fix!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 22, 2011, 05:34:56 PM
It's a bolt on neck design that has been glued in!

Ibanez have done it for a while as did Washburn on the Paul Stanley models
It works pretty well and means that much less time is needed on the production line

Just what it looked like!

Pretty silly/lazy though, for a model which doesn't even come in a bolt-on version!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Sancho on November 22, 2011, 05:39:00 PM
Maybe PG requested it that way? He's been playing Ibanez RGs (and other models) for years now, he's probably grown really accustomed to that shape.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 22, 2011, 08:20:31 PM
Maybe, but surely it wouldn't be any less comfortable if they glued it in and then made a "seamless" joint?  They're already 90% of the way there.

(http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj445/nezcar/Image0314.jpg)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 22, 2011, 09:26:48 PM
Maybe, but surely it wouldn't be any less comfortable if they glued it in and then made a "seamless" joint?  They're already 90% of the way there.

(http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj445/nezcar/Image0314.jpg)

It's a lot more work to go seamless
this way they are getting maximum glueing area whilst using parts straight off the CNC machine
No carving or shaping needs to be done and 100% constancy is achieved too

Same is true - or even more so with Gibson 's LPs and Flying Vs etc
Only a limited few guitars ever get a fully carved heel - for the same reasons as above
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 22, 2011, 10:02:33 PM
OK, fair point!  :wink:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: AndyR on November 23, 2011, 12:29:23 PM
OK, fair point!  :wink:

Yeah, quit yer whinging Philly, all you'll need is an appropriate shade of nail-varnish and a session with your dremel - you'll have a "perfectly carved" heel for much cheaper than they could do it for you. :wink: :lol:

If I was into the guitar itself, that neck joint, while not as pretty as say the ones Jonathan does, actually looks pretty comfy to me already (I am a strat/tele guy though :lol:).
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 23, 2011, 06:31:28 PM
Ignore Philly.

He's just pissed off that it can't be easily removed for safe storage under the bed.  

Plus he's desperately trying to find reasons not to buy a completed guitar...  :)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 23, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
Ignore Philly.

He's just pissed off that it can't be easily removed for safe storage under the bed.  

Plus he's desperately trying to find reasons not to buy a completed guitar...  :)

You know that's not true.  I've bought more completed guitars than you've had hot dinners.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 23, 2011, 06:48:06 PM
 PDT_032

I know... sorry.

But with all the ebay listing fees you could have bought a few more.   PDT_028
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 23, 2011, 06:58:49 PM
But with all the ebay listing fees you could have bought a few more.   PDT_028

That's true.

There were some I listed so many times I made a loss - and that's without including the origonal cost of the guitar.  :|
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Afghan Dave on December 14, 2011, 03:01:09 AM
More info from Paul himself - a discussion of neck thickness just for Philly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFE2YKMjs2U&feature=related
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on December 15, 2011, 01:26:38 AM
More info from Paul himself - a discussion of neck thickness just for Philly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFE2YKMjs2U&feature=related

That was good!  :D   I like listening to Paul Gilbert, he's intelligent and (this'll sound weird but....) he has a good speaking voice.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 15, 2011, 01:48:27 AM
Well, wouldn't be too bad if he says the thickness of the neck, right? :roll:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on December 15, 2011, 02:10:24 AM
From what he's saying I'm a bit worried they've slimmed it down too much compared with the original korina version.... but maybe not.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Twinfan on December 15, 2011, 09:15:07 AM
There was a video in this month's Guitarist mag, is that the one Dave's put a YouTube link to?  If so, I watched it fascinated as Paul Gilbert is a) a superb player and b) such a nice guy!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Afghan Dave on December 15, 2011, 10:08:55 AM
..I watched it fascinated as Paul Gilbert is a) a superb player and b) such a nice guy!

I never get over that. It proves you can be truly gifted without the need to be a conceited.

A totally nice bloke, who BTW replys to your emails!   :P
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Andrew W on December 15, 2011, 01:35:13 PM
There was a video in this month's Guitarist mag, is that the one Dave's put a YouTube link to?  If so, I watched it fascinated as Paul Gilbert is a) a superb player and b) such a nice guy!

Different video but I'll seek out the Guitarist interview too. I am very much enjoying the collective forum man-crush on Paul Gilbert (I include myself) :) - he just comes across so well and I like that within the world of shred he's really doing his own thing with pickup choices, string thicknesses and so on. One of the few shred players who I really enjoy listening to both on records and in interview.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: JacksonRR on December 15, 2011, 02:58:22 PM
Paul definitely has a sense of humor about his playing.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvEtPr3YsRY
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on December 29, 2011, 02:54:59 PM
Alright, I just called Thomann.

