Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: ztikmaen on October 11, 2011, 09:06:02 AM
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Please help me and my gas!
Aha, what do you guys think of these?
Reverend Flatroc (Gretschy?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u98em19yKY
Reverend Warhawk 390 (Firebirdy?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFDplwKtUR0&feature=related
Reverend Jetstream 290 (Idk... P90s though)
http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/bolt_on_series/jetstream_290.html
Reverend Club King 290 (Semi hollow P90)
http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/bolt_on_series/club_king_290.html
I can't decide at all :((
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I liked the Flatroc best
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I don't understand. None of these guitars are stratocasters or telecasters.
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Might I take this time to make a mention of a guitar you may also like?
http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/USA/guitars/asat-special/index.asp (http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/USA/guitars/asat-special/index.asp)
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Might I take this time to make a mention of a guitar you may also like?
http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/USA/guitars/asat-special/index.asp (http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/USA/guitars/asat-special/index.asp)
Cool! I was considering them but they are more expensive and I fear it's style is similar enough to steal the limelight of my Tele
I liked the Flatroc best
I liked that most at first too. But I'm wondering if that is similar-ish to a Telecaster (on cowboy steroids)
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They're different, with different pickups. It matters what you like and what tone you're after.
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They're different, with different pickups. It matters what you like and what tone you're after.
Yeah, but how different? (The ultimate question haha)
It seems like the P90s are meatier than minhumbuckers so I guess that could offer a wider variety in my arsenal? Ideally I'd have both :/
I'm really gassing for the Flatroc for no apparent reason... The minhumbuckers seems so cool
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Out of those, the 390 appeals to me, most, since I could use the middle position for a dummy coil...
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Out of those, the 390 appeals to me, most, since I could use the middle position for a dummy coil...
Aha, personally noise Isn't too big of a problem for me. I think my biggest favorite/bug about the 390 is the 3 pickups. Heaps of tonal varieties I s'pose... But then I'd rather have all the moving space I need :/
After playing all my guitars I actually want a Maple fretboard now. So I guess that's out actually
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I liked the Warhawk 390 the most. Hopefully it's not as head-heavy as the reverse body Firebird - that's what you get when you let a car designer design guitars. He will never have to play them so he will never be bothered by unbalanced guitars.
Cheers Stephan
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Club King looks good to me.
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Of the ones you've listed, the Warhawk appeals to me most.
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Argh! 3 votes Warhawk, 1 vote Flatroc, 1 vote ClubKing... Daum...
I think I'll have to do the "which would you least want to miss out on test". But then I wouldn't know :/ The Warhawk looks the most interesting but the Flatroc and Jetstream look simple and safe bets. Then again I don't have a semi hollow. Then again I'm not big enough to play one I think
I think whichever I get I'll like. Oh btw these are all Korina guitars so I was wondering if I got a Flatroc for example, it has a maple 25.5" neck and Revtrons. So is that kind of a mix of Fender, Gibson (Korina is like mahogany), and Gretsch?
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The Warhawk and Club King are my number one and two.
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flatroc and the warhawk
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flatroc and the warhawk
Club King looks good to me.
Of the ones you've listed, the Warhawk appeals to me most.
The Warhawk and Club King are my number one and two.
Argh! All these mixed reactions are making me crazy! xD
Ok ok... Seeing as there are same model guitar with different fretboard woods, how much of a difference should I expect? For example I quite liked the Rosewood Flatroc, but I kinda want a maple neck (which only comes in cream)
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Oh, just though I'd list my bugs (and likes) I have... Maybe you can make some suggestions based on these
Warhawk 390
+Super Different with P90s, three pickups, and shape
- Middle pickup might get in way!** :shock:
- No Binding I suppose
Flatroc
+Kinda like a Gretsch soundwise!
+Uber Cool style imo
-Maybe too similar to my Tele? Two cleanish pickups, slab top, bolt on 25.5"
- Can't choose colour xD
Club King
+Don't have a semi hollow, might be cool to have!
+The RevTron version is like a Gretsch! Love the flat top
- Might be too big!**
Jetstream
+Classic P90 approach
- Most boring/standard, I want something different I guess
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Also flatrock, clubking, jetstream is bolt on neck and warhawk glued-in
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Also flatrock, clubking, jetstream is bolt on neck and warhawk glued-in
Yeah I know. So any new suggestions based on that?
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Argh! All these mixed reactions are making me crazy! xD
You've lised so many completely differently-styled guitars there, it's not like you're trying to choose between a couple of almost identical guitars. You've gots solids, semis, set-necks, bolt-ons, P-90s...... So it's hardly surprising you're getting mixed reactions! :P
Do you know anywhere which stocks lots of Reverends so you can try them out? I certainly don't, and I suspect most people are, like me, responding based on looks/features rather than experience.
But seriously, the best thing you could do would be to try them out and see what you actually like.
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I would take the warhawk myself, love the sound of it and 9 out of 10 times I prefer sound of set net. apart from in stuff like tele's
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@ Philly Q: Well yeah, the possiblilities are so varied because all I need is something to fill a gap in my guttering needs AND wants. I'm trying to do the best I can at filling an entire spectrum of guitar styles with only four axes :/
I would try em out if I could, I really would, but down in New Zealand options and stocks are very limited. Most of the things I've bought have been without trying em out. I think I've basically got ProGuitarShop demos to make my decisions and buy from. But if I really had to narrow it down, it would be between the Flatroc and Warhawk
Btw I've got an HSH Ibby that can somewhat get some quacks in 2-4.
