Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Madsakre on November 23, 2011, 04:59:53 PM
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Hi all. The thing is that i've been on the lookout for a new Amp for a year now. i got 13.000,- Dkr to spend. Its around 1400Ģ
I've always like recto's, but im also a huge 5150 fan, and my experience is that they cant sound like each others xD
The things i like about each of them is.
Recto - Enormous bottom end, and the fullest bodied sound on the market.
5150/6505. - The Metallic sound, the tight feel and the flame thrower top end.
I kinda want something in between those two. A bottom end which does not get flappy, and is easy to control. A voicing which does not require alot of gain, to make things moving. I have to use alot of gain on some amps to make the palm mutes convincing.
My fav pickup is the painkiller, so i love mids and lots of top end :)
The amps i've been looking at have been these so far:
6505(duh)
Randall V2
Engl Blackmore
and loads others.
Nice features would be something similar to the 6505's resonance swich where you can add more focus on the bottom end. A really neat feature.
I have a tendency to roll the treble back on my amps and use the presence for top end instead.
I play grindcore, i like mids, i like a very, very punchy sound with loads of bottom and top end to fill it up :)
Please come with some suggestions on amps i should check out, and youtube clips are also more than welcome.
PS.
I Use a Mesa recto 4x12 oversized rectifier cab :)
-Mads
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the blackmore might be a bit too vintage-sounding for that, maybe. it's not just as out-and-out br00tal as some of teh other engls.
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other engl's sound like sterilized germans inside a tinbox. i hate powerballs
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I must say, the Blackmore can do "brutal" just fine :)
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I'm not really a fan of Engl.
Have you considered Laney?
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i dont really like british amps. el34's not my thing
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5153 would be my bet.
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I added a mid-sweep to my 5150 and I can get Rectoish tones out of the rhythm channel boosted or with a few resistors snipped out effectively turning it into a meatier and less aggressive lead2. Been meaning to get a dual pot so I can try out Blackstar's ISF circuit. Of course, the first things I did was karate chop that fizz down a notch and add a bias pot. Bias pot is a must have. Can't believe Peavey continues to omit that.
If you get a 5150/6505, I'd have no problem sharing my notes on what changes did what and you(or a buddy or kidnap Toe-knee he's closer than I am) could mod that little girl into Satan's whore.
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AMPEG VL1002 swap it to 6550's. end of story
this one is 6l6's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110777853278?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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I added a mid-sweep to my 5150 and I can get Rectoish tones out of the rhythm channel boosted or with a few resistors snipped out effectively turning it into a meatier and less aggressive lead2. Been meaning to get a dual pot so I can try out Blackstar's ISF circuit. Of course, the first things I did was karate chop that fizz down a notch and add a bias pot. Bias pot is a must have. Can't believe Peavey continues to omit that.
If you get a 5150/6505, I'd have no problem sharing my notes on what changes did what and you(or a buddy or kidnap Toe-knee he's closer than I am) could mod that little girl into Satan's whore.
I'd like to see the details of the ISF pot if you wouldn't mind emailing that to me mate.
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other engl's sound like sterilized germans inside a tinbox. i hate powerballs
my savage se sounds like a more versatile, higher gain blackmore. it's discontinued, though.
I must say, the Blackmore can do "brutal" just fine :)
i never said it didn't, but it is one of the more vintage-voiced engls. Vintage voiced for an engl is still pretty heavy, though (unless you're talking about a classic) :lol:
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AMPEG VL1002 swap it to 6550's. end of story
this one is 6l6's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110777853278?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
I've always wanted a Ampeg Vh140C. But they do not exist in Scandinavia.
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What im seriously considering too is a Laboga Mr. Hector. The Price is within my budget. I've tried one too and i was stunned! The only concern i have is the lack of a presence knob.
Opinions?
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DAR Amps Forza or FBM-100! :)
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DAR Amps Forza or FBM-100! :)
If i just had the money dude!
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What im seriously considering too is a Laboga Mr. Hector. The Price is within my budget. I've tried one too and i was stunned! The only concern i have is the lack of a presence knob.
Opinions?
I had Mr.Hector about 2 years...Good amp with earth shaking bottom end..Exellent for thrash metal pm licks think Anihillator,Slayer....I donīt recomend it for 7string guitar or just guitars tuned lower than C...Before I had Mesa DR 3ch and after Hector I went again with Mesa DR but older 2ch...Now I use Krank Rev+ and rack Engls and for stuff I play /Exodus,Cataract,Hatebreed,Slayer/ I couldnīt find better choice...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LH4a6BLrx4&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LH4a6BLrx4&feature=channel_video_title)
<3
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So. to give you the idea of what i play. Which is not Djent or power metal :P I will post a few songs.
I Want this kind of tone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6MBV-hSRnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6MBV-hSRnU)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LH4a6BLrx4&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LH4a6BLrx4&feature=channel_video_title)
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You can give him old tube radio he will make it sounds like mesa you know...But it was just my opinion....
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I like grindcore.
My favourites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDuZ0H3PFEw
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So. to give you the idea of what i play. Which is not Djent or power metal :P I will post a few songs.
I Want this kind of tone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6MBV-hSRnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6MBV-hSRnU)
It sounds Peavey or Mesa to me...But you know you can use clean ch of any amp and boost it with any distortion to get proper grind/death tone
edited:When I played in one grind/crust/core band many years ago a used Mesa dual recto on red ch with lower gain boosted by boss metal zone with gain at 0 and volume max think Nasum,Cannibal Corpse....I also used HM-2 pedal to get that sweet /bloodbath,entombed/ Swedish tone...
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Dual Recto for that tone, definitely.
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So.. i found a ENGL Fireball 100 for a steal.. i think i end up with that :)
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So.. i found a ENGL Fireball 100 for a steal.. i think i end up with that :)
For your music style you canīt beat it....I had 60W version which is not bad but the newer 100W itīs quite better...Pure sickness.....
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Jeff Loomis seems to get a semi-usable tone out of one. :wink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt_1LyH9pXM
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his technique is also godly. he can make anything sound godlike!. Theres a video where he plays a battery cube and makes it sound convincing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMZI9MgfnVA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMZI9MgfnVA)
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I feel raped by destiny.. My hate For engl powerball's matches Roo's hate for tele's and mashed potatoes combined.
BUT i tried the Engl Powerball II with Loomer today and we speak in one voice when we say that the ENGL POWERBALL II is the best Amplifier ever made!!!!!.
So i had one put aside for me :)
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Well, yeah. They sure did get it right with that one, eh? What'll be next? EMG Pickups sound good?
(http://www.emgpickups.com/content/productimages/JH-Set.jpg)
Oh...
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I feel raped by destiny.. My hate For engl powerball's matches Roo's hate for tele's and mashed potatoes combined.
BUT i tried the Engl Powerball II with Loomer today and we speak in one voice when we say that the ENGL POWERBALL II is the best Amplifier ever made!!!!!.
So i had one put aside for me :)
Pics of all the PCBs, both sides and from every possible angle or it didn't happen. :D
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you want to copy one eh? :D
Well i got the money for it in january, i'll make loomer drop by with a camera for your interests :)
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