They have a few coming at the end of January - almost all of this shipment is already allocated. They advise pre-ordering now via their website since they don't know when they can get another shipment.

I'm tempted I can tell you!!

But resisting for now.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on December 29, 2011, 03:22:50 PM
In fact, I'm going to leave it.

The price is right, and its a cool guitar and all, but something about that red finish... and you know what - I have some really nice strats, plus my Yamaha SGV (modded with a Paul Gilbert injector).

Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on December 29, 2011, 03:28:52 PM
Alright, I just called Thomann.

They have a few coming at the end of January - almost all of this shipment is already allocated. They advise pre-ordering now via their website since they don't know when they can get another shipment.

Blimey, it's hard work getting one of these isn't it?  :?

But thanks for the info!  Now.... what to do....? 
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Andrew W on December 29, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
Alright, I just called Thomann.

They have a few coming at the end of January - almost all of this shipment is already allocated. They advise pre-ordering now via their website since they don't know when they can get another shipment.

Blimey, it's hard work getting one of these isn't it?  :?

But thanks for the info!  Now.... what to do....? 

Three, magic little words, Philly.

Add. To. Cart.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on December 29, 2011, 06:10:51 PM
 :lol:

Hmmmm, it's tempting.... and the price seems pretty reasonable (not that I have anywhere else to compare to).

What happens with Thomann when something's out of stock?  Do they charge your credit card up front?
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Twinfan on December 29, 2011, 06:54:10 PM
They only charge on despatch, Phil  ;)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on December 29, 2011, 06:58:01 PM
Thanks Dave..... I think!  :lol:

Ack, and 2012 was going to be my "don't buy lots of guitars year"!!!  :x

I've already got GAS for at least two or three guitars.  :roll:

I'll think about it for a couple of days, let's get New Year out of the way first.....  
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: WezV on December 30, 2011, 12:10:06 AM
now come on philly, i think i need to demand a new years resolution from you here, i want to see that hardtail strat relic at some point!!  ;)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on December 30, 2011, 12:14:22 AM
now come on philly, i think i need to demand a new years resolution from you here, i want to see that hardtail strat relic at some point!!  ;)

 :lol:  I do good intentions rather than resolutions Wez.... but definitely this year!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on January 01, 2012, 11:25:41 AM
In fact, I'm going to leave it.

The price is right, and its a cool guitar and all, but something about that red finish... and you know what - I have some really nice strats, plus my Yamaha SGV (modded with a Paul Gilbert injector).

errr....

guess i'll let you know how mine is when it comes then Philly  :roll:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Twinfan on January 01, 2012, 12:17:17 PM
Ha ha!  First GAS of the year!  And it wasn't me!  :lol:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Andrew W on January 01, 2012, 01:02:25 PM
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100702150415/simpsons/images/thumb/6/6a/Mr_Burns_evil.gif/431px-Mr_Burns_evil.gif) (http://simpsons.wikia.com/index.php?title=Charles_Montgomery_Burns&image=Mr_Burns_evil-gif)

Eeeeexcellent.

I did hope that someone would succumb, though until I got my McCarty I did think it would probably be me. :)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on January 01, 2012, 04:30:17 PM
In fact, I'm going to leave it.

The price is right, and its a cool guitar and all, but something about that red finish... and you know what - I have some really nice strats, plus my Yamaha SGV (modded with a Paul Gilbert injector).

errr....

guess i'll let you know how mine is when it comes then Philly  :roll:

And I was sure you'd talked yourself out of it!  :lol:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Ian Price on January 01, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
More info from Paul himself - a discussion of neck thickness just for Philly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFE2YKMjs2U&feature=related

That was good!  :D   I like listening to Paul Gilbert, he's intelligent and (this'll sound weird but....) he has a good speaking voice.

Just watched - great vid indeed. "When you're a guitar player you must tweak. I can't help myself"  :D
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on January 11, 2012, 01:19:27 PM
Thomann writes:

Quote
I am very sorry to advise you that we have been informed by our supplier that the Ibanez FRM100-TR will not be delivered to us until the beginning of March 2012.
 
We understand that you may not want to wait this long so should you wish to change your order for an alternative item or would like advice on an alternative from one of our experts, please let us know and we will be happy to arrange it.

They have not charged me so far.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Afghan Dave on January 11, 2012, 01:21:41 PM
Should be worth the wait as it seems great and there really is nothing like it.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on January 11, 2012, 01:23:20 PM
Should be worth the wait as it seems great and there really is nothing like it.
Yes, I think I will wait it out until March
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on January 11, 2012, 01:30:55 PM
Thomann writes:

Quote
I am very sorry to advise you that we have been informed by our supplier that the Ibanez FRM100-TR will not be delivered to us until the beginning of March 2012.
 