I would take the warhawk myself, love the sound of it and 9 out of 10 times I prefer sound of set net. apart from in stuff like tele's
Apart from things like Teles? Is that a generalization for Fenders or Teles only? I'm not sure what they are but by the feel of it I already have a couple of Bolt on but 24.75" guitars. And one Tele/ Bolt-on 25.5"
Apart from the set neck, what do you like about the Warhawk? As opposed to the Flatroc for example?
Oh btw, in my past experience I think I've come to like my simple axes more. My faves are both two pickup-d, non coil tappy, hardtail axes. But then again the only slightly radical thing I've owned is a fairly mid-low range metalhead Ibbie with an HSH and Floyd Rose bridge. It seems to me that usually simpler guitar have more mojo...
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I have bolt on's and had bolt on's....find bolt on guitars to be more twangy (technical term) there is exeptions to the rule but to me.
I love the look and the sound of the warhawk, but the flatroc does appeal in the gretsch kinda way......reason i chose warhawk was slightly liked the sound of it over flatroc....but was close thing. which one would add something to your collection that others dont...think there is a 2 hb warhawk
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Aha well the 2 HB Warhawk is almost in the exact same ballpark as my other guitars anyway, perhaps a more Les Paul-y approach though
Well based on your past experience, which purchases had you enjoyed most? The logical choices or the ones that you just want? Because my head says semi-hollow or Warhawk, but my heart says Flatroc >_< I'll kick myself if it ends up replacing the Tele though
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If the Flatroc is your cup of tea, just go for that one. It will provide a unique sound with those Gretsch-type pu's.
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mmm gretschy...seems you keep coming back to the flatroc
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If it were me, I would have a good ol' try of the models that attracted me and weigh up the pro's & con's thereafter. My choice of the Club King was based purely on the look/vibe. I have never played one and I might not take to it but what I meant when stating my preference is that it would be the one I'd pick up first.
The set neck/ bolt on issue isn't important for me- one is not better than the other in my opinion. The whole range look good-interesting takes on classic ideas and the guitars probably cover a lot of ground. But, as Philly pointed out, they are all different and each of us will have our own favourites.
I'd spend some time playing them each almost blindfold to see which feels more "you" and let your heightened guitar senses choose for you.
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Thanks guys,
SG: I would play one of there were some Reverends down in New Zealand >_<
Great help you guys, at least I'm more confident that whatever I get it will be an interesting and good one.
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they are nice guitars
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Oh and one last thing seeing as there are absolutely multitudes of pickup/body combinations that Reverend offers,
Which is closer to that Humbucker sound? Which is closer to that single coil sound? P90s or Filtertron style MiniHumbuckers???
Because the Club King is a Semi Hollow 25.5" that comes with either P90s or MiniBuckers. Should be an exquisite combo
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Semi-hollow sounds different then a non-hollow. With the Revtrons you should get in Gretsch-terrority, with the P90's more into the Gibson semi-hollow-range. P90's can produce a thick and often snarly tone, due to the big magnet, but most p90's have also air and bite in the topfrequencies. I had the Yamaha Troy van Leeuwen signature (the 503TvL) - hollowbody, bigsby and three P90's, plus out of phase wiring. Big tones from that one, way bigger then my tele. The revtrons will provide a meaty twang. But if you work with the tonecontrol, you can get all kind of tones out of them. I actually steer my tele with the tonecontrol, rather then the vol.knob. Btw, I believe most Reverends have a basscontourknob, which is quite effective to add or reduce the amount of bass. You can go from thin singlecoil-vibes to thick tones with a twist of the basscontourknob.
I think you should first make up your mind which tones really appeal to you, so can make a better decision about the pickups.
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Semi-hollow sounds different then a non-hollow. With the Revtrons you should get in Gretsch-terrority, with the P90's more into the Gibson semi-hollow-range. P90's can produce a thick and often snarly tone, due to the big magnet, but most p90's have also air and bite in the topfrequencies. I had the Yamaha Troy van Leeuwen signature (the 503TvL) - hollowbody, bigsby and three P90's, plus out of phase wiring. Big tones from that one, way bigger then my tele. The revtrons will provide a meaty twang. But if you work with the tonecontrol, you can get all kind of tones out of them. I actually steer my tele with the tonecontrol, rather then the vol.knob. Btw, I believe most Reverends have a basscontourknob, which is quite effective to add or reduce the amount of bass. You can go from thin singlecoil-vibes to thick tones with a twist of the basscontourknob.
I think you should first make up your mind which tones really appeal to you, so can make a better decision about the pickups.
Thanks man, well tbh I'm going for any nice tone that is not in the ballpark with my guitars right now. Seems like either would fit nicely between a Humbucker and single coil, especially seeing as this would be my first semi hollow.
But could you explain the difference regardless of guitar between the P90s and MiniHums? Because I've heard many answers that give me an idea but slightly dance around the question a bit
Bite? Lows/mids/highs? Compression? Clean/distorted tones? I guess I want to get an axe to to slightly overdriven cleans, probably bluesy but with more bite (without getting too far into the traditional single coil tone ballpark
Once again, thanks mate
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It depends in which guitar. Generally speaking I see minihumbuckers as a leaner, brighter and more focussed pickup thenfull hb's. I like them in the old Gibson Deluxes, but not in every guitar. A good p90 will sound bigger, warmer, but still with the singecoil-vibe, especially in the higher registers.
You can read something about minihumbuckers here:
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2009/May/Humbuckers_and_Mini_Humbuckers.aspx (http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2009/May/Humbuckers_and_Mini_Humbuckers.aspx)
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Great great great! Thanks man!! :D