We understand that you may not want to wait this long so should you wish to change your order for an alternative item or would like advice on an alternative from one of our experts, please let us know and we will be happy to arrange it.

They have not charged me so far.



Gives me longer to think about it!  :lol:

But I was kinda hoping you'd get yours quickly and do a review for us....
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on January 12, 2012, 06:48:54 PM
some comments on the neck shape vs the 'pukka' version from someone who isn't Paul Gilbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBT-VcCYmKc
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: horsehead on January 12, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
I love the idea of thisguitar and a little gas flame has come on in my heart for one
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Afghan Dave on January 12, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
I love the idea of thisguitar and a little gas flame has come on in my heart for one

It's a grower isn't it!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: horsehead on January 12, 2012, 08:29:49 PM
It's a grower isn't it!

kind of like my hard on
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on January 12, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
It's a grower isn't it!

kind of like my hard on

Ah, you youngsters!  :lol:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on January 12, 2012, 11:13:39 PM
some comments on the neck shape vs the 'pukka' version from someone who isn't Paul Gilbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBT-VcCYmKc

Blimey, 2 to 4mm is a lot thinner, if he's got that right!  Chiz.

Good clip though, thanks.  I do really like that red shell scratchplate and I'm digging the pickups.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Twinfan on January 13, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
I thought that too Phil - that's a massive difference in neck size.

Good sounding guitar though, I really like it!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Andrew W on January 13, 2012, 10:12:51 PM
I thought the range of tones was very decent too. The cleans especially were better than I imagined they'd be.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: James C on January 27, 2012, 07:09:03 PM
some comments on the neck shape vs the 'pukka' version from someone who isn't Paul Gilbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBT-VcCYmKc

Blimey, 2 to 4mm is a lot thinner, if he's got that right!  Chiz.

Good clip though, thanks.  I do really like that red shell scratchplate and I'm digging the pickups.

Now the specs are up I found out the original fireman was 22.5 to 26 mm thick, the new frm100 is 22mm to 24mm so not a lot thinner  :D

I have an rg, i have a les paul, if only i had something to sit between the two :roll:
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on February 03, 2012, 10:29:25 AM
now end of March..

which is actually good, because I can't afford it at the moment
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on February 03, 2012, 11:21:18 AM
Keeps moving, doesn't it?
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on February 03, 2012, 11:43:38 AM
Keeps moving, doesn't it?

yes it does.. naturally i don't blame Thomann for that, but Ibanez. i can even imagine the date slipping further. I'm not that bothered by the delay at this time however.

more and more people seem to be getting them though - theres a few more normal-punter videos on youtube now.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on February 03, 2012, 02:00:38 PM
I'm a little less GASed than I was - still a bit put off by that slimmed-down neck. 

But if I manage to avoid buying anything else in the meantime (big if!) I may well still take a punt on one when they eventually appear.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on February 20, 2012, 11:54:00 AM
now mid-April  :|
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on February 20, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
I wonder if they're actually being made available in other countries, or is there a worldwide shortage?

Seems like they've seriously underestimated demand, which seems odd for a big outfit like Ibanez.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Madsakre on February 20, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
Let me be the one to put the vacuum cleaner down your pocket. We got a few of them in a shop here in denmark:
http://www.4sound.dk/shop/elektriske-guitarer/ibanez/frm100-tr-transparent-red.html (http://www.4sound.dk/shop/elektriske-guitarer/ibanez/frm100-tr-transparent-red.html)

I believe they ship worldwide.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Loomer on February 20, 2012, 01:09:07 PM
If only they would make other, less daft-looking guitars with DAT NECK :(
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on February 20, 2012, 01:35:53 PM
I just remembered, I saw one of the original korina models at GuitarGuitar in Epsom (how could I forget?  :o  )

Didn't ask to try it though, far too scarily expensive.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Twinfan on February 20, 2012, 03:00:18 PM
Looked great though didn't it Phil?  8)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on February 20, 2012, 03:09:36 PM
It did!  You could tell even from a distance that the neck is pretty humongous.  In a good way!  :D

I was surprised by how very sharp the body edges looked, though - hardly bevelled at all.  Could be a bit uncomfortable.

Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on April 03, 2012, 03:13:05 PM
sort of lost the thrill for it.

just called Thomann up and cancelled the order, was due to arrive next week.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on April 03, 2012, 03:27:13 PM
sort of lost the thrill for it.

just called Thomann up and cancelled the order, was due to arrive next week.

Aaargh!  Now I'll never find out if it's any good!

You weren't tempted to wait that one more week?
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on April 03, 2012, 03:40:58 PM
sort of lost the thrill for it.

just called Thomann up and cancelled the order, was due to arrive next week.

Aaargh!  Now I'll never find out if it's any good!

You weren't tempted to wait that one more week?

It seemed clear to me that it would be good.. but I'm not even tempted to wait one more week. I know Thomann has an amazing returns policy but still.. ;)

The main point is that I am still in the process of trying to buy a house and could do with coin at the moment. At the same time, I've got two guitars on order.. One of them I am very much still hot for, and the other (this Fireman) I'm starting to wonder if I really need. Was an easy decision to cancel the order really. If I have pay for the other guitar at some point in the next few weeks, it might also be tricky.. Two would have been impossible, and I much rather the other guitar.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on April 03, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
I just remembered, I saw one of the original korina models at GuitarGuitar in Epsom (how could I forget?  :o  )

Didn't ask to try it though, far too scarily expensive.

For the price of the one hanging in Guitar guitar - I will make you one , and a matching Iceman to go with it
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on April 03, 2012, 04:31:28 PM
I just remembered, I saw one of the original korina models at GuitarGuitar in Epsom (how could I forget?  :o  )

Didn't ask to try it though, far too scarily expensive.

For the price of the one hanging in Guitar guitar - I will make you one , and a matching Iceman to go with it

 :lol:

Well, if I was going custom...... I like the korina, I like the pickups, I like the big neck.... but if the world were my oyster,  I don't think I'd bother with either of those body shapes!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Andrew W on November 14, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Here's a bit of threadnomancy for you but I thought these (Japan only) new Firemen (Firemans?) were really cool:


(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2012/FRM100_MST_27_01.png)

(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2012/FRM100_TR_27_01.png)

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/page12_jp.php?&data_id=145&color=CL02&cat_id=1&series_id=47 (http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/page12_jp.php?&data_id=145&color=CL02&cat_id=1&series_id=47)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 14, 2012, 11:46:10 AM
The yellow is pretty cool, although I don't like the single-ply white scratchplate.

I'd still like to try one of these..... felt a slight flare-up of GAS there.....
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on November 14, 2012, 01:32:22 PM
I'm usually not into the more funky body shapes like this, but something about it just looks so cool.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Bob Gnarly on November 14, 2012, 07:56:47 PM
I tried an FRM100 in GuitarGuitar Edinburgh, and was disappointed.

I have two Jap PGM's (301 and 500), and thought it lacked the quality of these guitars.

I didn't even rate it compared to my Indonesian Iceman (loaded with Cold Sweats ;)

I wanted to love it, but just couldn't.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: itamar101 on November 14, 2012, 08:30:25 PM
I tried an FRM100 in GuitarGuitar Edinburgh, and was disappointed.

I have two Jap PGM's (301 and 500), and thought it lacked the quality of these guitars.

I didn't even rate it compared to my Indonesian Iceman (loaded with Cold Sweats ;)

I wanted to love it, but just couldn't.


What didn't you like about it?
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Telerocker on November 14, 2012, 10:01:51 PM
I must admit they look sub zero cool. Don't know how they sound.
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on November 15, 2012, 09:02:52 AM
The yellow one is GREAT!
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on November 15, 2012, 09:26:34 AM
Some kind of white (vintage white?) would have been better though.

Fireman GAS again.. Good threadnomancy :)
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 15, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
Some kind of white (vintage white?) would have been better though.

Korina would have been perfect.

But I assume that would've blown the production costs budget?
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: gwEm on November 15, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
Some kind of white (vintage white?) would have been better though.

Korina would have been perfect.

But I assume that would've blown the production costs budget?

I respect your wide knowledge of guitars Philly, but even you are sadly mistaken. Its quite well known that almost any guitar shape looks the best in some shade of white :-P
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Philly Q on November 15, 2012, 12:18:05 PM
I respect your wide knowledge of guitars Philly, but even you are sadly mistaken. Its quite well known that almost any guitar shape looks the best in some shade of white :-P

If we're talking Les Paul Juniors and Specials, I agree.

Almost anything else (except SG Customs - not Standards)..... nah!  :P
Title: Re: ibanez frm100 (details of the affordable fireman)
Post by: Brow on November 15, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
I still can't bring myself to like the look of these guitars  :lol:

I love the Iceman shape, but just can't get into these.

A few £s saved for me then  :lol: